Culturally Inappropriate with A.C. Lee

Village Vets: We Ain’t Even Gotta Hold It Long

A.C. Lee

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Pain hits different when you have options—but does money actually help you heal, or just help you hide? We kick off with a raw look at heartbreak, wealth, and the myth that rich means invulnerable, using Mary J. as a cultural mirror. From there, we call out the entertainment machine for propping up familiar faces and clout over craft, then celebrate a real win: we’re taking the pod live at a Black History event in Cartersville and bringing the internet energy to the village.

Sports fans, we go deep on the Falcons’ identity shift—finally getting under center, leaning on play action, and letting a nasty defense shine. We challenge the Kirk Cousins price tag, weigh coaching futures, and ask whether Atlanta keeps hiring for city vibes instead of football culture. Then it’s quarterback politics 101: Shadur vs Dylan Gabriel is more than arm talent; it’s size, scheme fit, whiteboard comfort, and the brutal truth that draft capital and job security often decide who plays.

The culture conversation hits hard with Lizzo, Ozempic, and the body positivity rollercoaster. We push past slogans to talk health, standards, and why the real pressure point might be the BBL boom and algorithm-approved bodies. Confidence isn’t a filter; it’s habits and honesty. Tattoos become a thread through identity—how we rewrite ourselves after hard seasons, how policy and perception shape what we show, and why some stories need ink.

We land on practical game: travel rules that keep the crew tight, wingman ethics, and how not to fumble a night by ordering like a baller on someone else’s dime. It’s funny, unfiltered, and useful—equal parts barbershop and breakdown. If you’re here for sharp takes, locker room realism, and conversations that refuse to pick the easy side, you’ll feel at home.

If you rocked with this one, follow the show, share it with a friend, and drop a review telling us where you stand—does money change pain, or just the choices you make to outrun it?

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SPEAKER_01:

Mary Just tough too, though. It's just those rainy days.

SPEAKER_00:

I love when she's hurt.

SPEAKER_01:

She snap out now. I love when she's hurt. She just gets drunk then. Stop being aggressive and she breaking shit. She but then she sang about it. She ain't doing it no way. Nobody's saying Mary ain't doing no drinking no more. She done changed. She's the TV star now. She's too rich. Can't never be too rich.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, she's too rich to do this. You don't hurt like that when you got money like that.

SPEAKER_01:

I ain't gonna say that. I ain't gonna say that. I ain't gonna say that. Hell no. You gotta remember them rich, the the ones with most money, them the ones that be the hurtest.

SPEAKER_00:

But look here, you you may be more hurt on the inside. But think of all the ways you can get out of being hurt. That's go. But you I mean, I know that stuff doesn't make you whole. Yeah, it don't make you whole. But until you get whole, you got a whole lot more than us regular niggas down here.

SPEAKER_01:

I ain't gonna say that, bro. Because again, like when if you ever look at it, if you be looking at like just let's go back. I guess whenever you look at those, other than those like four o'clock commercials that used to come on on BT, if you look at like the poor kids of the like Africa, you don't ever see them like frowning, you don't ever see them. Like if you I know you watch baddies.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm not, I don't watch baddies.

SPEAKER_01:

You do watch baddies. Well, they had they had a scene in baddies where they went to Africa and all the kids was I mean, they was living in damn like little shacks type shit. Man, they still everybody in the dancing, partying, having a good time, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Because that's what they know. And I'm and I and look, I'm I'm not saying that again on the inside you feel better, but the ways that you get to act and things you get to do to take your mind off the hurt. Oh golly, I don't know. Mary can keep herself busy all day long. She can fly here, go buy that, go do this, go eat that. Uh uh, she ain't got you hurt different when you broke and inspired and you ain't got shit.

SPEAKER_01:

That's a you know what I'm saying? No, no, that I mean you hurt different when you know it though, like when you know that life, I feel, and that's only if you know that life for real. But if you regular neglect, I mean, it ain't nothing to be broke to be out here partying, and you know all that good stuff. Um I don't feel personally.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, personally, as somebody who uh is broke and ain't been broke before, I don't know how to party, carry on, and do stuff broke. I I don't know how to be broke.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, yeah, I don't know how to say that.

SPEAKER_00:

And I know some people would consider what I was how I was living as broke, so broke is relative, but unemployed for four months is that you know that's broke, you know kind of broke. I mean, it nah, it ain't the worst kind of no, bro.

SPEAKER_01:

It's not at all, and you can't even you can't use that because again, bruh, you I ain't gonna we ain't talking, but I'm saying you was able to be set up to be straight. If you go back to folks who ain't never had the extras that you had, them folks they and they don't know what they don't know what money looked like and all the fun stuff look like. Man, shit. If we us living in that little uh apartment over there in the project, you having you know good life, you still having a good time, all the kids and everybody still have fun now until they go see the folks with all the money and the jets and the I mean in the jet boat skis and all that good stuff, but whatever.

SPEAKER_00:

Now imagine them them broke people you're talking about. If they understood my broke situation, they would say I'm not broke. Facts, and they would be having some good fun. I forgot how to have that kind of fun.

SPEAKER_01:

That's the thing, and that's the thing. Once you take money out of it, it ain't it really, you really still gotta be regular. That's what that's why I'm telling you. With Mary, just because she got money, bruh. I guarantee you, she might be crazier now. I get I guarantee you, she might be sitting over there crazy in the Diddy gone, but she ain't putting it in the music. What she is move, she'll TV star now. She gotta put it in the acting. I bet she that's uh that's what's her name. Uh what's her name? Toretta, Toretta, yeah. Man, come on. Is it some Tyler Peri or something? No, she on Fitz show. Oh same thing. The boy you don't have to be a good actor.

SPEAKER_00:

No, I'm just saying that you don't have to act well to be in their shows, in their movies, you know. It's like for for uh for 50, it's rappers and ex-rappers, yeah, and for Tyler Perry, it's washed up black actors and actresses.

SPEAKER_01:

I ain't gonna say what I want to say in that.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, uh, you know, you he sometimes allegedly likes to uh employ uh you know its pieces, folks.

SPEAKER_01:

He can follow on us.

SPEAKER_00:

It may be mutual, it's mutual, you know.

SPEAKER_01:

That's the type trick. That man said he didn't want to be talked to like that. He wanted that role, didn't he? He got that role too, didn't he? The little role play for the role.

SPEAKER_00:

He definitely got that role too. And then that role dried up, and then he started talking. Oh man, so Tyler Perry just cut him off. He didn't want to pay a side piece no more. So get on out of here. I gave you a job, I gave you a name. You might be able to work somewhere.

SPEAKER_01:

So when you say side piece, what and this is this alleged. Oh, like do you think they was you think he was like singing him, or do you think they would just like text messaging? Because again, that's all he was doing.

SPEAKER_00:

I seen all the I remember he said that one time he was like Tyler came in the room with him at the when he's putting the house.

SPEAKER_01:

He said they just came in the room, he just grabbed him from behind, right? Like he said he didn't, he just grabbed him in.

SPEAKER_00:

Have you ever got behind a piece of ass that you wanted and laid in the bed with and grabbed it from behind? I mean, yeah, right. I mean a man. What did you do after you put that big hug on and put your meat right in between those two cheeks? What did you do after that?

SPEAKER_01:

Uh I mean, I ain't as freaky as y'all, so I probably end up going to sleep or something getting relaxed. Again, I don't know. That's why I'm saying this got more kids than me. I know that right. I know that right. But no, that's what, but bruh, I don't know. I don't know, man. It's I don't know. It's it's that's it's it's it's I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I don't know if we can say what's the right word. I'm trying to think of the right. I don't know if we can say it. I'm still not gonna let you say Tyler Perry and 50 the same, uh, but I am gonna say I just said they employ the same type of people. I get it, and that's what I'm saying. I don't think 50 would ever do that to nobody.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, no, no, for God, you know, no, no, no. I would never put I would never put those allegations on anybody unless I saw it, um, uh witnessed it, or uh, you know, uh didn't know or got a first hand account from somebody who was a victim.

SPEAKER_01:

And um what a freak it. Hey, how you doing, man? I'm good, dog. I'm good, man. What about yourself?

SPEAKER_00:

Doing all right, man. Uh, you know, just looking at the mic over here.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Which mic? Which one? The the other one. Yeah, you know, Dean's mic. You know, he's he's not here. Shout out, my boy Dino, man. Little T3 came in the building. He ain't supposed to be here this week. He's supposed to be gone. Uh, and and I ain't gonna say what he said either, but he's supposed to be in daddy mode. That's all. He's just taking care of business, man. Shout out Dino.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, shout out to Dean, shout out to three T3. Uh, I'm gonna call him Lil Todd.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm gonna call him three.

SPEAKER_00:

Because he's you know, he's like little Todd. You know, not like we call Todd Lil Todd. Yeah, yeah, that's Lil Todd. Lil Lil Todd. Yeah, little little Todd. Nah, but nah, I don't know. But shout out to Dean. Happy for you, shout out to Draca. Um, I know y'all got y'all's family and all of that stuff, but hey man, you family, you know what I mean? We got we got another one to the family, for sure, for sure. And we look forward to being um a part of that journey. For sure. Well, um hold on before you get to anything else. I also uh you know we got booked.

SPEAKER_01:

But what yeah, I know, I mean, I didn't know you had called me and told me you didn't answer the phone when you were trying to tell me about it, but I don't know what we got booked for.

SPEAKER_00:

So we got booked to uh to a live pod at the uh black history event in Cartersville, downtown.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

They know what we talk about, don't they? I mean, we they no, we don't we we don't need that for that.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, we need we well, we ain't changed, we're gonna have to do a regular show now. If we just because we it's for us. Oh, okay. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, so it's we're gonna be able to keep our same vibe. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

It's our show. We can set up, we we gonna get we have our space and we can set up how we want to.

SPEAKER_01:

All right, sure enough. No, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, they uh they talked to management. I didn't know that. They didn't talk to you though, did they? I didn't get I didn't talk about nothing, did it? Me neither.

SPEAKER_01:

They talked to management. Who management shout out next man Dean is whack 100, bro? Boy, I want boy. You know how bad I want to cuss him outside today. Dean said plays that we don't know nothing about. No, I didn't know that, but yeah, we're gonna be able to do that. We love to be there, bro. Like, Dean, who the fuck are you booking? That's I mean, when did so how did it how the conversation go?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh man, I walked in, saw Dean spoke, saw Trey Benham, and then uh Trey Benham got right too. I mean, nigga, we on the flyer already. It's a flyer, yeah. It's not out yet, but it's made and we own it. Our name, not like our picture. Yeah, that's I mean that's cool. We we need to get some merch before then.

SPEAKER_01:

If we would have known, we probably could have. No, we got I mean, we got till February, yeah. I know I'm saying, but if we would have known ahead of time, we could have Dean. If we would have let us know, we could have started getting everything as soon as he said something. But yeah, no, so I'm with that for sure. We we definitely that's where we sting them. We definitely go do that though for sure. We can definitely get in there and do our thing.

SPEAKER_00:

But on a serious note, shout out to Black Bartow. Thank you for the thank you for thinking of us, like we greatly appreciate it, and we look forward to actually taking the show off the internet and uh interacting with the village, you know, like the people we do it for, and some of the people who don't even know that we exist. Hopefully, you know, we can make an imprint and uh you tune in.

SPEAKER_01:

That's real. That's real, that's real. Well, I'm about to say we we what you told the room. Uh I put it in the group. Well, you're the pushing it forward because I can call them. I'm about to say I didn't want to just go ahead and jump and get started because I definitely want to get uh touch on this next topic because it was actually one of them funny ones that really got my attention.

SPEAKER_00:

He might he might be hey uh we on. Don't say that, Rue. He put you in the box. Oh, oh yeah, we're my bad. Yeah, we we recording.

SPEAKER_02:

All right, huh?

SPEAKER_00:

It's already in the group text. I said he had asleep.

SPEAKER_01:

We can come back to that within about to say, I want to read.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah, he went out last night.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, okay, that makes sense. I I want to jump. Let's let's go to the bottom first and work work our way up.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah, yeah, let's start there.

SPEAKER_01:

Because I'm really I'm shout out to the Falcons, man. How do you feel about them? Uh we suck still, and I I'm I wasn't impressed. I mean, it was like it was two losing teams beating on each other, but it was the better losing team that won. And I mean, really, if being real, and I just and I have to call a spade a spade, if the Saints clear up a bunch of their mistakes, make some field goals, it's still a game, realistically. You know what I'm saying? Especially in the fourth quarter, it's still a game. And we didn't put it away for real until the moon ball. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like Kirk cousin. Am I a Kirk fan? I appreciate what he what he what he's doing for the team. Like when stepping in being a leader, getting everybody the ball. However, 180 million for what he's doing, absolutely not. You know, and I'm just not that impressed all around.

SPEAKER_00:

So I think Kirk Cousins played well. No Drake London. Uh bad team, yes. But I said this at the beginning of the season. I said, what if today Kirk Cousins healthy is better than Michael Penix? I understand you Michael Penix may be good enough. The team around Michael Penix may be good enough to carry. And you care about him long term and all that stuff, right? But Kirk Cousins, if he's healthy, he's probably better than Michael Penix. And we look at how the team started last year. Well, we were six and three through our first nine games. We see Kirk Cousins with a full week of practice. And oh my god, we're not in pistol, we're under center. And we're running play action pass and we're throwing from under center. The thing that Michael Penix couldn't do or can't do. Maybe Kirk getting hurt and then trying to play through it, and then Penix playing well enough last year, was why they didn't want us to see any of Penix, like even in preseason. Because maybe they wanted to continue develop to develop him to get him comfortable under center so they could run under center, pistol, gun, and keep the offense a bit more unpredictable.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. I can understand. I mean, I can definitely understand that because, like I said, it did look good to finally be able to get back under the center and not be in pistol for 52 plays. You know what I'm saying? And finally go gun every once. You know, we we we can move the ball around a lot more. We got Bijan, we got top, everybody was able to contribute a lot more, and especially with no, we didn't get to overpass uh overpass to uh Drake London the whole game, or we didn't have to make Penix forced a lot. Intentional ground, you know what I'm saying? He loves intentional ground to be core exactly. So it looked good. I mean, everybody like they want to be out there. We look home. Our defense is our defense, bro. I I I feel like we got personally the top three for real all season. Top three. I know we number two, right? In uh defense. I don't know where we are now, but I watch I watch us play every week. And I think the our defense is still number two, real, but overall, bro, I think it's just it was fun seeing Kurt this week. However, when we go play, I think it's next week or December 11th, excuse me. Whenever we go uh line up against Tampa Bay again, we're gonna get to see what's going on. I think um their defense is comparable to ours, and and their offense is actually better than ours, I believe, expect. But, you know, they just lost um they just lost the uh buddy. Yeah, Baker. Baker, yeah, they just lost Baker.

SPEAKER_00:

So right before the playoffs.

SPEAKER_01:

Exactly. That does it suck. That's your quarterback, right? One two teams. Yeah, but I mean, you know.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm in first place in the locker room league, by the way. That's cool. Um so what are your thoughts on hard R? Hard R the run right now. Coach was a good thing. Um, I'm do you think you should come back next year?

SPEAKER_01:

It's tough to say. It's tough to say. Right now, it's tough to say. I'm I'm kinda over it, but I don't want to give up. I guess if that's the right.

SPEAKER_00:

You don't want to be the nigga saying fire that nigga.

SPEAKER_01:

Nah, because I don't mind saying it. I don't mind saying it. It's just right now we gave him we gave him two full seasons, right? This is a second season. That's what I'm saying. At the end of this is gonna be a second full season. I feel like I just don't, I don't know. I don't know what else he can give us. You know what I'm saying? Like being real, I don't know what else he can. I don't really ever see him get pissed off. I like a like a quarter, I like a coach to get pissed off. I like him that's gonna really, you know, get what it pierced. Oh, I like somebody who gets extra. He's watching the show. Oh, yeah. I like somebody who gets aggressive sometimes. I don't like somebody who just keeps sitting around and wanting to look cool on camera. He ain't knocked, ain't, ain't, ain't knocking no water, no juice or nothing over there. You know what I ain't did nothing. It's just tough for me, bro. It's real, it's tough right now.

SPEAKER_00:

So I say they fired that nigga. I'm really curious how he got the job. Like, what did what did Raheem Morris do that was better than Bill Belichick, better than Jim Harbaugh, better than Mike Brabel, better than Ben Johnson.

SPEAKER_01:

I feel like he fit it in the when he came on. I feel like he fit the the whole look for Atlanta at that time. Like, I feel like he fit the look. We've I feel like he would have had the young the younger guys was able to to adjust the oh because he delivered, uh yeah, but then again, it's like and with Belichick coming here, is Belichick in this no disrespect, you know, so and this is a real question. Is Belichick established without TV?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, so he's the yeah, yeah, yeah. He drafted Tom Brady, uh, he helped develop Tom Brady. And what made Tom Brady such a great quarterback was that those two would go back and forth. Like if Brady did something, Belichick would break down to him how he would attack it with his defense. So that's how Tom Brady learned how to break down defense is by learning how to break down Bill Belichick's defense, and he's the greatest defensive mind football has ever seen. So it is so all the it it's a marriage. Like, understand, Tom Brady was a game manager when he started, you know, get the ball to receiver, they but they ran the ball, played defense, played special teams. Then he was airing that bitch out as he got as he developed, but like he had all those years to develop, and they give him a little piece, give him a little piece, give him a little piece, and then he finally could go get him a whole pizza, like you do when you go to Lil' Seasons for sure.

SPEAKER_01:

So I get it. So I mean, but then again, I just don't know. I feel like I don't know that that's that's that was the only question I was asking. Then Mike Vape, Mike Brabel, what he doing, what he doing out there is it's solid, you know. Because again, I wasn't thinking, I didn't think it was gonna be nothing realistic.

SPEAKER_00:

I didn't think they were gonna be this good. Exactly.

SPEAKER_01:

That's what I said. I wasn't thinking they was gonna be nothing. So I don't know. No, we got Raheem the Rara guy, hard R. I feel like Raheem in the beginning, though, he fit the mode for sure. Like he fit it.

SPEAKER_00:

He he fit the city, yeah. That's the problem with the Falcons. They just want to fit the city, they want to have Travis Porter come perform, Bone Crush, a little scrappy, Goldberg, three dollar hot dogs. You know what I mean? Uh we got uh the swag surfing niggas there every every week, you know. Shout out to Arthur for being the stimulus check. Because I'm sure a lot of these people need it. Um but they be too focused on the the culture of the city, not the the co uh the culture of the football program.

SPEAKER_01:

But you gotta remember the culture of the city is what pay uh what pay Arthur. That's the one that was bringing everything in.

SPEAKER_00:

When when Matt Ryan was here and had this thing humming, he was not the culture of the city.

SPEAKER_01:

That's a fact.

SPEAKER_00:

And a lot of niggas didn't like Matty Ice, that's a fact. They turned on him, but you know what he was doing, he was getting us to the playoffs consistently early in his career with game-winning drives. Now we he we couldn't accept him the way we needed to because he wasn't Vic. He wasn't Vic, and that was fresh off of Vic. But don't you miss Matt Ryan? Imagine Matt Ryan with this team that we got right now. I ain't bro, we can't I ain't doing that because again, Matt.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, Julio, yeah, Roddy, yeah, Tony Guzari.

SPEAKER_00:

I got you, but with this running back with Drake London, Drake London like is a top 10 receiver, he just don't get credit because he plays for the Falcons. With Matt Ryan with this defense, Julio Jones was a top two receiver all time. I got you, but I'm saying the the team in itself, having a weapon, having the running back, have I mean, and with Kyle Pitts was good with Matt Ryan his rookie year. But then having that defense, haven't Matt Ryan having that defense, he rarely had weapon defense in running game. We didn't even have a great defense or Super Bowl year. We just get up and get a pass rush. So Matt Ryan with this team, a team that give up 20, 24 a game, he's gonna get you to 28.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know, bro. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I I like you know, I'm still I'm a Matt fan. I'm always with him. But it's kind of like I'm just nah, I just wasn't after I don't know, bro. I can't really, I can't really say. I can't really say. I feel like Matt and Kurt are close to being the same people.

SPEAKER_00:

Matt Ryan is MVP. He he again got us to the playoffs consistently. Now the end of his career when he was done, it looked terrible. But that wasn't what Matt Ryan was to the city. We were consistent attender for the NFC NFC side.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, yeah, the Matt win MVP.

SPEAKER_00:

2016 Super Bowl, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, that is ooh. Nick used to give you fits. He was the real number three. He used to give me fits in what? Uh nothing. Nothing. Hear me. No, yeah, no. But yeah, nah. Also, in football, shout out my boy Shadir. See what I'm saying? Shout out Shadur. He looked like a dog out there. He said, give him the time, the perfect timing.

SPEAKER_00:

He said he we'll get to yeah, we'll get to that a little bit later, but he said a little too much. But I'm I'm happy for him.

SPEAKER_01:

What you what'd he say? What'd he say? No, hell no. I don't like how you get that started and don't get all the way to the point. What'd he say?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh I don't really know. I can't do his voice. I haven't studied enough to get his cadence down right, yeah. Um, but uh, you know, he said that was just for one week of preparation. Imagine a whole offseason. You know what I'm saying? Uh that's just like Shador. I I come on, bro. Why are you throwing shots at the coach for not starting you? Well, nah, nah. That's the coach. That's the guy who controls if you get to start.

SPEAKER_01:

I get it.

SPEAKER_00:

But come on, man. How can you don't do it in the media?

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, I get it. I get what you're saying.

SPEAKER_00:

Stand in the locker room when the cameras ain't in there.

SPEAKER_01:

No, bro. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_00:

But don't do that, like you're not in a in a position to dictate anything.

SPEAKER_01:

I don't know. I don't know, bro. Because again, I hear you, and I definitely agree. You're absolutely right on that. But then again, to make this man wait till week 13, 14, he eat him and he done been riding a bench out, ain't said a word, been quiet. Now he finally got out there and he ball out. Come on, man, you gotta give him something. Y'all done move, y'all done put two quarterbacks in front of him.

SPEAKER_00:

L Joe Flacco was better than him for sure. And Dylan Gabriel was drafted before him. So, in their estimation, he was better than him.

SPEAKER_01:

I get it, but no, but if when we're talking about in practice, though, Miles Garrett said that uh Miles Garrett said himself, Shador was the best quarterback out there in front of Jay Flacco and uh Well, Miles Garrett, he gets 40 million a year, you know that right.

SPEAKER_00:

And he and he just signed a new contract. So Miles Garrett can say whatever the hell he wants. But he can be but hold on, he can be telling the truth. Shador could have very well been the best quarterback day one. But for people to keep their jobs, the third round pick has to get a chance before the fifth round pick. Because the people who liked the third round pick, whether it's the coach, whether it's one of the scouts, the GM, whoever it was that liked him, is in who in the decision maker's ear saying whatever needs to be said. Because if this guy sucks and Shador is better, it's like, well, hold on. Why do we even waste a draft pick on this guy if we know if this guy's better, we got him later. We could have got a starter in the third round, like a day one starter in the third round. But answer this money drown. So people are trying to protect their jobs.

SPEAKER_01:

But answer this ain't the NFL a business. Yeah. All right, cool. Who had the who had the number one selling jersey in the NFL this season? Uh, I don't know. Shador has the number one selling uh jersey in the NFL in uh his well, excuse me, I ain't gonna say in the whole league, but I know when that whole draft class and I don't know how everybody, he has the number one selling jersey. If that's the case, you go with who's selling. If that's the case, you know it would be Sean Watson being out.

SPEAKER_00:

But the football people, uh-huh, they don't care about the business, they care about the football and they care about keeping their job. So they are going to say things to the football decision makers to inform to make them look good. I understand what you're saying about the money, but the only people caring about the money are the is the owner and the people on the business side of the house. Football coach ain't worried about that. He's worried about football. The GM. I know he understands money because he has to balance the salary cap, but the salary cap is the salary cap, and he knows they have that much money to spend. So he's not worried about how we're making money, he's worried about the roster. So the football people, I'm sure, could give a shit less about the guy with the jersey sales, but the guy who said, Hey, this is why we we wanted Dylan Gabriel, is saying we got to play Dylan Gabriel, and when he's not playing well, well, this is blah blah blah. And then if Shador does something, oh man, you see that old man. Shador is just doing this, he's not even taking it seriously. Like, people do stuff to try to build a narrative to validate their existence because nobody wants to pull their kid out of private school and lose that six-figure or seven-figure job, depending on who you are.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and I I can understand that too, but I feel like the reason Shador can do that is because Dylan Gabriel, in no disrespect, because I don't know his parents or his family life, but I know he didn't come in the league like Shador is. He didn't come in with already chips and dip, N I L D, my daddy D. I'm solidified. I got my jersey sales high. Like I can be like this because again, I'm not saying in no disrespect, but again, he I'm not saying he's playing for a check. He's not playing for an NFL check, dude playing because he loved the game. You can tell after this week, you see how effortless it was for him to get out here and ball. Like, not saying nothing wrong with Dylan Gabriel because I actually like him too. Oh, I think he's terrible. I know I like it, I like his play. I ain't gonna say nothing. I like his play.

SPEAKER_00:

I think Dylan Gabriel's terrible. I I wouldn't draft Dylan Gabriel, like no, no, no, like that why not because he's five foot eleven. Is he? Yeah, he's short, he doesn't have a strong arm, he's like he's lesser than Tua. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Is five eleven facts? Let me see. Yes, Dylan Gabriel's a midget, he doesn't look like an NFL player. It's one thing to roll the dice like that on Tua because it was tank for Tua. Tua was a top prospect, but I'm not doing that for Dylan Gabriel. I'm not putting my job on the line for Dylan Gabriel. If I'm Kevin Stefansky, hell no, we're not drafting this kid. He's undersized. Where did he come from? He's Hawaiian.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Same pipeline as Tua.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, it's 5'11.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

No, I damn sure didn't know that. I damn sure didn't know that at all.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you're probably a larger human being than Dylan Gabriel, like height and weight. I'm not calling you fat, but it's not. No, it's not a fat joke. I'm just saying. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_01:

I get it though.

SPEAKER_00:

You're not an NFL player.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, facts. Facts.

SPEAKER_00:

You shouldn't walk in a room. Yeah, he'd be cut up, but like you shouldn't walk in a room. Man, bigger than a quarterback. Come on now.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

No, I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, he's a shrimp. He probably walking around forever.

SPEAKER_01:

Probably 187.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm about to say 190. 187. He might not right now. I'm 172. Yeah. He might side four months ago.

SPEAKER_03:

190.

SPEAKER_00:

It's proportioned differently, but still. Same amount of mass. What the fuck are you doing in the NFL playing quarterback? You can't see over six six, left tackle, right tackle.

SPEAKER_01:

Coming from that blind side.

SPEAKER_00:

Come on. Imagine me standing behind Roof. Yeah. With trails back.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I can't see shit. And you want me to throw the ball at somebody 40 yards away? And then somebody else that's roof size with trails back is in front of you?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Chasing me.

SPEAKER_01:

I damn sure know you.

SPEAKER_00:

Nah. Come on, bruh. Like, you ain't risking your job on him. At least your door is ideal size. He got he has the arm. He has the anticipation. He may not be the best on the board. I he may not be the best cognitively.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Because the way he talks is I know he's Dion's son, and we don't want to, but you know. It appears that it takes his thoughts longer to go from brain to brain. I mean, it's like uh yeah, but Charles Barclays is fluid, you know, like he's country and you can see him loading, but it's still fluid, like he has a fluid cadence. You can listen to Charles Barclay talk.

SPEAKER_01:

That's who we I mean, but that's who should do remind me of. Like a like a new school Charles Barclay, as slow as him. Uh you got that drag to all his words type shit.

SPEAKER_00:

You know how we were in school and you had students in your class, but they had a teacher.

SPEAKER_03:

Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

You're still fully functioning. But you know, you don't you on dialogue and we on Wi-Fi. That's all.

SPEAKER_01:

I take a little bit longer.

SPEAKER_00:

That's what he gives me the mind of. And I'm not trying to be funny, I'm just really trying. Like, I don't know a better way to describe it so that people will understand exactly what I mean.

SPEAKER_01:

Me, I help it out. So, meaning if he couldn't, if he couldn't throw the ball 80 yards down the field, he they wouldn't look at it and say, he would if he couldn't throw the ball down the field, he wouldn't deal as the son. Yeah, I get it. I get it.

SPEAKER_00:

He'd still be a hell of a football player, but it's just but some of that, and I think some of that stuff that they want a quarterback to show that's not on the field, yeah, that give again people protecting their job. Because you can't just say, I mean, look at the film. We met with him. Yeah, he wasn't great on the whiteboard, but he understands the concepts, right? He he knows what he's doing, and some of this is he has a feel for the game, he's not structured, which is how Shador plays. I think one of the issues he had with Stefansky was Stefansky wants the offense to be ran a certain way. Dylan Gabriel is that type of quarterback who will catch boom boom here, catch boom, boom there. By the book type, yeah. Shador, he might hit that back leg, and something is open, but he wants something else, and he's gonna roll out and go get it, like he did on that play, on that one big play. You know what I'm saying? Uh-huh. Some coaches don't want that, so again, that's another reason why he may not have played, but also another reason why he could have dropped because some of that stuff does not transfer over to nerds trying to put something on paper that you can't really put on paper. Facts, facts, yes. And he's Deon Sun, he's rich, he's famous, and he does all this stuff. He's probably annoying as hell.

SPEAKER_01:

Already, a Cartier Rolex, all that before we even before we even get a chick in the interview.

SPEAKER_00:

Now think about it. Think about him coming to interview. You're interviewing him to see if you want if you want this person to work for your company, yeah. And he flips it on you as like I'm interviewing you, but also speaking the way that he y'all do for me, yeah. Like and but also speaking the way that he speaks, probably iced out, he didn't work out, none of that stuff, right? Yeah, but would you really want to hire that guy?

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I mean, I mean that's why I say it's different though. Like I say, I understand what you're saying in that point. Is let's say if that guy is trying to come sell cars, yeah, it's different compared to when you have a lifelong teacher, coach, boss, whatever, as your dad come and you're coming to play football.

SPEAKER_00:

But what if I don't want your dad and what your dad is teaching you and preaching you to influence what we're trying to preach and teach you? Then because your dad could be doing what's best for you in your career in your long term, right? But that may not be what's best for the team today, or selfishly, me the coach and my job. Your dad may say, Hey, don't let them dumb down the offense, don't let them have you read just one side of the field because you need to learn how to read the full field. And the coach is like, I'm on the hot seat, I need you to do what you're good at so that we can move the ball and win games. I don't I can't develop you this year.

SPEAKER_01:

No, I get now. I I mean I definitely get what you're saying for sure, but that's why I say it's like it's at some point. I didn't know like I didn't know I didn't know if Shador was if they were just like trying to gaslight him and trying to keep him on the sideline or what it really was because it there's no way they thought Dylan Gabriel was a better player than Shador. And I wasn't even trying to shit on him, but when you said it, it was actually my thought, but I didn't want to say I don't think Dylan, I don't think Dylan Gabriel's god awful.

SPEAKER_00:

I think he's I think he's as as a pro, not as a as a as percentage of people playing quarterback in the world, yeah, top top of the top of the world. Yeah, but I'm saying as a pro in comparison to his peers. Facts.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, I got you. I got you.

SPEAKER_00:

But yeah, bro, it's the politics of it. You remember that there were guys who should have played in high school, but they may have come from a different family, or they had a parent that would get right with the coach, and somebody else is a hard worker. Oh man, he's finishing the drill, you know, a couple late hits in practice. He's slow as hell, but he's but like at the end of sprints, he just pass out every time and throwing up looking like he pushed himself harder than everybody. But really, this nigga's trash and he's out of shape, and he's really just out of shape. That's uh yeah, like he does other shit on the weekend. Yeah, you shouldn't be, but the coaches love him, and we all like man, we don't even fuck with this nigga, and he ain't better than our nigga that ain't getting burned. Yeah, this is some bullshit, but the politics are the politics, and we in the locker room know what's up. That's probably the same thing going on there, yeah. I think sometimes like people and like people on podcasts, people on TV, when they start talking about this stuff, they don't like put themselves in those types of situations. And yeah, we've never played in the NFL, but we played high school football in Georgia. Even if your program is trash, people care, it's a thing. So there's locker room politics, nigga. It's captains that don't lead shit on the team, they just yell at practice, and everybody like, bruh, shut your ass up. Your bitch ass up. It's the niggas like they be showing all the pregame speeches and stuff before the game from the coaches and the players. I be like, hold on, dog. I remember these speeches now. I remember being like, you don't shut your ass up, man. Nobody wanna hear all that shit. You say the same shit every week. Sorry, y'all. Uh this is what happens. You gotta like freestyle a show because uh guests cancel on you.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh it's just we we we're gonna figure it out though. Because again, we you know we did that's oh fuck it. We gotta speak on that. Yeah, no, we we are in the middle, we did have to throw this show together, and we we had other plans for this show, y'all. Everything else is supposed to be a whole different way, and it's just you know rappers do what rappers do. That I'm telling you, it's it's part of the business. No, he's gonna we gonna make it up. We're gonna make it up. It's a big storm going on, so you know. That's why we started the show off with rain. You know what I'm saying? It's a big show, it's a big storm going on.

SPEAKER_00:

So speaking of big storm, you see Lizzo big ass talking stupid on the internet? No, what are you talking about? Oh man, you don't keep up with Lizzo. Fuck no. Are you attracted to Lizzo?

SPEAKER_01:

Are you fucking attracted to Lizzo?

SPEAKER_00:

No, all right.

SPEAKER_01:

Well then that answered both our questions.

SPEAKER_00:

But I know I I know some guys who are attracted to Lizzo.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, I'm not saying they ain't. Because again, to each his own, it's probably a bunch of guys attracted to Lizzo. It's just you know.

SPEAKER_00:

So uh Lizzo says Ozempic is erasing big girls in society. We're in an era where bigger girls are getting smaller because they're tired of being judged. What that means. So, in an essay, she explains that she loves being a big girl, but she's becoming concerned that a lot of women are turning towards Ozempic to change their appearance because of the pressures of society. She claims that now there aren't as many big girls in the entertainment and modeling industry because everyone is taking weight loss drugs and is starting to erase heavier girls. So here we are, halfway through the decade where extended sizes are being magically erased from websites, plus size models are no longer getting booked for modeling gigs, and of our big girls are not so big anymore. We have a lot of work to do to undo the effects of the Ozipic boom.

SPEAKER_01:

So, how come there's more? Oh, okay. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_00:

Willow then gave details about how she decided to start losing weight. She always she has always been a proud bit girl and still is, but she realized that a lot of people didn't recognize her talents because of her weight and it made her sad. Then in 2023, she went through severe depression and was deeply suicidal, which inspired her to start taking her weight seriously. She claims though through therapy, she realized that she was hiding behind her weight and using it as a mask. A big ass mask. From that day on, she decided to start losing weight the healthy way and take back control of her life. Lastly, people could not see my talent as a musician because they were too busy accusing me of making being fat my whole personality, she wrote. And that's the reality that nobody wants to talk about. She continued, we're in an era where the bigger girls are getting smaller because they're tired of being judged. I want us to allow the body positive movement to expand and grow far away from commercial slopits become because the movements move. Thoughts?

SPEAKER_01:

No. Oh, I mean, like it's it's so, so what I'm saying, so you're confused, right? Yes, I'm sounds like she's talking out of both sides of her neck, right? So are they supposed so that's how big girls just are are big girls supposed to stay big or not, they're not supposed to want to lose weight because they don't they want to be healthier, or or or should they stay big because it's losing big girls?

SPEAKER_00:

I'm gonna make this simpler for you. Okay. When Lizzo speaks, you don't listen. What the fuck? That's all I'm saying. If she sings, tune in. She's talented. Big B should sing. What song do Lizzo sing? Not my ministry, but she had one. You know that's it. Uh-uh. I'm about to play. Oh my god, what is Lizzo's biggest song? Don't put out her top songs. Okay. What's the name of that book?

SPEAKER_01:

I do know that song, good as hell.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I do. I do.

SPEAKER_03:

I do my hair top chicken.

SPEAKER_00:

It's some type of shit that you hear at a bar in San Diego. Yeah, for sure. And you dance with a white woman. And you kiss him in the mouth. No, I don't do that. You kiss him in the mouth. That's a lie, but back to Lizzo. You know, she talks about her weight blocked, like she got serious about her weight loss because it was blocking her talent. Her weight never blocked her talent, her mouth blocked her talent. Because she always talked about being big and how she loved her body and body. Yo, dog, you ain't gotta say I love something all the time to tell somebody that you love it. It damn near makes me believe that you're overcompensating. Even in a relationship, I gotta tell you I love you all the time. Because if I love you, I'm gonna show you. Yeah, actions are trying to do it. I'm trying, yes.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Now, don't get me wrong, words of affirmation are important. Yes, you should tell your partner you love him. Yeah, but don't ask me to tell you I love you. Don't ask for that. You shouldn't have to. Now, if I'm not showing, if you don't feel love, say hey baby, I'm not feeling love. Don't say, damn, you ain't even say I love you. So now I gotta say it.

SPEAKER_01:

Now I feel the type way if I don't say it type. You didn't even mean it.

SPEAKER_00:

But you're gonna be even more mad if I don't say it. Yeah, facts. Sorry, we're not here to bash women, we're to bash Liz though. Facts. So, what is your what are your thoughts on the body positivity movement? Embracing all body size, you must be real, bruh.

SPEAKER_01:

I've always been I'm just pro be happy who you are. I don't give a damn about all that other shit. Like, if you're happy in a big girl skin, rock that out. If you're happy in in the slimmer girl skin, rock that out, but don't try to force your lifestyle on somebody else when you want to change it. Because again, if you look at this shit, Lizo was the same person that was telling everybody she loved being big, she loved being out in the little bitty clothes and stomach out doing all that good shit. But now she's saying that she wants you to that she embracing the gym and depression, oh excuse me, the gym and working out and losing her weight and all this and that. And she's trying to put not saying force it, but she's trying to speak that in, and you just ain't gotta do all that. Live, do what you want to do for you, and you know, if if you get some followers in the in in the cross of doing that, ride them out. But you ain't gotta keep talking and preaching to us about trying to be healthy. If we want to eat a cheeseburger every day, all day, that's our decision. If we want cheese cake at nighttime, four or five in the morning, that's our decision. It's key lime. I'm a key lime guy. If we want whatever you prefer, you rock out how you rock out, but you don't need nobody criticizing and judging how you move, that'd be dumb as hell.

SPEAKER_00:

That's my opinion. Yeah, and if she really wanted to talk about body positivity, and yeah, I do think we have an Olympic problem. Like, I think people should use Ozimpic for its medical uses, you should get it prescribed by a doctor, not just the online bullshit. That just my thoughts, not a medical professional, but I think people should be more intentional with losing weight because it's not about losing weight, it's about having a healthy lifestyle and healthy habits. But if she really wanted to get into body positivity and the lack of body positivity going on, she should have attacked the BBL epidemic.

SPEAKER_01:

I was literally just about to say that. So the the fact of her saying that, how can you speak on somebody using Ozimpic, but you ain't saying nothing about folks who want to do the BBL or get the uh get the uh the fat, that's the BBL as well, but they want to get the tummy tubs, the mommy made the nose job, all that good stuff, the contouring, everybody trying to look like a Kardashian. Because one thing about it though, one thing about it, and just being real, when you super duper big, like no disrespect to Lizzo. If you super duper big like Lizzo, she's gonna have to get some surgery because again, when you lose all that weight and you get that soft skin, you gotta get the if you in the and that's only if you in the light, you it'll take you a little bit longer, but I mean you can you know bring it together, but at first, gonna be you know oatmeal pies, yeah, and that's the way it is.

SPEAKER_00:

And let's be real, the oatmeal pies are the reason for these high-waisted leggings. Well, I know that well, the foopas, too. Yeah, because hey, look here. Back in the day, when you wore your leggings, I remember low rise jeans. That's a nasty era, especially when the tongue would be up above like right above the way the low rise jeans. But you know, it used to be a privilege to be a girl who could wear low rise jeans. It was a privilege to be able to wear the leggings and wear your sports bra and nothing. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, because you worked hard for your body, but what body positivity did, and what this shit Lizzo's talking about, we accepted nothing, and now we no longer have a standard. So now we got big sloppies, we got Ozimpic, and we got BBL. What about this natural? You might have a little Fupa, but you ain't gotta be big as hell.

SPEAKER_01:

But real niggas like foopas too, though. I ain't gonna tell you like we a lot of us we love foopas. A lot of us we love that stomach, that extra stomach.

SPEAKER_00:

Did I say anything bad about foops?

SPEAKER_01:

I ain't say you did. And I kept bringing, I just kept bringing up foopa too. That's why, and you keep saying foop, and you keep saying that specific word. So that's why I'm saying we a lot of us we love the foops. I know it's before that foop ass is different though.

SPEAKER_00:

But go ahead, but you but it's like let's have the real conversation about what's going on, and and the true body positivity is it's not just embracing all bodies, it's you embracing your body and doing what you need to get the body that you want. I'm not gonna criticize everybody for getting plastic surgery. You might have something on your body that you're not okay with, but then I would counter you with and say, Well, why are you not okay with it? You know what I mean? Like TLC, you can buy your hair if it won't grow, you can fix your nose if it's slow, you can buy all the makeup a man can make. But if you can look inside you, find out something onto being this make you feel today. You know what I'm saying? But no, it's the whole thing. Like, look inside, like what inside of you has you so bothered by whatever your body is, whatever your body is doing, that you're not comfortable. Like me, when I get a little too round, I get insecure. I don't feel like myself, I don't feel good about myself. So when I get a little round and y'all start making fun of me, I lose weight and I start to feel better. I'm the same person, but for me, I know what it is. I just don't I don't feel pretty when I'm when I'm when I'm big. I understand that.

SPEAKER_01:

I understand. Me, I feel like I ain't never had that goddamn problem because again, that's why I feel you, I'm so comfortable in my skin, bro. It's like I've always been the one that even then, like even now, I was the fat kid that was going to the that was going to the uh pool taking my shirt off. Like I knew can I knew it, I knew it was gonna get titty jokes, I knew it was gonna get all those. That's cool, but it's the fact of I just you only can jump personally on one good thing, and that's what it is, and that's just what it is. If you can keep going on more shit, then now you just want to join. Now you just want to keep going, you want to try and tack. And if that's the case, then now you just gotta fight fire with fire. And I feel like that's my only thing. I've never been, I guess, in that headspace to where I can say, you know, a motherfucker can just say just certain things, I guess, that it would trigger me and throw me all the way off. Only and that could be because I've I was bullied my whole life, you know what I'm saying? Like literally, and it's fucked up, but it's like it's literally that could be the thing. It's like when you grow up with sisters like I did, you grow up in the environment with older folks, with my sisters thinking I can hang with them, but then now they treat me like them, and shit be differently, so you know it's just that's I guess that could be the thing.

SPEAKER_00:

But this right here was a productive body positivity conversation, right? You talked about how you embrace your body, I talk about what it takes for me to embrace mine, right? And uh yeah, it's an insecurity, but for me, I know it and I deal with it. And I'm willing to do the work to be the person I want to be, to make myself happy, and that's what it's all about being happy in the skin that you're in, not chasing a a look that's not you, like that. That's my that's that's where I get weird about the cosmetic surgery and shit. You know what I'm saying? Like I get trying to improve yourself, but you don't even look the same, like that's not you, you know what I mean? Like, you don't have a big ass, you don't have to have a big ass to get fucked. Yeah, I mean, you don't have abs. It's okay, dog. You ain't gotta get them shits like stenciled on, bro.

SPEAKER_01:

Speaking of those, you think Desi got real abs, or do you think he worked for those? No homo, only because I've I looked in Desi two months ago was BJ, and now I look back the other week and I keep saying, like, these niggas able to get six packs, and they even getting the side joints to where I'm like, bruh, no, hell no, I work too hard to get these sides, and these folks ain't doing that in a in a in a two-month span. You gotta have good dieting, you gotta work out hard as hell. Lee, you know that. So it's like, bruh, I don't know, bro. I don't, but go ahead, my boy.

SPEAKER_00:

I ain't had I ain't had side abs since I was like 20. You never had side abs. You know what I'm saying? Like when you young and you skinny and you and you are decently physically fit and work out, you have them. But like to have lost them, I don't even want to get side abs.

SPEAKER_01:

Shit work, boy. That shit work, you gotta work Lee.

SPEAKER_00:

You gotta eat good, you gotta drink water, and if you are drinking, you gotta burn that many more cats, bro. I'm not doing what it takes to have five abs. You know what I'm saying? After our bet, I don't wanna have I don't gotta have a six pack ever again, but you know what I mean. Like, I I work on my abs because it's it's important to have a strong core, yeah. But I I I can take my shirt off, you know what I'm saying? And that's all you want, yeah. Like I don't I don't need abs, and most of the time I just want to look good in my clothes because most of you can't see what's underneath.

SPEAKER_01:

That's all you need, and I'll be showing which now I ain't gonna tell you now that I got these tattoos. Oh, I'm wearing them even harder. Oh god, listen, I wear these tattoos like it's like it's a part of my skin. I mean, oh that was fucking stupid. Like it was a part of my outfit. Excuse me. Like it's my outfit every day, if that's the case, bro. Legit. Why did you get tattoos? Really? That's a good question, actually. I was sad. Legit, I was sad as I was sad and I wanted to just, you know, change up my, I guess, look, my vibe, my everything.

SPEAKER_00:

So kind of like breezy after Rihanna.

SPEAKER_01:

That's funny. But kinda legit, bro. Like, not it was I when you going through a sad stage, then I'm going through like trying to figure out who VJ is now, and then still trying to figure out Bill's life, adjusting, uh being a dad, you know what I'm saying? All that still. It was like, fuck it. Let's let's let's go all the way in. I grew my hair out, started with, I've never reminded you, I've never had hell before in my life.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_01:

I've never had hell, so it's like I wanted to change it. I want to change the whole look, bro. I wanted to do something different, and I blamed a big part of I blamed a big part of my tattoo phase on Wiz Khalifa too, like going through that and Chris Gamble. Me and Chris Gamble and Catelyn Catelyn Gamble as well. We was going through just like they was with me damn near every day. We was, you know, getting tuned in. And we just said, fuck it. We just start going, bro.

SPEAKER_00:

Then years later, then it hell that you had a tattoo gun in your living room.

SPEAKER_01:

Mm-hmm. And then years later, that's when it just baby mama just started, she became an artist. And then the end it was just like, you know what, now fuck it. Let's it's game time. Now I can really get flooded. And so I still don't like tattoos though. Being real, like I'm one of those guys, I absolutely hate a tattoo. It hurt, it's annoying, it's it's it's just not what I like. Really? And you're just getting stabbed on getting poked a million times in uh second, just stabbed on nonstop, leaked in permanently. That's crazy, yeah. But that's exactly what it is for sure.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, no, I got I got tattoos because of my dad. And then to also kind of rebel. My dad got tattoos, I want to be like my daddy.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, is he flooded?

SPEAKER_00:

He's flooded, but he got tattoos. Yeah, word, word, word, and then kind of bro. You know that like uh a lot of people just see me as straight laced, and I'm not as straight-laced as people think I am, but I'm not as wild as some people think I am. And it's it's fight, it's just like fighting that. Like I you know, I fight the straight-laced image every day, and tattoos was a part of it. That's real though, and also tell a story, like it's like like what I actually do for the tattoos, you know, that sincere things that matter.

SPEAKER_01:

But just being real, you you was in that era of like when you was in the military, yeah. You was in that first era when like y'all was able to start getting tattoos, right? That was at the end, that's when I started getting my like you were a part of the first crew to be able to start getting tattoos and shit in there, right?

SPEAKER_00:

In the Marine Corps, so in 2010, they changed the tattoo policy. That's when I got my scholarship. So I came in under the new policy where you could only have like four visible tattoos in uniform and it couldn't be the certain places. So that's one reason why I didn't get a lot of tattoos early. And then I started I got a few, and but I mean my first well, no, I had the lower I had some arm shit. But then uh once then they changed the policy. I think when I was in Monterey to where you could sleeve up, so then I just started getting lower arm tattoos.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, that's all right. So that was like your second, um, your second go-round, right? Third. Third, okay.

SPEAKER_00:

And then when I moved to Albany, is when I started coming to Carter's done getting tattoos. Facts, facts, facts. And I had a kid and hadn't got one since.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, then on that, then let's because you know, I I I you know, we gotta I gotta hit it tomorrow. So I want to ask you this to wrap up. Let me ask you this because you've been you just spoke on going a being able to go all these different places. What's one thing? What's one in particular? Oh no, don't even say one. What'll make somebody get on your do not travel with again list? Like, give me give me a list of some of those.

SPEAKER_00:

Don't want to do nothing while we're there, I just want to sit around and do shit we can do at home. Okay. Uh talk too much. If it's like a uh a chick, talk too fucking much. Okay. I'm I'm stuck here with you. Can't really escape you. Don't get on my fucking nerves. Um, not being honest about your financial standing. That that'll get you on the do not travel list. Um that wouldn't even a shot. That wasn't a shot at all. I wouldn't even I wasn't even thinking about that. Like as I started saying it, I thought about it, but it kind of still holds true in that situation as well. Yeah. Um but but um I I was thinking about I was thinking about a broad who who like showed up for five days with three days worth of money.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh so she was two days asked out, dear what you said.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh god.

SPEAKER_00:

He had to eat whatever I cooked. Yeah. Oh god. Oh, you're not gonna pay for me to do this? No, I don't want to do it. So, and then uh bullshitting, making me late. And if you a man, not being able to do what needs to be done if niggas is working. And I ain't saying you gotta be able to crack nut, and I ain't saying you gotta be on it. But like if if a vibe is caught with a group, you need to just be able to be in a conversation, do what you need to do. I know you know some niggas got girls and don't cheat.

SPEAKER_01:

So clear that wait, just clear it. So he he gotta be, you need somebody that can be a certified wing man, even if they're a wing.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I'm just saying, like say if it's if it's five of us, five of them, three niggas in relationships, two niggas trying to cook something. Somebody gotta keep these buzzers occupied. Cause then they're gonna be coming to get all the goddamn meat, and then ain't nobody gonna get full. You know what I'm saying? I'm trying to fill something up, yeah. Because y'all gonna start hating and being like, oh blah blah blah, but you really just mad because your friend going and you already called this nigga, but you was over there bullshitting, and so sparked up a conversation. Uh-uh, uh.

SPEAKER_01:

Why do you call them buzzards?

SPEAKER_00:

Because that's what because they just they just flying looking for per looking for for dead meat, looking for dead meat to go to go put their mouth on, you know what I'm saying? And eat. That's what they're trying to do. Looking for dead meat. Oh, yeah, and last thing, uh, if you are a man and you uh fuck up a nigga getting some ass, you can't travel with me no more. And I ain't talking about like you talking too much, or you just you just do I ain't talking about shit like that. Yeah, I mean like clear blocking. Yeah, like a nigga running the ISO and you call for the ball. Oh shit. And a nigga cooking, you know what I'm saying? You standing in the paint won't get to the corner. Yeah, knowing that you got you. Or you laying in the bed and both of y'all in y'all drawers, big spoon and a nigga come running the room. So and then don't leave.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, so a nigga to come in and just sit in there and talk. No, you wanna be in there.

SPEAKER_00:

Now, granted, security came to the hotel, but he came and ran in the room and jumped in the bed. And then when security left, he stayed. So you know I'm already mad that he came in there, but I get it, you're running so security don't catch you. Cool. But once you hear that door close, this door needs to be opening and closing. And don't take too long because I will fall asleep. Okay, it's not a true story.

SPEAKER_01:

I made all of it up. Well, we're gonna talk off L2B. So, but anyway, I think my do not travel list, it'll definitely be. I like if we talk, I'm gonna go gotta go two different areas too. I'm going friends-wise, but for my friends, my friends know how we roll when you with me. We don't do no overstunting, we won't do all the extra gangster stories, we don't do all the I but you can chain gang nigga to my hook to my Airbnb. He's gonna be he ain't doing nobody, he's gonna be super cool. He's gonna die behind everybody with us. That's why I'm saying he was super cool. Everybody that's with me every time they're gonna be the same guy. But what I mean when I say overly stunned, you're not gonna be the nigga that how you say if the bitch is out, or excuse me, excuse me. Let me if the girls is out and somebody over there working, ain't none of our guys gonna be the one that's gonna pop up. Hey, but you need to hold some, you know. You I got I got I got the money. If we need to, we'll go get a like we ain't gotta do all that. You don't never do all it that's over stunning, but like that's just way too much.

SPEAKER_00:

Bro, if a nigga ever did that, oh hold on. If a nigga ever did that to me, excuse me, ladies.

SPEAKER_01:

Nigga, what the fuck is that's why I'm saying that we don't do all that, but that's why I say stuff like that over stunning, over trying to shine. Um, I don't like got my guys to be, I guess, extra in you and Dean got this really bad. I don't like when my guys try to always feel like they gotta go walk off and get in the middle of the crowd. Like I got me personally, I'm one of those guys that I like when my and this is not a do not travel, but this just if we're on vacation or if we out and we don't like the anyway, you don't you don't never want niggas to break from the crew. That's stupid because again, especially when you ain't in your personal vibe. When y'all, if we buy a section, first of all, too. We got a section, we got bottles, we got drink, we got everything you need right here. Why the hell is y'all walking all the way on the other side of the floor to go mix and make with folks on the it just don't make I gotta go touch Earth? It don't make sense. I gotta be.

SPEAKER_00:

I gotta I gotta go be in there and and I uh with some of the people. I gotta I gotta feel what's going on in the real world, and I think that's why me, true.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, me ruin uh Trev, we can really go to a club and we can just stay in our spot and kick it the whole night. We ain't gotta do all that carrying on. Y'all get up moving around and and mixing and mingling and wanting to talk. Well, back to where I'm at is um yeah, I think it's just over stunting, over being uh just extra aggressive, more not getting up in the morning, taking a shot, ready to party. And if you sleep in too long, that's for for my guys. That's the that's the big thing for me. Yeah, all that sleeping in shit. You do that when you get back home. All that's dead, but we getting it. But also, if you need a nap, you can get you a nap, but you gotta get up and you got the party first.

SPEAKER_00:

No, like the day the the day I know when I travel with friends, naps are built into the day. Oh god, they gotta have it. Listen, they got it. Bro, we bro, we when we when we would do just going out on the weekend in San Diego, bro. If we went out Saturday today drink, we're taking a nap to go out at night. If I don't get a nap, I'm not going out. This ain't no good for me. Unless I just keep the party going.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, this ain't no good.

SPEAKER_00:

Why go holla at Luigi?

SPEAKER_01:

And that's when he really started. But then, and for women, I'm gonna say for women, I feel like my uh biggest do not travel is if you are let me see, let me see to make it right. I think if you are broke, um you extra always on the phony, like you gotta show every move we do. Um if you I forgot that aren't if you if you don't want to get out, and if you want to sleep in and you just want to be in the in the room instead of getting out, touching the flow, you know, not drinking, not partying, not none of that, just want to be pretty, beat it. Um let me see. And my last one is I think if you just not up to if you're just not up to partying, if you ain't up on the same type of time I'm on, those are most definitely do not travel.

SPEAKER_00:

And it's really being on the same type of time, all right? Like I I've gone on trips with girls who I did not sleep with, had no intentions of sleeping with. I may have tried them, but like, but but it if it ain't that going on the trips, that's what we here for. Do what you're here for. That's it. Do whatever you here for. Don't do too much. If you are a plus one to an event, don't be trying to make no plans, don't be asking to do too much because we are here on business and and and and don't be complaining either. You better not be goddamn complaining, crazy fools.

SPEAKER_01:

And if you broke, and if I know you broke, you better not even think about saying that.

SPEAKER_00:

I may be okay with you coming on this trip broke because daddy got it. But you use your your your saying spend my money like you spend yours.

SPEAKER_01:

Come on now, come on now, and think, baby. Don't you get in here and thought start talking about you want the extra big steak? No, ma'am, you better get that little flow motherfucker for me. Come on now. Whatever, whatever.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm with you. I'm with you. And just because I might order an$80 plate and a$20 cocktail. Come on now. Don't you think you're supposed to get me when I have that type of money in my past life. Uh-huh. When I go to that type of restaurant, that's what I'm there for. Uh-huh. But I go here without you. If you don't go here without me, again, we can open up your palate. We can open up your palate. Now, if you're my old lady, this don't count.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm talking about if you if you're a little butt-nakged. If you a buzzard. Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00:

You eat buzzard food.

SPEAKER_01:

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00:

You don't get dead meat. You better not get no lobster, something that's alive in here before we ate you. Don't eat one of these. And that's not what you eat. No, real quick. I went on a date. I went on a date with a buzzard. Man, it's fucking buzzard. One of the worst probably two to three dates I've gone on in my life. But you know, I was pot committed, so because trying to get some draws. Yeah, facts. Man, this motherfucker ordered. She ordered then I ordered. My order cost more than hers.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

She upgraded.

SPEAKER_01:

No fuck, she didn't. You look at her crazy lady.

SPEAKER_00:

No, no, because it was still early. First date met on the date now. You know, trying to sting something.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

But then we go to the club and she ain't trying to do nothing. Uh uh, whatever. Okay, you I don't really want to go on the second day, but fuck it. Yeah. Valentine's Day coming up.

unknown:

Uh-uh.

SPEAKER_00:

So we go do the wine, wine, uh, the little wine shit. Whatever. Taste and shit. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not no wine drinker. I don't like it. So I give her my my other foe.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

She was like, oh, you should order another one. I'm like, no, I don't like wine. At that point in my life, I didn't. I hadn't found what I like. I'm like, I don't like it. Well, I can drink it if you don't. Bitch, I'm paying. Already I'm paying. I'm not paying to get you drunk and me sober.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, just since that wine tasting, no homo. I'm just getting off sides. You remember when we did that bourbon uh tasting? Oh God. Dude, I got so fucking drunk, man. Like, I'm still thinking about that.

SPEAKER_00:

I went to the city that night after to take a shot and fall asleep on the floor at Pearson.

SPEAKER_01:

Bruh.

SPEAKER_00:

I didn't even party.

SPEAKER_01:

When I tell you, I was sitting over there thing and I talked to Nick uh Nick Wharton like maybe two, three days ago. And I was like, bruh, do you remember? I was like, you remember you gave me a bottle. After he gave me a bottle like at the beginning of the uh of the event. He said, I don't think I've seen that bottle since. Oh no, I drank it. So I did bring, I did bring it up. Okay, well, that was I didn't know if I brought home or whatever. But he kept asking, he was asking me how was it, blah blah.

SPEAKER_00:

Dude, I literally had no idea what it got left in a car, and I went back to Albenny. And it was one of them days where I was out of liquor and I needed some. I was like, oh damn, that's a Boba. Look at my truck that I'm supposed to take back to VJ.

SPEAKER_01:

He ain't asking about it. Down the drain. My God. Was it worth something? It was okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Or was it just regular strong uh whiskey? It's it's whiskey. Uh, it's not a whiskey that I buy by the bottle. Uh, depending on where I'm at, uh, what kind of night it is. Like if I go to the cigar bar in Cartersville because the whiskeys I like cost too much, I'll order it.

SPEAKER_01:

I ain't drinking no whiskey. No, it made me boo-boo everywhere. I use I mean, or I'll get it in the old fashioned of Shout out, my boy Bear. I'm glad you said it. My boy Bear drank old fashions. Oh, his birthday was the other weekend. I've never heard a nigga drink whiskey on his birthday, and Bear drunk like six old fashions and was spinning jack. We ended up going to the flame, and I ain't been in the flame in a while.

SPEAKER_00:

That girl from here still worked though. That girl from here still worked though.

SPEAKER_01:

I ain't gonna say that.

SPEAKER_03:

Sorry, y'all.

SPEAKER_01:

But she will uh that one wasn't uh um, that one wasn't uh uh ain't a dancer.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think when I move to the city, I'm gonna uh I'm gonna dabble in that world again. We're gonna employ them. I get it. Yeah, I gotta find me a daytime one though. Mm-hmm. I need 200 to do something for. Oh shit. Well that's what that's what we talk about, y'all. That's it right there. Oh, I didn't mean like take her to the back room 200. I just mean just 200 is enough to get her attention and get to know her. Two something to do something. You mean I don't pay for I don't pay for sex. That's just legal. Yeah, yeah, moral.