Culturally Inappropriate with A.C. Lee

Two Fed-Up Falcons Fans Break Down a Win, a QB Debate, and a League Full of Drama

A.C. Lee

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A rivalry week special with a side of truth serum. We kick off with a cathartic look at the Falcons’ win over the Saints—what worked, what’s noise, and why a clean under-center plan gave Kirk Cousins the platform he needed. Play-action clicked, the pass rush finally felt like Sacklanta, and yet we keep the receipts on what still holds this team back. We dig into identity, the OC seat, and how leadership decisions ripple louder than any one Sunday.

Then we zoom in on the quarterback conversation fans can’t stop having: Cousins vs Penix today, development vs urgency, and how scheme either limits or unlocks a roster. From there, the spotlight shifts to Shador’s debut. We separate the stat line from the storyline, unpack the politics of quarterbacking—how front offices, media, and owners weigh personality—and why reps, fit, and design matter more than headlines. You’ll hear a thoughtful take on swagger, optics, and the gap between talent and trust.

We don’t stop at Sundays. The Raiders’ internal noise, Brady-adjacent influence, and the high-stakes dance inside a fragile franchise underline how power structures shape results. Rivalry Week gets the full treatment—UGA–Tech angles, playoff levers, coaching carousel timing—and yes, we bring receipts for a loaded CFB and NFL betting card. Fantasy playoff seeding gets spicy, “collusion” jokes fly, and we wrap with a grounded conversation on accountability after a campus incident—because choices on and off the field define the story you carry.

If you’re here for sharp football talk with zero fluff, you’ll feel at home. Tap play, argue with us in the comments, and tell a friend. And if you’re rocking with the show, hit follow, drop a review, and share your lock of the week—we’ll read the best ones on air next time.

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SPEAKER_04:

Hi, Parley Pete.

SPEAKER_05:

That's Rich McKay to you. The parody account. Yeah, basically. That's that's kind of what we're doing right this second.

SPEAKER_04:

Hey, as a disclaimer, this is not Rich McKay. This is a podcast of two Falcons fans who are fed up. And uh we wanted Rich to be here, a fake Rich, you know, full Rich.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, he really runs this account. He really runs this podcast if you you let anyone else uh know about it. I mean, he drives the first hour of content every week. He does, and guess what? Hold on. While we're talking, only because I'm I've I've I think I have a breakthrough on my end, so I think everybody'll get to see me at not rich. But hold on, I'm literally putting it together. But how are we doing today, Lee? Ah man, not too bad. Put in a hard day's work. I got a funny work story for you. You're working man these days. You're you're as blue-collar as it gets.

SPEAKER_04:

But let me tell you, I have to stretch and rub my feet every night. Uh, because uh yeah, nah, throwing them boxes takes a toll on you.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, let me tell you, it's an honest day is living, and at the end of the day, it's better it's better to be doing that than nothing.

SPEAKER_04:

Absolutely. So I'm doing my job today talking to this young lady across from me. You know, she's she seemed reserved, and you know, it wasn't like flirty talk or anything. It was just, hey, how you doing? You know, try I mean, I gotta look at you for the next three and a half hours. Right. I I don't want to sit here in si in silence. So this other broad comes over there, she was like, Don't you date so-and-so-and-so?

SPEAKER_03:

Uh she was like, Yeah, man, I saw him over there with the uh with his palate jack talking to so and so and so. She has on this and that, and he was smiling, and you know, he don't never smile.

SPEAKER_06:

That sounds like well, that sounds like some workplace, like purposefully done drama. She sounds like the one that was fucking more than anything.

SPEAKER_04:

Just to see what the reaction was like, right, and so the girl gets mad, and mind you, uh, neither one of them uh are 25.

SPEAKER_06:

Okay. Are they obviously they're over 18, but like do you think that they're above 21? In that actually, in a weird way, it matters a little.

SPEAKER_04:

One the one who came with the story was I think 22, and the one who was the girlfriend is 20.

SPEAKER_05:

Okay.

SPEAKER_04:

So it's me and a an older lady there. And we're like, hey man, don't man, it's bro, it's work. It ain't nothing. She may have stopped and was talking to him, and she may have just said something funny, and he was laughing. Like, people be talking. It it's it's nothing. Like, it's right at work, chilling. And she was like, and and then the girl, the messy girl was like, Well, you know how you know how they be, they don't want you talking to no nigga. Right. My my nigga can't talk to no girl at work. And I'm like, Don't y'all know people go to work and flirt? Hey, you have your office girlfriend and stuff, like you flirt, uh uh it ain't nothing. And then you go home to the person you're with. It's very common in the in the workplace. Oh, you just trying to take up for him because you a nigga. I'm like, well, yes, but two, no, I'm an adult and I've lived so I understand that you know, some of the like, let's not trip about this. It's not a big deal.

SPEAKER_11:

You're muted. I'll tell you this guy. You're muted. Yeah, you're on mute, man.

SPEAKER_06:

All right, we're good to go.

SPEAKER_04:

All right, yeah. So, anyways, we finally got the people that are viewing this live early.

SPEAKER_06:

This is a lot of fucked up shit going on on my end.

SPEAKER_04:

That's what she said.

SPEAKER_06:

They say that all the time.

SPEAKER_04:

No, they don't. That's because that's count accountability.

SPEAKER_06:

You know what? There's a video I'm gonna send you that we didn't talk about in pre-production. Uh, it's uh something Davis. He's a comedian. Ha ha Davis. Nah, it's it's not ha ha davis. That I forgot the nigga's name. I liked it on Twitter. But he and I'm not gonna go into great detail, but basically he breaks down just how marriage and stuff, like not just marriage, but just in general, just the life of a nigga and how like this stuff works. And it's like, you know, he's not lying. Like, he's not lying.

SPEAKER_04:

He was on stage, yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

But it's not ha ha davis, though.

SPEAKER_04:

No, no, no, no, no, I know. I I I think I think I saw it too. Uh, I got a question.

SPEAKER_06:

That's a laughing factor.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I yeah, I had it on my story this week.

SPEAKER_06:

Story maybe and maybe I did get it from you. It wasn't ha Davis, but his last name.

SPEAKER_04:

No, it wasn't. Oh yeah, yeah, I know who you're talking about. I don't I don't know his name.

SPEAKER_06:

He's telling the fucking truth, though, brother. Oh, god you yeah, yeah, he gets it. He's somebody that gets it.

SPEAKER_04:

Hey, so today, another quick work story, right? Okay, you know, he whose name we shall not say, or his company. Uh you know, open open policy allows any and everyone to to to to work there, right? Equal opportunity employer, as every company should be.

SPEAKER_06:

As everybody should be, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, so we got a little stud bud in there, you know.

SPEAKER_06:

Okay.

SPEAKER_04:

And uh it appears that she's arguing with her her girl, her wife, whatever.

SPEAKER_06:

So they work together.

SPEAKER_04:

No, she has an air, she has an air, she has an airpod. She has an airpod in. So she's always yeah, and like where our line like where we're working at, what no bosses over there.

SPEAKER_05:

Okay.

SPEAKER_04:

And it's the end of the news. Yeah. So they arguing and and doing all this fussing and and back and forth, and I was like, who actually takes accountability in lesbian con uh relationships?

SPEAKER_06:

I don't know.

SPEAKER_04:

I mean, especially if it's a stud and not a a a trans, you know what I mean? Trans man.

SPEAKER_06:

I don't know. I don't, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04:

Like who who's like the the person in the couple, like who doesn't speak what they're upset about because they're just trying to keep the peace. Or that just them two just my women's tuition just made me want to come talk to you about this today.

SPEAKER_06:

I would say I mean, you don't know. I guess it depends on the personalities of the studs. Now, normally though, most studs, there are studs that were are with studs, which as we see with the stud buds, as we see with I don't date each other. They don't?

SPEAKER_04:

No, I think they're just I think they're just friends.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, let's look at Alyssa Thomas and Head Dyke, and um I know that's me saying this, it sounds so derogatory. Got our and I actually I didn't mean to say that. HD. Let me clarify my comments. It's Thanksgiving. Give me a break.

SPEAKER_04:

Um, no what H D means. We can't even use it anymore.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, I know. It's okay. No, it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_04:

Hey, you know what? Change it. PD, touchdown.

SPEAKER_06:

Yep, touchdown, and um Alyssa Bonner. There you go. They are they're married and they're on the same team. Think of that. She forced her way out of Indiana to get back there because they were playing together in Connecticut, but nonetheless, can you hear that by the way?

SPEAKER_09:

Yeah, yeah, you got a notification.

SPEAKER_06:

It's all the it's all this stuff. My bad. For everybody here here, I am really fucking up here early. But yeah, I we'll live, we'll live. Jesus Christ. Hold on. They press continue on it that way, because every time I press close, it just is doing it. Okay, but point being they play together, so I didn't know. I didn't know that they weren't together, so they just do a podcast together, and then like you know, that's just the way that they work, I guess. They work, they're friends. Yes, yes, it'd be like we were both gay. God damn it, it'd be like let's not even imagine that. Well, we're not, but that's the point. That's how we could play with it because we're not, but like the thing is, if we were gay, we've got a podcast together, we're friends. Obviously, we're not lovers because we're not gay, but like at the city will we be the bottom buds or the bottom boys, or be the top dogs. I don't know what we would be, Lee. I'm not about to think about it because we're not that, but like, but what I will think about is I think top dogs is a good one, dogs on top, yeah. Dog dogs on top, but then we'd almost have to kind of be we don't have to be a Georgia podcast. We are kind of a Georgia. We're not when I say Georgia, I don't I mean like explicitly Georgia, yeah. You don't have to be explicitly UGA, but we're we do two gay guys talking Georgia, yeah. And I'm sure that we'll get to a little bit later here. Uh a little bit of high school football. I know that I didn't we didn't put this in the pre-production, but I know you know what happened out there in Gainesville. Um, because that's been a big talking point for GHSA. No, I don't know. Oh, well, we'll get to it. I'll surprise it at the end. Um, that's what she said. Anywho, my point is this stud buds, I didn't know that they weren't married. Continue on with your point.

SPEAKER_04:

Oh, I was just making a joke. Because, you know, we're uh two men on a podcast, so we have to be misogynist, right?

SPEAKER_06:

Somebody said, Is that P. Diddy here in the comments on YouTube? And it's so funny because I actually used to get called P. Diddy in high school. I a lot of people call me Pie, but P. Diddy. No, seriously, it was the nickname.

SPEAKER_04:

No, no, no, I can see it because you're a pierce, yeah. P. Diddy, it was funny.

SPEAKER_06:

But I'm thinking, I'm like, well, it's nobody that I went to high school with, there's no way.

SPEAKER_04:

But anywho, were you throwing Diddy parties?

SPEAKER_06:

I threw one, but it wasn't, and it was actually down here because again, I'm shooting in my dad's basement now because it made more sense to shoot here as opposed to going back to my house. So I'm shooting here. Wow, we just jumped up in a lot of viewership here as well. I don't know if you can see that, but nonetheless, um, yeah, yeah. So I think we should hop into Falcons first because right now we are um we are all here to do what hey man, hey, winning week, falcons first, winning week, man. It's been what almost a month, it's been over a month. Correct?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I I mean I I don't even early October.

SPEAKER_06:

When was that Bill's game?

SPEAKER_04:

Early October, uh, yeah, before homecoming.

SPEAKER_06:

So there you go. I mean, that says enough. It's literally will be December uh on Monday.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

So I enough said. Um when we spoke about this a little earlier, which hey, and I haven't got to publicly apologize or tell you when you call you called me on Sunday. So I was with Jude. No, no, no, no. What it was was that we were literally, so I was with him at McCrae's. We went to McCrae's, and like I was in the middle, there was a it was a I was talking to somebody at our table who was a part of the Julian Turner side of the party. We were talking, I said, here, I'm gonna call him back. Because we were basically trying to break this stuff down, and bro, it just went from one thing to another because Mariana was with me too. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_04:

I here, so here's what happened. I called you right as like halftime hit.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

And I did not know I truly meant to call you back. Yeah, I know. I just I didn't know you were with Julian yet, but I I I saw it shortly thereafter, just story scrolling. But I also knew that I was like, oh, he started talking, then halftime was over, then niggas forget, bro. Now it's three hours later.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, we what it was it's just we were talking, and then from there, I I meant to call back, but then the food came. Like, it was just like a lot of stuff that like staggered. So I publicly apologize because seriously, I did mean to, but like uh thank you. No, I just didn't want you to think I was ignoring you, like you know, like I wouldn't I know that you don't feel I know that you know it'd be like if I call you and then you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_04:

Like so I'm not you know I'm not your I'm not your girl, you know. I don't trust if you don't answer my call.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, but but but but I don't have a girl, and more importantly, I value our friendship that much. So I just meant to, you know, I appreciate that, yeah.

SPEAKER_12:

So but yeah, yeah, yeah, we beat the Saints.

SPEAKER_06:

Whoop-dee-doo. What is it? What does it all mean, Basil? I mean, like my thing is seven, yeah. I don't want to, I don't want to uh overreact to beating a bad team with a rookie quarterback in the third year that nobody expected to be good to begin with. So that that's kind of like just my feeling from it. I'm not mad at the execution. They scored 10 points and one of them came on a pick six. So it's like they didn't really do anything. We held them two different times on uh fourth down. They did miss two field goals, which is why Justin Tucker got a trial this week. Like, so like these are things that everybody we can't we gotta hold our horses. If we beat the Saints again, if we beat the Saints 31-10 on Sunday, I still am not no, I'll wait until we win that game, and then let's say we beat Seattle the next week and then we're 500, or we're we're a game below 500 because it's the the Panthers are gonna lose this week, and the Bucs could lose if Baker doesn't play, then I'll talk. Then we can have some let's not put that in the atmosphere.

SPEAKER_04:

Baker's playing. Yeah, I bet you would like that, wouldn't you?

SPEAKER_06:

I mean, I would like from the You got a number one seed at stake that only I can take. You lose the truth. If if you lose and I win, I'm gonna be the number one seed.

SPEAKER_04:

I'm well aware, and then I go from uh you'll be the three, it'll depend on what happens, and I won't have a buy.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, Gambles is playing Nico, so that will dictate that side of get back to the Falcons.

SPEAKER_04:

Let's get back to the Falcons.

SPEAKER_06:

We're gonna get into fancy too, because it actually this is an important week to talk about it. It is, it is, and you were talking about that shit yesterday, so it was just a a comment, it was a throwaway comment. No, it wasn't. I caught it, so you're like, I'm in first place anyway. This is like okay, nigga. Yeah, Eric Boyd. Hold on. No, we're gonna pause Falconster. Eric Boyd, you play Boyd this week, yeah. So this is because me and Justin have already talked about it. Justice plays JP. If Justice beats JP, justice is gonna be the last. Because pretty much Matt and Gambles, even though they're not officially clinched, they're in. Because the only reason they're not even 100% in is because of points, like tiebreakers. They're in. It would take a like somebody has to score like 200 points for them to get out. They're in. Matt's in the playoffs. Yeah, Matt's in. But if Justice beats JP, it'll be justice that gets the last spot, which means the if you lose and I win, you're gonna play justice, is what that means. If if justice loses, you play justice, he wins, he needs he needs boyd to lose. Because boyd is that like boyd has like 40 points on JP. So he JP would have to not only beat Justice, but outscore Boyd by 40 in a tiebreaker, or Boyd has to lose. Which but I'm saying if Boyd wins and justice wins, justice has like a 40-point advantage on Boyd. So it's basically he's both we're both me and JP are rooting for Boyd against you for different reasons. He needs it because even if even if JP beats Justice, Boyd has to lose to you. No, so he's rooting for you, but Boyd is rooting for justice, and I am rooting for Boyd.

SPEAKER_04:

I mean, but what you're rooting for, selfish, you're in the playoffs.

SPEAKER_06:

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'd like to have a bye. And that would mean technically I have the best record because you're either gonna be the one seed or the three seed. We're pretty much there at that point. We're gonna it's gonna either be either I'm the one or the like that's what we're fighting for this week. But it's great because we have a podcast together, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

But also, isn't this how the league isn't this how the league should be based on who understands the game?

SPEAKER_06:

Understands the game and understands everything, even about fantasy football, besides Matt Flowers. But from a knowledge standpoint, yes, yeah. But Nico's in, he's a Raiders fan. Not that look, all of our teams are bad, except Josh, even though they're a bad eight and three football team. That's a bad eight and three, and we'll get to them once we recap. But that's a bad eight and three football team, right? But but none of our team, JP, everybody, they're they're commanders fans, like Jew is a Steelers fan, like everybody's saying none of our teams are dogs, nobody's a ramp. I guess gambles is a Patriots fan, but but nobody thinks that the Patriots can win the Super Bowl.

SPEAKER_04:

And does anybody respect Gamble? I don't say respect.

SPEAKER_06:

I respect Gambles, obviously, but like yeah, yeah, godly.

SPEAKER_04:

I have the yeah, utmost respect for him. But who's going for to gambles for the sports takes?

SPEAKER_06:

Nobody, yeah, nobody, nobody, nobody's calling him on um Sunday morning and saying, What are your bets? You know, like Lee, I get calls every Sunday.

SPEAKER_04:

I I've been with you on many Sundays.

SPEAKER_06:

Whether it's from Julian Turner, it doesn't even matter if it's Jew, it's other people. I man, a lot of people hit me up about this stuff.

SPEAKER_04:

I've been with you on Sundays, yeah. You know, Gambles is a black Boston sports fan.

SPEAKER_06:

That isn't from Boston, yeah. He's from Pensacola, Florida. You would think he'd be a Buccaneers fan, right? But like, or even a Saint. I mean, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04:

Or even an Eagles fan like Josh Holsey.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, I know Josh is from Pensacola technically, but like Josh to me, because he grew up in Tennessee, he he went to high school in Tennessee. I would think Titans. I know he liked Steve McNair, but it's like why Donovan McNabb, why Buck Holse guys?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, like who's his baseball team?

SPEAKER_06:

He didn't have one. You know, Josh doesn't watch baseball. He'll probably be a Rockies fan or a Padres fan now, but like he's not a fan of either of those teams.

SPEAKER_04:

Does Josh Holsey wear fitted hat?

SPEAKER_06:

I've never seen him wear one. No, he doesn't really wear hats. I've seen him in a polo hat before. Have I? I've never seen Josh in a hat look. I mean, yeah, maybe a polo, but like yeah, he's not a hat. The more and more I think, see, I'm a hat guy. Like, I you every time you see me, I probably have a hat on. And I have great hair too, but like I just don't hair, dude. No, I just like to wear, I just like wearing hats. Like, I'm a hat guy.

SPEAKER_04:

You look like a sleaze ball in those glasses.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, I've worn them before. This isn't my first time.

SPEAKER_04:

We could I I like them. They look like they should be transition frames, but they're not, and you know, any nigga with transition frames on inside is just not to be trusted.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, it's Thanksgiving, I've been drinking, so I'd love to wear some shades for this type of an occasion, and maybe I'm a little helpful to the viewers.

SPEAKER_04:

I don't know, but let's let's get back to something that'll make you drink those Atlanta Falcons. So Kirk Cousins with a full week of preparation, looked like a professional quarterback. Uh the offense, we we ran the ball, we got under center. Uh, we play action from under center. Uh, we were really good in the play action from under center. Uh was Kirk's injury last did Kirk's injury last year speed up the Michael Penix timeline. And because he showed flashes last year and the fan base was so out on Kirk that Kirk didn't even have a shot to beat him for the job this year when I'm pretty sure I said it on here. Kirk Cousins is probably the better quarterback on the roster.

SPEAKER_06:

Uh Lee, and this is where the argument comes in, right? I asked the question. I didn't make it. I didn't make it, but this is where it comes in. We signed Kirk for a reason. Okay, we drafted Penix for a deeper reason, and the idea, because this is at least when it happened, what I thought was that Kirk Cousins, that's why he got the two years heavily at three guaranteed, but two where a majority of the money was there. But they also planned for the worst in that case scenario, kind of, because they can cut bait after this year, but we wanted Kirk Cousins to be the quarterback for two years. I think that that's what the plan was. The plan was always for him to be here for two, and that it be more of a Jordan Love thing, where and Jordan Love sat for three years, yeah, but like, and so did Aaron Rodgers. Like, so like I think that that was what we wanted. It didn't work that way because of Kirk's injury that he didn't want to admit, nor did Raheem or anyone on the medical team, because everybody acted like he wasn't hurt. We visibly could see that he was hurt, and I think coming off that bye when we were six and five against uh the Chargers was the game, if there was any, to pull the plug then. Yeah, but that's not what happened, and that's okay, like everything happens for a reason.

SPEAKER_04:

So, do you think Kirk is better than Penix today?

SPEAKER_06:

I disagree. No, I I'm asking, I'm not making a statement. No, I do I no, I don't because my reason is this I think we need to see more of Kirk Cousins now. That will determine it. If Kirk Cousins goes, because remember, Kirk did start against the Dolphins at home. A team that would literally, if they won the game, Coach gets fired. I promise you that McDaniels gets fired if they lose that game. They didn't, they won, and now they won like three of their last four. So that changed the trajectory of even a franchise on the other side that has nothing to do with us. I think that with Penix, Penix was playing great in the Carolina game. And then even when Cousins came in, we were up two touchdowns and we lost. So it's like we beat a Saints team that's not good, and that's why I call it overreaction Monday. It is overreaction Monday. I don't think that I'm not saying that Kirk Cousins didn't play well, and I'm not saying that offensively the game plan wasn't solid. What I'm saying is this if you look at everything, the defense balled out, they had another game, which hey, week two after the Vikings game, by the way. We said Sack Lena, yeah. Nigga, are we not on spot on with that right today? Today, does that is that not a fucking are we not like profits at this point with that?

SPEAKER_04:

Well, we got like five sacks.

SPEAKER_06:

Which we'll get to that when we recap real quick.

SPEAKER_04:

But like Josh Holty, we get some things right over here, buddy.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, but but I think justice was one of the people that didn't agree with it, and now this is just inner people, so I can't speak about anyone else because maybe our footprint's not big enough for everybody to hear our takes, but there were people that did agree disagree with uh what it is that we were saying, and I was like, Are we sack language? Like, literally, we named one of the podcasts that because it's like, Are we sack language? And I think that uh doubled on Tondra. Man, we are though.

SPEAKER_04:

I guess and the team's a sack of shit.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, triple then because Atlanta niggas get sacks, they got sacks. Oh, yeah, oh yeah, I gotta say now, and they go and they like and they like to go to sack.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, that might be quite true.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, if you want to take it that far, but yeah, man, we might be we might be using these mics for the wrong thing. We might need to start spitting.

SPEAKER_06:

Boy, that's a that's a double at that point, Lee. I I'm not gonna get too far into that, but what I will say is this new Kung Fu Kenny, yeah. I was gonna say, where's the Kung Fu Kenny drop? Yeah, yeah, that was crazy. But uh, but what I will say is this they look good. Kirk Cousins certainly on that deep ball to the moon ball. It was great, man. It was great, it was great. I think that um it was great momentum to go into a game against a team that you should beat again. And the Falcons were underdogs uh in that Saints game, and everybody did really pick the Saints. I was on board with it, I didn't bet it, but like I was on board with it.

SPEAKER_04:

I started their defense in one of my other leagues, the Saints, yeah. It's tough, but but you know, but that goes to show how fed up Nick.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, like you're fed up, you're fed up with it.

SPEAKER_04:

Hey, and parlay Pete, no disrespect, but nothing that you said, nothing that I've said matters. If come April, that guy who started on this podcast is still employed by this team we're talking about. Well, in that debate anything short of a Super Bowl we're not getting a Super Bowl. Hear me out. Anything short of a Super Bowl, if that guy's back, nothing matters. You know, and and a Super Bowl may retire his ass. But we won't get one because he's here.

SPEAKER_06:

Now, and and and I think that that's our again, that's why we started off this podcast with that photo, why you chose that photo. At the end of the day, what would you say hinders this team more than anything? Because if anyone is if we're riding a high by beating the Saints, what's hinders the team then? Because is it Michael Penix? A lot of people could say, well, Michael Penix, is he not comfortable under center? Because Kirk Cousins did come from under center. That touchdown to Mooney. Yeah, it was everything that we've been wanting, but it's the same thing with Penix. The idea was that well, play action pass works for both of these guys, one way or another.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, but the pistol doesn't.

SPEAKER_06:

So then why are we running the pistol? Which I yes, we know that Zach Zach Robinson will not Lee. I am here today. We will never do this podcast again if Zach Robinson is the offensive coordinator next week. I'm willing to make that proclamation. And all right, tell you, not never again. But if he's the OC next year, then brother, you got to find a new partner or you got to make this the solo show. Because I'm willing to lay that on the line because I know that it's not gonna happen. You know what I'm saying? He won't be here. I don't think if we went out, I don't even think he was gonna be here. Because Oklahoma State did hire their coach. Yeah, he's really there now.

SPEAKER_04:

He's gonna need an OC though.

SPEAKER_06:

And I think that he'll be waiting in the wings for if he gets fired. But like we will, I will not be on this show next year if he's here, and we can play it back, and maybe I'll take it back. I highly doubt I will, but like then we just won't do the show because what if we just get rid of the segment? Yeah, you know, we could do that too, and just not talk Falcons ball ever. Yeah, no, if if yeah, like you'll have like that shit in the background, you'll be downtown, like you'll like nigga. I'll be wearing a Falcons hat. I mean, there'll be a lot of Falcon shit around. They'll be like, Man, you guys never want to talk about the Falcons with your fans, and I'll be like, Yep. Oh we won't, I'll tell you what, I'll change it because yeah, I don't want to say we won't do this. I don't think it's gonna happen one way or another.

SPEAKER_04:

I think they he's hey, but I say I say I say what we can do is Falcons' first segment does uh goes away if he comes back, and the Falcons will only be mentioned if like it's a real storyline, not a we want to talk about them.

SPEAKER_06:

It'll be good uh uh content as well. Because I mean, yeah, for one the people on Twitter when they're like, I won't tweet again until such and such does this, and then there's I don't even know where that video comes from, but it's a guy that's like sleep, and then and then then the music plays ready or not. Here I come, and he's like breathing like in his bed. They're like, I won't tweet again until Russell Westbrook gets a triple double, like it'll be like people. I don't know how often you're on Twitter, but that's how they do it.

SPEAKER_04:

I think they call it X now.

SPEAKER_06:

Okay, well, I still call it Twitter.

SPEAKER_04:

Um yeah, I we're done with the Falcons.

SPEAKER_06:

No, no, no, no, no. I did want to say one more thing about the Falcons. I'm glad that they beat the Saints because you know, a one Courtney George who should have been on this show last week, she's been a past guest. Uh, some of you may know her. I will not say for why you know her, but it's not porn.

SPEAKER_04:

It isn't porn, but well, no, because you just like left.

SPEAKER_06:

She texted like the morning of slash day before, and she sent me a video of like Matt Ryan getting like stiff arm. You remember that intercept? It was like Thanksgiving or something, yeah. Which Thanksgiving is tomorrow, and I know we'll get to what we're thankful for later on in the show, but like uh she sent it to me, and I'm like, okay, and then I sent her. I have a video on my page that I've had for years. I sent that to her because she was with me at a game in the suite, and she got to it was like a season opener, she got to uh you know, battery had her up in the suite, huh? Yeah, well it was her, and then in the video is Danica as well. Danica's uh one of Laris's good friends, she's from New Orleans since I was a kid. She's a huge Saint fan, she loves to talk shit to me too.

SPEAKER_04:

But like say, hey, yeah, you just come on up to the suite, no biggie.

SPEAKER_06:

She did, she did, but that's why I have such a good relationship with her mother as well. You know, let me tell you, there's only one thing that holds me back from marrying a Courtney George, and it's not her even being a Saints. And I'll leave it at that. Because we actually have a very good chemistry together, but I just it's it's okay. Like, I'm better off friends with her, anyways, but like, you know, I like our friends more.

SPEAKER_04:

I could have said something so funny.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, you should know exactly why. Why I said what I just said.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I know. Anywho, something about those damn brothers.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, it's not a blood brother.

SPEAKER_04:

No, no, uh, you know, it's just that whole, you know, those Eskimo things, you know, those brothers.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's cold, bro. It's cold.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, no, I wasn't suggesting anything like anything.

SPEAKER_06:

But I'm just saying, the Eskimos cold, it's cold.

SPEAKER_04:

But nah, shout out to her friends.

SPEAKER_06:

I I I can I can't, they're very attractive women.

SPEAKER_04:

I can second that one. They're very attractive women, but um, um, man, let's get to the week, and I want to open it up with you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_06:

Okay, hold on. You see him? Were there a specific one that you did want to start with? Because here I've got it pulled up now. I'm looking at it.

SPEAKER_10:

Yeah, you see him.

SPEAKER_06:

See who you see him. Oh, Shador. Yeah, I tell you what. Now, here's the thing, yeah. Cause yeah, actually, he's a perfect game to start with. It was a meaningless game in terms of a betting slate for some, and then just overall, it's too bad. It's two teams that aren't going to playoffs, so nobody really cares. But it was Shador's debut, something that I think that as a starter, we were all waiting to see. And he didn't disappoint at the end of the day. People can hate as much as they want. He's 11 to 20. I know he threw for 200 plus. He had a touchdown, he didn't have any turnovers. And my favorite part, well, no sacks either. No, he had one. Oh, one, sorry, yeah, one, but just one for three yards. Now, my favorite part about it was you sending that video yesterday with the QBR thing. Now, I've never taken QBR seriously because it was a stat that was come. I didn't realize ESPN, but like I remember when ESPN made it. I thought it was an official NFL stat.

SPEAKER_04:

They made it an official stat because they made it and they made the people on the network use it, and now those people have left ESPN and gone in other places, and QBR is just a part of what they use, and they're all respectable people. So if they're using it, you know, it's Cal Hurts, Kip Bayless, uh uh Rocillo, Simmons, all these people are referencing QBR. Oh, well, this is some good shit. So then it becomes something that people use, right? It's supposed to be better than quarterback rating or passer rating, excuse me.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, and so I think that uh overall, good for you, bud. You know what I mean? I it it's one of those things where I agree that it's it nobody should use that as a reference point for betting for how they view a quarterback or anything, because again, he brought up DTR. Well, I thought the DTR thing was the most eye-opening, obviously, because we've watched we watched him play too. He's garbage. For one, they won the game, they won the game comfortably. It wasn't like a game-winning field goal game either. Like that, I mean, and granted, they had 10 seconds, like the defense was great because the Browns have a good defense, but that doesn't shouldn't shit on Shador. Shador, I didn't watch the entire game, but I did I it was on I was watching the Falcon Saints, but like it was on, and I was obviously watching it in McCray's, like, so this is what I think, and I loved it because he kept throwing when he did get those deep balls, it like set up Jutkins to get the touchdowns, which is you know, it helps me in fantasy, which we'll get to that once we um probably finish up the recap.

SPEAKER_04:

So, do you think Stefanski should have already, you know, pulled the score?

SPEAKER_06:

Well, this was the issue. They acted like they wanted to compete by saying Joe Flacco is the quarterback for six or seven weeks, and the reality was was that even with Joe Flacco, they were never gonna compete, even with that defense, they just weren't Flacco and what he did when they went to the playoffs, he took over an offense and they won and they got to the playoffs.

SPEAKER_04:

They won 11 games that year, but like yeah, but no, they weren't they weren't trying to compete with Flacco and he was like five and two. Yeah, but but yeah, but no, no, no. They knew that neither one of them was ready. They didn't want to just throw him out there, break their confidence.

SPEAKER_06:

Don't don't don't start him as long as you did, is my thought.

SPEAKER_04:

No, hold on, but hold on, but then they let Flacco start. Flacco got got to go through camp with them. He already knew the offense, so they can watch the offense in camp be ran properly. Because if Flacco's not there, they're not watching the offense being ran right by somebody who knows it.

SPEAKER_06:

But but this is the issue. If he knew it already, let's at least get them reps. Why weren't they getting reps? Because that was the biggest talking point of Shador, right? What he said was Hold on, I got it.

SPEAKER_04:

I got it, I got it right here.

SPEAKER_06:

Go ahead, play it real quick.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh one week of practice, you know what I mean? Just one week of practice. So imagine you know what a full offseason looked like, it get dangerous, but it's just a one week of practice, so I'm just truly thankful, you know, that everything happens. Uh for one week, he should be able to do it.

SPEAKER_06:

It should have been a quarterback competition, Lee. Anyways, like, no offense to Flacco. What was their if if every team, every team's goal is not to win the Super Bowl, and I think that everybody needs to realize that too. That that like the Saints did not come into training camp saying we're gonna win the Super Bowl. No, they said it, but they didn't mean it. So with the Browns, it's the same thing. Everybody knew that they weren't winning the Super Bowl with Joe Flacco at 39, 40 years old. Like, so why not let these guys at least get both of them? I'm not just because of the thing, like, why not they both get reps?

SPEAKER_04:

Because they're they're not, they probably weren't ready.

SPEAKER_06:

Like, hey, we're if they were that raw, then for one, shador getting shador in the fifth is one thing, but with Dylan Gabriel in the third, you said this on uh the village vets yesterday. Why not use that capital for somebody that potentially is a starter, like we did, right? With Watts, like yeah, you get started like because they could have drafted Watts. Like, I'm pretty sure that that pick for Dylan Gabriel was before ours, considering we got it from the Rams. So that would mean that they drafted him over Watts. I don't know what their safety shit looks like, but he would have added to a dominant defense with that pass rush and and everything that they have. Why not just add a start or just an offensive start? They don't have no receivers, it appears to me.

SPEAKER_09:

So why not draft Isaiah?

SPEAKER_06:

I mean, they did get Isaiah Bond later, but why not draft another a receiver? I can't think of just a receiver off the top.

SPEAKER_04:

But just in the third round, like if you're an SEC football fan, you still watch the third round.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, because N'Kobe Dean, like the fucking in college football that year went to the Eagles in the third round.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah. We drafted linebacker that round too before them.

SPEAKER_06:

But uh, you know, we did, we did, and he's been injured, but he was also the but but but yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

But but let's not go down that rabbit hole.

SPEAKER_06:

But point being finished with the Falcons.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, yeah, but uh back to Shador. I I didn't like the postgame. He was niggerish, and I think part of why he fell in the draft, why maybe he didn't beat out uh Dylan Gabriel, why he's covered the way in a certain way that he's covered, and his his fanboys. I I get it. Me and Parlay Pete don't have a problem with the way that Shadur acts as human beings. He's normal. It's normal to us, but as observers of football media, what uh front office people, former front office, what coaches, former coaches say, we go, that does not work for quarterback. They don't like that at quarterback. So you have to be Jamarcus Russell, Cam Newton. You have to be head and shoulders above everybody, that it's undeniable for you to get the chance. When you are in a bad quarterback draft and nothing that you do is uh markedly better than anybody except for maybe your your instinct and your ability, like your deep ball, maybe pedigree. Yeah, and and I was gonna say your pedigree, the most important thing, but nothing that's just so much better, like you didn't have the best arm. You know, you're not six five. You know, so sometimes it goes back to the Colin Kaepernick shit, you know what I mean? If you want these people's money you have to conduct yourself in the way that in a way that they expect you to. And if not, uh you will be treated as such. And we're not I'm not saying it's to justify their treatment. But I can also say but but I also say that what they're asking for isn't inhumane, and we all have biases, both implicit and like fucking just overt biases, you know what I mean? And if you play into my negative biases, I'm probably not gonna fuck with you. Like let's just make this a human thing. Like we know kids in school who weren't dumb, but the teachers didn't like them, so they got in trouble a lot.

SPEAKER_06:

Or they were bad kids, but they were smart in a certain type of way.

SPEAKER_04:

Exactly. And there were some good kids, really good kids, dumb as a rock, but the teacher's gonna help them and make sure every dog, personalities just are personalities. Some of my best Marines, I fucking hated them.

SPEAKER_09:

Really?

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, I mean, you can be good at your job, but I can still not like you. You can still be a dick, or our personalities just don't mesh. And some of my favorite Marines sucked. Didn't mean we wasn't cool. So, like, personalities can matter in these things, they shouldn't. And my feelings for people did not affect how I evaluated them as a supervisor. Because the motherfuckers that I liked it sucked. Uh well, it showed.

SPEAKER_06:

But see, you were biased.

SPEAKER_04:

No, I would and who I would talk to and bullshit with during the day, yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Okay.

SPEAKER_04:

And I mean, if there was a some question that had to be asked, Lee. I mean, if and if there was like some bullshit, like, hey, we need somebody to go do something, I'm either gonna send like the new kids or the people that I don't like.

SPEAKER_06:

Hey, well, I I appreciate you for keeping it real.

SPEAKER_04:

But uh Yeah, no, shout out to Shadur. Um, he obviously does not execute he doesn't execute the offense the way that Stefanski would like. Uh not on schedule, but uh hey man, you're not your dad. He gets to talk shit like that, and it doesn't matter. You're not that, and I and I don't mean and I'm not saying it to say stop doing it. You're not that guy, and I'm not saying stop doing it, but mainly to his fans, like, hey man, can y'all just accept that somebody may not like that shit? So fuck him.

SPEAKER_06:

That's not me, but them. Well, if anything, the fans should realize it because of the positions that they're in, that the reality of this world that we live in is that I think a lot of us can do a lot more than uh we've done, but if you don't have that backing or that uh that cosign or whatever, it's gonna be a lot harder to do it. The more and more cosign you get, the better you can look, anyways. And now there are some people that do fumble that cosine, and that's a part of life as well. Like, you know what I mean? If they get a second chance, Sam Darnold, I like any of these people, fourth chance, yeah. I mean, nobody knows anyone's situations, so it's like it's it's it's it's it's the walking uh mile in my in my shoes for a mile fucking simulation type thing, it just it's it's hard to say what anyone can do in any type of situation, but there are so many people out here that are whether they're talented enough or just if they have the opportunity, what they can do, you know what I mean? Like it's just I don't think that it's fair to judge anyone on that. Now, sports are a different animal in the same beast, in the sense of of course, nobody can look at sports and not be critical, even of greats, like it just is a part of it, right? Like anyone that has any type of limelight, there's just gonna be criticism. But with him, he was getting dealt a bad hand and not dealt a bad hand from life, but built a dead bad hand from the outside looking in because of who he is already, how he does conduct himself, and the idea that he wasn't like that good, anyways, because Arch Manning, what do we really know about Arch Manning? He was the highs and favorite, Texas was the number one team, he fell flat on stage, he's picked it up a lot recently. Well, we'll get to that in the college page.

SPEAKER_04:

But the point, but the point is, we don't know anything about Arch Manning except for his pedigree, yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

Because it's the same thing with uh Shador in reality.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, but I mean, yeah, but hold on, that's not the point I was making, is his camp is doing that on purpose because they're quarterbacks, they understand what because you know the quarterback talks to the if you're the franchise guy, you have a relationship with the owner.

SPEAKER_09:

For sure.

SPEAKER_04:

Everybody else doesn't, so you're an extension of the owner. So if you're not Fa you have to act a certain way, and the Manning Art grooming art to act like a quarterback. Now, mind you, acting like a quarterback is total bullshit, it's just some shit that they say that has to be a thing. And I think to some degree a good quarterback has to have certain skills. But when they say certain personalities don't work at quarterback, look at the actual sample size.

SPEAKER_09:

Okay.

SPEAKER_04:

And then actually, if you pull if you peel back the layers of all of these other great quarterbacks, and we learn the truth about them and the lives that they live, that they lead, there are some consistencies, but there's shit all over. There's some probably church freaks who don't drink, some health freaks, some fucking fat slobs who just pound beer all season. Some watch a lot of film, some watch a little bit of film, some are precise. You know what I mean? Like there's all these different things that can make a quarterback good, and it's more important to have a good coach, quarterback, and GM mayor than necessarily beat to act a certain way, especially when it's a crafted way that you're acting, and that's not authentically who you are, because we saw how the Browns reacted to Shador, they fuck with dog.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, and and I think that just in general, when you think about that stuff, it's you can't be a nigga because ain't no owners niggas. Has there ever been a successful nigga quarterback that's lived that stood the test of time? Some could say Lamar as Lamar is not even like a nigga nigga, and he's the most successful to do it, huh? Name me a more successful black quarterback.

SPEAKER_02:

You say he's not a nigga.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm talking about everything that he does. He's not though.

SPEAKER_07:

I'm not sitting here, I'm not calling diamonds and his shit, brother.

SPEAKER_06:

No, I know you're not. I'm saying he's a nigga. He's not like bro, he's not he's not doing what shador is doing, he's not doing what Michael Dick low-key used to do, like, he's not doing that.

SPEAKER_04:

No, Shador. Like, Shador's annoying to me as a nigga, he does too much because he's nigga.

SPEAKER_06:

This is what I'm saying. He's a nigga, though. Like he's from he's from South Florida, and like he just he a nigga, but like he not that is not, he don't conduct himself that way.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, yeah, no, no, no. He he he's he's very classy, and and there's and I there's nothing wrong with not being classy. I think that can get into some of my views on Western philosophy and and and cultural norms, but you know, yeah, I don't think that he's that big of a nigga, I guess is what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, no, I I agree with that. I I just thought like I don't know what I thought you were saying by saying he's like not a nigga. It's like the fuck. But yes, there haven't been many quarterbacks that have been successful with that personality, but my counterpoint would be not many players with that personality while having the skill set uh get the opportunity to play quarterback at that level. They reroute early.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, you're you're you're you're you're look, you're preaching to a choir right now, but because you because go let's just be real.

SPEAKER_04:

How many Lamar Jackson's uh were there years ago? How many Michael Vicks, Cam, you know what I'm saying? Like the hood the hood nigga that can just sling the ball a country mile with terrible with terrible form and hasn't been refined at all, hadn't seen a quarterback coach. He learned how to throw the ball at the park.

SPEAKER_06:

No, there's not very many, and there's not very many that we would be able to sit here and speak of, but I think that they become receivers, they become receivers, they they do a lot of different things, and so I agree with you, but what I will say is this is that Lamar is not a shador, and shador, even to a degree, I think maybe from a cultural phenomenon, it's not Michael Vick, it just ain't Michael Vick. No, no, no, no, hold on. Michael Vick was the number one pick. Like, this is the other part about it. Like, Michael Vick could get away with, but the dog fighting, not to like act like that didn't happen, but like he could kind of get away with a lot of that shit. He flicked man, he flicked us off. When I say us, I mean literally when he flicked, I thought he was flicking my mom off, damn near.

SPEAKER_04:

Like, but but hold on, you're we're talking about cultural influence.

SPEAKER_06:

That's what I'm saying, but I'm saying he could get away with it because he's the number one pick. Shador is an underdog cultural inf which how often do you have an underdog? Uh a uh in New York, right? In New York, who was my man last year or two years ago? Uh Davito, Italian, grew up in New Jersey, quarterback, like like like that was great for New York City. You know what I mean? When I say somebody like Shador, if you look at it, it's like he's like an underdog nigga, though. Which there's nothing.

SPEAKER_04:

No, no, no, he's not. No, the fuck he's not.

SPEAKER_06:

He's not from the beating the odds, perfect timing.

SPEAKER_03:

Like, he ain't beat no fucking odds. The nigga's a millionaire. He was heats stop.

SPEAKER_06:

Yes, no, underdog.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, no, Deion Sanders' son is not ever a fucking underdog.

SPEAKER_06:

But I'm saying, I'm not.

SPEAKER_04:

When I say the point that you're trying to make. And no, he's not a fucking underdog. Oh, because he went in the fifth round? Uh maybe. No, he's not a fucking underdog. He's like the most famous bench warmer since Tim T vote, bruh. Like, that's not a fucking underdog.

SPEAKER_06:

I get it.

SPEAKER_04:

I mean, but but he he's more like Barack Obama.

SPEAKER_01:

Chador Sanders is the most powerful black man since 2009. You know what happened in 2009? That's when President Obama got elected in office. He's he's the most powerful black man since 2009. You said you were sitting there watching the game in your house, and what you did, you ran you ran with the TV. Yeah, right. Right. What was you doing, DB? Yeah, okay. You changed like a when Shadow Sanders is on the field, and when I say powerful, powerful because it's two sides of it, right? Think about it. Okay, you got the black community, he bringing the whole black community together. I ain't I ain't ran across one black person that that didn't say one bad thing about Shadow. We won't him, and guess what? Not one, because he hasn't met me perk. He has the balance of that. I'm arrogant, but I'm humble too. Yeah, we have fun with fun with shit, and on top of that, y'all want me to say it ain't y'all want me to feel it ain't go happy. Yeah, he's talking we the most he's the most powerful black man in sports, no other, no other he matter of fact, black man, he the most powerful player in sports, Mike Drop.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, I again, and I told you this when you sent me this clip. Um Perk should stick to having his bad takes only on the four letter, and I mean it. That is such a bad comparison, and I think I knew what he meant. It's just it's such a bad comparison because Barack Obama, for one, sits in the pantheons of MLKs, Harriet Tubins. Like, we're talking when it comes to fuck actually, and let me not even just do black history. Historically, period. This is somebody that sits in pantheon, not because yes, because he's the first black president, but like in general, his meaning to history is so great. If Shador Sanders became a five-time Pro Bowl quarterback and didn't make the Hall of Fame, his meaning would not be that of Barack Obama. So it's it's it's such a bad comparison, it's just a bad company.

SPEAKER_03:

He's bringing the black community community together, like black people. What are they doing?

SPEAKER_06:

Niggas aren't shooting each other because of it, and I'm not, and I hate that say it sounds so bad saying it this way.

SPEAKER_03:

But they're they're getting in front of the TV to watch him play football.

SPEAKER_06:

Fuck out of here, man. I I don't know.

SPEAKER_04:

I don't know, but hey, you know, uh, and I was gonna say this uh in the We Have Something to Say segment last week, but we didn't get to it. But I'm bothered, doubly bothered by black podcasters really only knowing how to talk about one line of things. And then they choose to talk about more than what they can talk about. But it also bothers me that so many big black media personalities, I should say, can't talk about a few different things intelligently. And I'm not talking about your Stephen A. Smith's because he's on air too much to be able to talk about a lot of different things. Yeah, but just just like big perk. It's you're talking football. You know what? You're probably more qualified. You're definitely more qualified to talk football than I am because you work at ESPN, so you get to talk to me. You used to do a podcast with Swaggoo. But Perk. I don't think you're the guy for presidential references or historical references. You know, Perk came straight out of high school.

SPEAKER_03:

A role player from the Celtics and the Thunder, a champion. A top prospect coming out of high school. Out of Texas.

SPEAKER_04:

Beaumont. Nigga who dribbles in his driveway in a suit and J's.

SPEAKER_06:

I'm glad Lee that that stuff impresses a lot of people. I'm glad that Perk does what he does on ESDM because obviously I'm familiar with him because I've seen his career. He's uh entertaining former basketball player that they put a mic in front of, and that's fantastic. But the reality of the situation is this Kendrick Perkins holds no weight when it comes to talking about anything outside of basketball to me. He was talking about football and bringing in politics. I don't want to fucking hear. Actually, it ain't even politics, it's his it's it's black history. If we want to break it down even further, because that's what he was saying. He was saying this is black history, which maybe it is not black history, but what I'm saying is that this nigga watched this nigga play one game where they played honestly, and we'll get because we're gonna get off this segment here soon. But like they played probably the worst team in the NFL if we're gonna keep it a buck. If we're gonna keep it a buck, I think the Raiders are the worst team in the league, and I know that they beat the Titans, but I think that if we keep it at a buck, nigga, that's the worst team in the NFL. We actually talked deeper about the Raiders. I didn't even send you this shit, and we didn't talk about it. Did you know that Jim Gray owns a piece of the Raiders too with Brady? No, okay. So apparently, and I'm gonna keep this really short. Apparently, he's a part of that Grady by uh I said Grady, Brady buy-in package, and he's the issue. Google, while and I'll continue to talk, Google Raiders, Jim Gray, and you look up what comes up, they are saying that behind the scenes, that yes, the the the the product on the field, because obviously they fired Chip Kelly, because we might as well address this now, too. Yep, they fired Chip Kelly. I didn't realize he was the highest Lego C in the NFL, but they fired Chip Kelly, the former CEO of the Raiders. I forgot her name, but she was there for a long time, and she's a big part of it. They fired man, they talked about it, and Jim Gray's a big part of this, apparently. That's what they say.

SPEAKER_04:

Amy Trask.

SPEAKER_06:

Yes, she's a big part of it, and it's it's unbelievable to me. She worked for she worked for Al. Yes, this is what I'm saying. Now, so you're are you it just I'm reading a story of the battle from fans side now? She probably should have been fired because the radio left on her own accord in like a few years, like almost a decade ago. Yes, but she's still obviously connected to the organization, certainly. Uh not Al, but she's you know Davis's son. They're they're they're they're still connected. I'm sure that they have to be because they know each other, but like, and she's cool with Tom. Now, Tom Brady has an interesting relationship with Jim Gray, as everybody knows. Even when Tom was playing, he used to do interviews on Monday night, and I would hear them when I would ride in my car coming from Snow Mountain to Atlanta to go home at halftime and like before the game. Normally, Jim Gray's on like CBS Sports Network. Like, while I'm talking about this is why he was on the Bucks quarterback, and would like talk to Jim Gray. Now, Jim Gray did the decision with LeBron. I don't know what Jim Gray was.

SPEAKER_04:

Sorry, I don't know what Jim Gray's uh why the fuck he gets to start running an NFL team.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, why he would even be included in it, and that he's able to cause enough mayhem in an organization that's already filled with it because they've been filled with it for so long. That the thought would be if you look at Pete Carroll, Pete Carroll's a good coach, like nobody can convince me that Pete Carroll's a bad coach.

SPEAKER_04:

Man, look, here's what the fuck's going on, Pete. Jim Gray has Brady's ear. Jim Gray is Brady's guy.

SPEAKER_06:

We got here too, by the way.

SPEAKER_04:

What's up, who's Jim Gray is likely spreading bullshit throughout the organization to different people saying different stuff and giving the appearance to some that he's speaking for Tom. But then they also know that if they cross Jim, that fucks him up with Tom. So he's rich McCain him. A guy who shouldn't have this much influence has put himself in a position to have to disrupt the franchise. Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

No, no, no, no, no, no. But this is why I bring it up. I brought it up because of the idea of even with the Shadorsa, it's just so much that goes on in these organizations to where nobody knows why these things are happening because we just aren't on the inside.

SPEAKER_04:

We can only speculate, we can all only speculate because we're just we're not a part of it, and the people who know are the ones are the ones who write the stories and they leave this shit out.

SPEAKER_06:

And that's another thing. These people know people, it's a relationship-based thing, it's like everything we know in life. Who do you know? Like, who can hook you up? If Lee, if if my company was in uh not only just a great position, but you know that even from a logistics standpoint, there would be no reason why anyone will be working anywhere in any capacity. If I'm an entrepreneur and I have the opening openingness and willingness of doing anything, there is nobody that wouldn't work with me that's some friend of mine, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, so like I think it's this it works the same way, the higher it goes, like no matter what. Like, it's like the same thing, and so it's like well, but but vice versa. If anyone can help me, I and I don't know, I am somebody that I don't like doing it. If I need help and I ask somebody to help me, I will only ask somebody I know that can help me, right? You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_04:

So and think about this though, there were there's some political topics that we could that we could, or I even on a solo show that I would love to talk about, but because of how the information was delivered, it'll never go on the microphone, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_06:

Protecting fucking relationships, and it's such as life, though. Like, like I think that anyone that's listening right now, live, seriously, you can sit here and I promise you, you could be elite, good, very good, like I mean borderline, great, or something like that, and like you won't get that opportunity. Now, I don't speak this necessarily just as somebody that's like somewhat lived. I think that for the most part, I've lived a solid life. So if I got shot dead yet last night, I think that's solid life so far. But what I would say is that now, even somewhat being on the outside looking in and looking at, I'm like, fuck. I'm like, this is wild. Like in a sense, of it's it's a part of the world that I've never got to see because I didn't have to deal with it, and most people don't have to deal with it, and they don't realize it until they're in a position to where they do have to fucking deal with some shit. When you got to deal with some shit, you're gonna be a lot more fuck sympathy or whatever, but you're gonna be more locked in on the idea of this is the way that everything really works, because then you'll start looking back and you'll be like, it's not about well, why does this person have this and why are they doing that? But naturally, as a person, you will feel that way. It doesn't mean that you have hate in your heart or envy or any of this stuff, but you will naturally look at it and say, I could do this too.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, and and and and but the and I'll say the beauty of that though is if you actually go out there and try to do it, you start to learn how difficult it is, and what you should do is gain gain a healthy respect for that person who you think you're better than. Because you can still be more talented than that person, but not the right situation, not the right relationships, not the right push, not the right visibility, all of these different things. But hey man, we're running low on time, so let's let's let's jump to Rivalry Week. One great thing about Thanksgiving is we get Rivalry Week in college football. Uh Georgia Tech lost last week, and that scares me.

SPEAKER_06:

It didn't scare me from the standpoint of for UGA winning the game.

SPEAKER_04:

Maybe they won't cover, but like oh shit, we should win because uh we uh uh you know the the Athens special.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, the game that Mercedes been, obviously, right?

SPEAKER_04:

I'm talking about a reckless driving leading into the end of the season.

SPEAKER_06:

He did send that.

SPEAKER_04:

We're in rare form, you know. We're shaping up. This is this is the Georgia football I know kicking ass and fucking speed.

SPEAKER_06:

I think that Georgia Tech, after watching them against Pittsburgh, it's not a very good football team, low-key. They're having a good year. Obviously, their playoff hopes shatter with that. It sucks because if they had won, no matter what happened, they're in the ACC championship, they win the ACC they're in. And it would have been good, not just for college football to have this fresh face, but for the state of Georgia, right? Yeah, it just is good because as much as we're Georgia fans, I think that we always want tech to do well.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, we root for tech pretty much every week, except for a little brother, there really are a little brother.

SPEAKER_06:

Like, it's like I don't want you necessarily better than me, but I want to I want you to do well, yeah. Like if we're in the same competition, it's like I'm gonna beat because I'm big brother and I can't lose to you. But anything outside of me, man, have at it.

SPEAKER_04:

Like it's not like you know, it's not Auburn, Alabama.

SPEAKER_06:

If tech were to win a name, they're right, they're rivals, but like they're not rivals, fans are rivals, they're fans, they're like a it's a friendly rival. No, no, it's like it's like us in fantasy football. Like, I think you can get your brands kicked in this week, Lee. Sure, I do because I need that number one seat, I want the bye. So but I would rather not have to play justice, not because oh no, I want you to play justice, mutually excuse me. No, not because I don't think he not because I think I can beat him, it's just I don't want to have to beat justice. You're afraid, I get it. No, I'm I'm really not.

SPEAKER_03:

What little brother becomes big brother?

SPEAKER_06:

I would love to play him in the championship again.

SPEAKER_04:

I would become little brother becomes big brother. No, y'all can't play in a championship again because y'all collude.

SPEAKER_06:

No, well, that didn't even make any sense overall. There is no collusion.

SPEAKER_03:

How can we we're gonna hey? We're gonna split the pot.

SPEAKER_06:

What does that have to do with anything, though?

SPEAKER_04:

Hey, hey, let's make a side bet so neither of us lose.

SPEAKER_06:

Let's just bitch ourselves to where, regardless of who wins, we split the money and we both are winners. Why would anyone be mad at that? If it didn't have nothing to do with I sent only a player that was like that only, and then he sent me one like like he liked the running back, I like the quarterback, and we made a straight up swap. It didn't make any, and even then, it's still only only two people in the league think think that's okay, you know. Okay, well, we've never done that before, like, even when we played, what it was was he wanted to win, and I wanted to win some money. We both wanted to win money, and so it, but we ended up playing each other, anyways.

SPEAKER_03:

So yeah, he wanted to win, and you wanted to win some money, so it's like, hey, I'll get you his championship, but it worked out because we played each other, yeah, and we did split the money.

SPEAKER_06:

I don't have to lie about it. We split it. I know, I'm not accusing you of lying, but then it became, but then it did come down to a collusion, it's not that it mattered, it didn't matter who won at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_04:

It didn't matter who won't matter in this league because we win, because we are a collective, we are the Hodges brothers, and we work together.

SPEAKER_06:

We won more championships combined than the league combined, like yeah, because we won we both won three because you both collude. That that's what happens. We both collude. I mean, it just so happens that we won this these leagues, like that's like that's like the mob.

SPEAKER_04:

That's like the mob saying, Hey, we've got the most uh uh building contracts in the city. No shit.

SPEAKER_06:

League this league has been in existence for 10 years. I have been in the championship six times, I've won three times, justice has won three times.

SPEAKER_12:

It's nice, it's nice, it's nice when you have a teammate inside of a competitive league.

SPEAKER_06:

He's not a teammate, he's not a teammate. If he loses to JP, hopefully you lose.

SPEAKER_04:

I will be glad that if Erickson, because I don't think Eric's ever been in the playoffs, but I could call Julia Turner right now, and he will back up.

SPEAKER_06:

I don't I don't think that that that our fantasy football league it doesn't go that deep. I want justice, I but you guys have to understand. I mean, I want you guys to do well too, but like I want of course I want justice. I want I have known justice since he was born.

SPEAKER_04:

Hey Drew. Hey, you're on the pod real quick. Does uh do you believe that Pierce and Justice collude in our fantasy league? Something like the mob does when they get contracts in cities?

SPEAKER_07:

Uh I believe that they put the integrity of our league at risk. That's such bullshit, and he knows it too. I I think that when you have two people with the same last name, um, especially the Hodge, it doesn't bode well for the spirit of competition.

SPEAKER_06:

You if you're my brother and Lee is my brother, because I consider you guys brothers. Now, yes, me and Justice have the same mom and dad, so of course, I'm gonna split the pot with him, you know. I've known Justice since he was born. You guys have to remember this. I've known this nigga. I I only have well now I have two younger brothers, but like for the most part, for the longest part of my life, I've only had one younger brother. Of course, I care about justice.

SPEAKER_04:

Like, yeah, you care about you care about the Hodges family dominating the league. So if you don't have this the point, Larry Justice went.

SPEAKER_06:

You guys don't even remember this. Laris was actually in our league one year, and I mean he didn't win anything, like Laris was in our league. I think it was one of those years where we were like short, someone I was on defense, but like conclusion, no, Laris didn't he didn't go to the playoffs, like uh, but this is what I'm saying probably sold you guys players.

SPEAKER_04:

Hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna wave this guy. I'm gonna waive this guy on Thursday at four o'clock. Bullshit. We don't do that.

SPEAKER_07:

Now you're yeah, you're not you're not, you're not now it's an integrity thing of me.

SPEAKER_06:

Huh? Now you're saying I don't have a chance.

SPEAKER_07:

You know, you know, you know the thing of like that commercial when they're like uh the NBA players are like describe the dude, he's like soft, pretty boy, bitch. You know what I'm saying? That's that's that's how I feel about that's how I feel about the Hodges.

SPEAKER_06:

Um when it comes to when it comes to fantasy fantasy football, liars, sleeve, you know, you you guys, you know, and and I don't like how Lee led off with let they're like the mob or something. There is no fucking mob, but how can there be a mob? How can two niggas be a mob? There's no that's not possible against 10 other people. You're right, there is no mob.

SPEAKER_04:

It is when they're all mob hey, yeah, there's right. That's what somebody in the mob would say, right, Julian?

SPEAKER_07:

There is no what no well it's it's just like all the picky blinders. There is there is there is no mob, but it's just a picky blinder. If there is no mob, it's just loaders express. That's all it is. You know, that's all that's all it is.

SPEAKER_04:

Hey, hey, thanks for that, Julian. I I knew you would be great on this segment.

SPEAKER_07:

Anytime, any any any time to expose clothes and who you know who who don't believe in the fantasy and uh uh uh fantasy football and will do anything, and I mean anything to come in the first place. Hey, I'm your guy. Thanks, dog.

SPEAKER_02:

Hey, you have a happy Thanksgiving, dog. We're gonna holler at you.

SPEAKER_07:

Hey, as well. Hey, love you, boys.

SPEAKER_06:

Love you too. Love you too, brother. All right, all right. All right, so he called the most biased person he could find, and we'll leave it at that. Uh I wish we could get Josh Holsey. I know he's somewhere satellite, but regardless, my point is is this this fantasy football league, it it is fun. It's fun. I mean, obviously, we we always look forward to it every year. There's no collusion that goes on. This is this is just as uh shameless as uh us talking about Josh Holsey and his box course. I we don't hate Josh, just as they don't really this is uh K thade. Hey man, this is you know what I mean, like but hey big dog, we got 10 minutes left.

SPEAKER_04:

Um what's important?

SPEAKER_06:

Let's do this. Yeah, because gosh, I do need to get down there. Uh I tell you what, we could extend it. It's 951.

SPEAKER_04:

I I I've I've got to do a FaceTime and I still want to get downtown before it gets too late, too. Oh, so I'm I'm I'm rocking with the 10 o'clock.

SPEAKER_06:

Okay, that's fine. All right, well then hold on.

SPEAKER_04:

And I mean, we can like I mean, give or take 5'10, right?

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, that's what I was saying. That's more what I was doing. All right, well, let's just quickly hit some stuff. LeBron's last season. What do you think?

SPEAKER_04:

LeCap.

SPEAKER_06:

I agree too. I don't I don't believe that LeBron, like I told you, I don't think his pride would honestly allow him to just retire like this.

SPEAKER_04:

So I don't think Adam Silver's uh employer would allow LeBron to do this, yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

And certainly the Lakers wouldn't either. So, all right, that's enough uh the narrative. Hearts got blown out. We're not gonna talk about them. Uh, how about let's get to the morale student real quick.

SPEAKER_03:

You didn't want to talk about CP3 retiring announcing his retirement?

SPEAKER_06:

He had our he had low-key already done it, and like nobody just cared.

SPEAKER_04:

So it was like, I mean, we can, but like nobody cared anyways, so it's kind of just like, well, CP3, uh a great point guard, better loved by fans and media than people who played with him, pause and against him.

SPEAKER_06:

But that's agree that I I can agree with that. I think that Chris Paul's legacy, he's a first ballot hall of favor, but like at the same time, he never won. One I if there's one thing that everybody can say about Chris Paul is his impact is to me more similar to Jason Kidd than anyone. Everything that he went to got better when he got, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

But like my my point about players not liking him, like and I think people didn't like Jason Kidd too.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, no, but but or at least his kids don't. His kid think he's like a dick.

SPEAKER_04:

Like, well, I'm I'm talking about like basketball not liking him. Just if you play with Chris Paul, you have to play the way Chris Paul wants to play. And if you have any individuality to your game, it's it's it could be a tough place for you, and he's a banana boat member as well.

SPEAKER_06:

And of course, when you're a part of the banana boat crew, it um gets wet, it does get wet, it does.

SPEAKER_04:

I it does, but um what else is on here? You want to talk about the Morehouse student?

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, just briefly, he got I didn't even see the video. Obviously, I just read the report. But what I will say is that I don't condone um any violence as a whole, but certainly a moral student on a Clark or a Spelman, like I know it's Clark, but like it's certainly man on woman.

SPEAKER_04:

Hey man, keep your hand off women.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, it's real simple. I mean, I these are things that it's so sad that they have to be talked about, even because these are like known things, like why keep your hands off other men too if they don't touch it.

SPEAKER_04:

Well, yeah, but that's uh that's what I was about to say. Here comes the hard part. You the reason why this conversation I think keeps coming up is because we can't have the real conversation, and it kind of reminds me of like what got Steve in hot water, uh you know, with the stuff that came up recently when he was talking about the Ray Rice incident, and he was like, I'm not condoning what he did, but like, what did she do? You know what I mean? But hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_06:

Don't shake your head at that because Steve's just it's Steve.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, it again, but it's a it's a legitimate question. Nothing well. Most things that happen No, fuck that. Nothing happens I can't think of much that will happen where it justifies a man like being physically aggressive towards a woman. There are a couple of situations like she's trying to kill you, whatever, whatever, she has a she has a weapon. Like there are places where that's uh your only option, right? See how crazy it is for me to even say it. Because you know you you know what I mean, everybody knows what I mean, but it it can be taken another way. But as a human being, uh you should also not put yourself in a position to have somebody put hands on you. And what does that mean? Some people don't have self-control. So you can't assume that everybody has self-control. And this isn't victim blaming. This is called being a responsible adult. We've been in confrontations with people before. You take a second to think about this confrontation or this possible confrontation. Where am I at? Who am I with? Why am I doing this? Why are we doing this? What's the security situation? Can I get out of here? Uh am I out of state? You know, like there's all these different thoughts going through your head. So in saying that, like, yo, is if if you see somebody violent like that, you should stay away from them. Or you if you're gonna be around them, conduct yourself accordingly or be prepared for that. Again, that's you. That person needs to work on themselves and and their self-control. Definitely. But I'm only giving the quote unquote victim side, like the quote unquote victim blaming, more attention because that's not a conversation that's had. And I'm somebody who oh, I've been hit before by a woman and I didn't hit her back. You don't get hit for no reason, even if what you did doesn't deserve you being hit. For sure. So I say that to say, man, watch what you do, watch what you say, because you can only control yourself. You can't control other people. Hey, control yourself, motherfucker. Watch what the fuck you're doing. Don't put your hands on no on no girl like that, bro. Don't be put your hands on nobody like that. Your parents didn't send you to Morehouse to be fighting. Like, yeah, let me be an old nigga real quick. Like, hey, all you you tough guys in college, it's one thing to be a man and not to allow disrespect. If somebody puts you in a situation, yeah, you fight. Fights happen. Especially at all male college. Like, it's a lot of testosterone going on in them freshman dorms.

SPEAKER_06:

But a lot of new niggas meeting each other and wherever they're territory, like well, they believe that where I'm from is greater than where you're from, or oh, you didn't grow up like me.

SPEAKER_04:

Like it's a lot of that dumb shit that you're supposed to work through. And I think your parents are okay with that because you find yourself. But hey, young man, take this as a learning lesson in finding yourself. Because if this is who you are gonna continue to be, you're gonna continue to you're gonna continue to be in these situations. Funny thing, uh, a reference to our friend earlier, where you may know her, but I won't say why. Part of why you won't say why because sometimes what what everybody knows you for is who you are to them forever, and you don't get to reintroduce yourself, right?

SPEAKER_06:

You never get that opportunity, can't be ho all the time, yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

So be careful of what you do because that might be who you are to somebody forever.

SPEAKER_06:

I I can't I can't think of a better way to say that, and there's only one way that we can end up ending this, anyways, and I guess that's with the picks.

SPEAKER_04:

Um that jumped a gun. Um, you're good. Well, I don't know. Go ahead and do it so I can do it again now.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fall start, Lee. 10 second reset, automatic time to do this over again. All right. So uh what I was gonna say was just this, uh, just in general, because I was looking at obviously our uh our card here, and I know that we're gonna leave here soon, but like uh because Epstein, we could talk about it at any time. Um certainly we couldn't even uh recap, but uh one of the things I did just want to quickly say, especially, and I think it's perfect timing. Uh uh when it comes to the college football playoffs, these guys just real quick, do you think you probably didn't see the clip, but like uh they asked about um top five stay the same. Then old miss got jumped by Oregon. Now, Oregon did beat USC at home, and their opinion of it was literally they asked to do you know what he said because they were six and seven. He's like six seven. He literally did it, like basically it's one and the same, and this. Just like you're a sneaky motherfucker, nigga. You think that this this pop culture shit or or or they think Lane's leaving? Well, that was the question. The question was, and just quickly, you can tell who you think after I say this, where you think he will go if he's gonna leave it all, which is my thing. But like uh they asked what type of impact does that have if they win the egg ball, and because obviously Florida State in a 14 playoff is undefeated and wins the ACC, but doesn't go in because they're starting quarterback, won't be playing, so it's like, does that have an impact? Is what the question was, and then he said six seven. That was literally his answer, though.

SPEAKER_04:

And it's like, okay, he's the well seriously. Yeah, that was the best non-answer that he could give. It's funny, it's stupid because they were literally both six and seven, and they it's clever, but it also lets them know you're not gonna tell them anything, which is the right thing to do.

SPEAKER_06:

But but but old miss gets in if they win, and so does Oklahoma. Like, these are teams that should be in if they win, one way or another. Yeah, it doesn't matter if Lane's the coach. I don't know who the coach would be if Lane leaves, but like more importantly, why does it why is it that if Lane leaves, he can't finish out the season? We've seen Jim Moore, they're not playing for anything, but like why that there is another coach, I think it's North Texas's coach, he's going to um somewhere, and they said that he's gonna get to finish out because North Texas has a chance to obviously make the college football playoffs, so it's like Florida and LSU need to get their guy in so they can uh share up their recruits because they're they're playing at a different level and there's different money involved.

SPEAKER_04:

And it kind of goes to what uh Coach Saban said this past week on game day or two weeks ago, whenever he said it. This is bullshit. Like that's essentially what he said. You owe the players something as a coach. You owe the university something as a coach, but more importantly, you owe these players because you don't get to compete for a national championship every year. Ole Metz doesn't compete for national championships. You have your team competing for a national championship. Florida LSU, if you maybe want the national championship winning coach to come to your school, you know, or maybe not, because that drives up the price. I I don't fucking know because he's gonna get the highest contract in until Kirby uh until he signs it, then Kirby will pass him. But um I just college football is the wild, wild west, and it's being ran by the TV networks, and the TV networks don't actually care about football, they care about uh ad revenue and data. So here we are.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, that makes total sense to me, but we gotta make sense of these pictures weekly. So you know what time it means, right?

SPEAKER_10:

Oh, ladies and gentlemen, it is time for Parlay Palace Football Six Pra 666.

SPEAKER_06:

All right, so uh obviously happy holidays to those and everyone listening. I'm gonna say this again because I guess the NFL clip's the one that normally is posted, but nonetheless, we've got a delicious spread for this holiday occasion. This is actually the last week of college football. It's so crazy how fast this year's went, Bali. Would you agree?

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06:

It is gone by so quickly, but let's get into it. We got LSU at Oklahoma. Oklahoma has a playoff spot on the line. We will be taking Oklahoma on the line. So let's get Oklahoma minus nine and a half at home. They're going to the playoffs. Congratulations, Oklahoma. Next, we got Missouri at Arkansas, a game that actually doesn't have meaning but value. We're going to take Missouri on the money line. They're minus 145. I think that's tremendous value against uh I was going to say Bobby Bowden. Against that former fucker that was the Falcons head coach uh since he's coaching in Arkansas, and they're, you know, they're not all right. Missouri's better. Shout out to Coach Drake. We got Arizona at Arizona State. I like over 47. They had it set at 47. That's pretty low. Um, we're gonna take over 47 to Arizona at Arizona State. Uh, then we got Mississippi at Mississippi State, as we talked about Lane Kiffen. Let me get Mississippi Ole Miss to win. I just I don't really care what's going on. Fun fact lost a$50,000 bet, probably I think it was two or three Thanksgivings ago on this game because I took Ole Miss. But I'll leave that there for the uh what would they call that, Lee?

SPEAKER_02:

I don't know.

SPEAKER_06:

I don't know. They have this thing where they're like notes, they're not spark notes, but it's like something for readers whenever they read something. Click notes. Click notes for this, just to give a heads up. Next, we got Georgia at Georgia Tech. Of course, I have to touch the uh good old-fashioned hate. I like under 60. They haven't said it 60. I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't know if Georgia Tech's just gonna move the ball on Georgia. I know the last year we got the classic, probably the best game they've ever played. We're gonna take under 60 here. I just don't, that's a really high number. Under 60. And then we got Texas AM and Texas. This has surprised a lot of people. Give me Texas on the money line, baby. I think Texas wins at home against AM. AM hadn't lost the game all year. I don't think that AM, especially after the South Carolina game, I don't know how good they truly are. Texas isn't that as good as we thought that they were, but what we do know is that Arch Manning is better and certainly next year will warrant all the Texas and Arch hype, as far as I'm concerned. Assuming he comes back, that team will be probably the best team in the SEC.

SPEAKER_04:

Um if Texas wins, they get in, by the way.

SPEAKER_06:

No, they don't. It it's gonna take a lot of stuff, Lee. It's gonna take a lot. We'll talk about it next week, but like it's gonna, it's it's it, I think it's gonna take a lot for them to get in. They're a lost team. I I know it's gonna take a lot, they're gonna need some stuff to happen. But I'm not saying that they can't, I just think that because it so all right, hold on, real quick. The network will that, but then if AM loses, Georgia wins and Alabama beats Oliver, which they will. Gosh, that was actually the pick I wanted to put in. I didn't see it on here when I put this in. I like Alabama minus five and a half. I really, really do. I think that's way too low against Oliver. They're gonna absolutely cover that spread. Low-key Lee, hold on. Can you cross out just real quick? I'm sorry, that was actually the pick I wanted. Can you cross out uh I like all these? I really do. Uh just cross out the Arizona, Arizona State, and put uh Alabama minus five, minus five and a half against Auburn. Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna cover this red. Like they're gonna beat them on a touchdown.

SPEAKER_04:

So all right, so we got Oklahoma minus nine and a half. We've got Mizzou on the money line, Bama minus five and a half, Ole Miss on the money line. Georgia and Georgia Tech under 60.

SPEAKER_05:

Yep.

SPEAKER_04:

And Hook Emhorns, Texas on the money line.

SPEAKER_05:

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

SPEAKER_10:

Uh ladies and gentlemen, it is time for Parlay PSL six pack.

SPEAKER_06:

Happy holidays to those out there that celebrate. Let's get into it. We are thankful for these six picks. Uh, we've got the Buffalo Bills at the Pittsburgh Steelers, which is funny because we're not doing any picks from the Thanksgiving game because I don't think I can get it up in time tomorrow. Maybe I will. We'll see. But, and it's a juicy slick, too. Anyways, we're gonna do all the Sunday games or Monday games. Buffalo Bills at uh Pittsburgh Steelers. I like over 60. Give me uh Bills at Steelers over six. I'm sorry. Bills at Steelers over 46. Next, I don't have to explain it. Bad defense points, very important game. Uh Raiders at uh Chargers, Chargers minus eight and a half. The Raiders, I think, are the worst team in the NFL, giving the Chargers at eight and a half coming off a bad performance. Giants at Patriots is the Monday night game. I like what Janice is cooking. I'm gonna take the Giants on the money line. I don't know why. We're gonna go Giants money line. Then next we got the Falcons at the Jets. I hope that I am not jinxing my team. We're gonna take the Falcons to beat the Jets on the money line. Uh, next we got the Vikings at the Steel uh Seahawks. I like Vikings minus nine and a half. I think that this line's a little low.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, Vikings at the Seahawks.

SPEAKER_06:

Yep. And Vikings Steelers might I'm sorry, Seahawks minus nine and a half.

SPEAKER_03:

Oh, I was about to say.

SPEAKER_06:

But it is Vikings at Seahawks, but Seahawks minus nine and a half, and then finally, we've got the Cardinals at the Buccaneers. We have no idea if Baker's gonna play, but 43 and a half is a low number for both of these teams, regardless. I'm gonna take the over over 43 and a half in that game.

SPEAKER_04:

And who's that?

SPEAKER_06:

Uh Cardinals at Bucks.

SPEAKER_04:

So we got Steelers. Buffalo and Steelers over 46. Uh Chargers minus eight and a half. Giants on the money line. Falcons on the money line. Seahawks minus nine and a half.

SPEAKER_09:

Yep.

SPEAKER_04:

And cards at Bucks over 43 and a half.

SPEAKER_06:

That's a low number, but yes.

SPEAKER_04:

You like it? I love it.

SPEAKER_06:

And when he likes it and he loves it, we will be time for Leeds three. Leads three.

SPEAKER_04:

All right. So for Leeds three this week, give me Lane on the money line. You know, shout out to Lane, uh, one of my favorite college football coaches. He's he's gonna win that egg bowl and make old miss proud.

SPEAKER_06:

And then what happens after that? Just a quick prediction from you from that standpoint. Where does he go?

SPEAKER_04:

He's gonna win that egg bowl, and he's going to make old miss proud.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, but he's doing a press conference the next day. Where is he gonna leave or is he gonna stay? Should I stay or should I go?

SPEAKER_04:

He's gonna make old miss proud.

SPEAKER_06:

Okay.

SPEAKER_04:

Living dying Dixie.

SPEAKER_06:

Okay.

SPEAKER_04:

I mean, all of those school are in Dixie, but nonetheless. Uh, give me the Falcons on the money line. I I don't like to take the Falcons. I don't believe in the Falcons. I don't trust the Falcons, but the Jets stink.

SPEAKER_05:

They do, they suck.

SPEAKER_04:

And and then finally, give me the Seahawks minus nine and a half. Um the Vikings have a terrible quarterback, a terrible NFL quarterback.

SPEAKER_06:

And JJ's not even starting.

SPEAKER_03:

Carson's back?

SPEAKER_06:

No, it's uh Max Brosner. You ever heard of him?

SPEAKER_04:

This is really scary going into this.

SPEAKER_06:

Well, he was a quarterback in Minnesota last year. Minnesota sucks on offense in college, so I highly doubt that it'll make any difference in the NFL.

SPEAKER_04:

Maybe he'll force feed Jettas.

SPEAKER_06:

Brother, that's you're in for you're in for a rude fucking awakening.

SPEAKER_04:

I I I don't have an expectation. I mean, I tried to trade Jettis away weeks ago. Nobody wanted him.

SPEAKER_06:

Lee, you will be playing a playoff game next week if everything goes the way it should.

SPEAKER_04:

Devin A. Chain. My workhorse.

SPEAKER_06:

He's caused some nightmares for me. I've got mine that fumbled that gave you that win. Because you know, yeah, so this is a fun fact, too, before we get off. If I win that game, I've already clinched the number one seed. It didn't even matter what happens this week.

SPEAKER_04:

You know, if uh Dallas doesn't do that bullshit that they did uh in the Monday night game, I would have clinched Funday or Monday or Tuesday morning to be exact.

SPEAKER_05:

It's a game of inches, right?

SPEAKER_04:

That's what she said.

SPEAKER_06:

As she should. Lee, happy Thanksgiving. I'm sure that we'll probably be talking at some point tomorrow, if not uh on the phone or uh I know we will probably definitely be messed up, but I'm sure we'll talk too. But yeah, you guys have a happy Thanksgiving. Um salutations, good people. Until next time.

SPEAKER_04:

All right, we'll see y'all next week.

SPEAKER_06:

All right, brother. Take care.

SPEAKER_04:

Yep.