Culturally Inappropriate with A.C. Lee
Unfiltered. Unapologetic. Unafraid to say what needs to be said.
Culturally Inappropriate with A.C. Lee is where sharp wit meets grown-man perspective. A mature rebrand of Big Baby’s Podcast, this show dives headfirst into the intersections of sports, politics, hip-hop, and culture—without watering down the truth.
From the barbershop to the boardroom, A.C. Lee blends humor, intellect, and raw honesty to tackle the conversations others avoid. Each episode brings bold takes, cultural critique, and unapologetic storytelling shaped by Southern roots, Cartersville pride, and Atlanta energy.
If you’re tired of safe conversations and cookie-cutter commentary, you’ve found your spot. This isn’t about being politically correct—it’s about being culturally inappropriate.
Culturally Inappropriate with A.C. Lee
Falcons Fans On The Brink
Hey, it's Parlay Pete. How you doing, man?
SPEAKER_05:Well, hello, neighbor. Where you been? I've just been tending to my greens and tomatoes and whatnot out here.
SPEAKER_06:How's the family?
SPEAKER_05:They're good. They're good, Lee. How are you doing?
SPEAKER_02:Oh man, not too bad. You know, I'm just sitting here. Uh, you know, wearing some championship George gear, you know, I I just couldn't I just couldn't put on anything else. I I just wanted to feel I wanted to feel good today, so I put on some champion gear.
SPEAKER_05:You wanted to feel something.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you know, yeah. It's like micropenis.
SPEAKER_05:Look, it's it's it's certainly something that we've all dealt with, and I think we deal with maybe a little too much, um, at least when it comes in regards to the team that we're gonna end up starting off with. But um first of all, only because I didn't catch the beginning of the show. I have no idea if they addressed it or how it went. Happy fucking birthday. Um, obviously, today is not your birthday, but for the audience out there, yesterday was Lee's birthday.
SPEAKER_02:Thank you, thank you, and thank everyone for the birthday wishes. I greatly appreciate them. And for those who didn't send me birthday wishes, noted.
SPEAKER_05:Noted. Noted. Noted, noted, noted. Um, let's talk a little bit about it. Did you end up at least getting something decent to eat? Like, what did you I know obviously you had to work and it's on a weekday, but I mean, did you did you cook yourself a good meal? Did your mom make you a meal?
SPEAKER_02:Uh my mom wanted to go out to eat, but uh I had to record with the guys for the village vets, and I thought that would be a great birthday experience because I didn't go out. I don't have you know a lady in my life who would just, you know, pamper me for my birthday. So um I have some uh smothered pork chops that I made the other day. Okay, a little brown gravy over some rice uh with some corn and some green beans.
SPEAKER_05:I'm not mad at that meal.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, no, I I enjoyed it, and I and like I said, we had a great pod yesterday, bro. Like, so kind of a quick recap on it because we had this one topic, and I was like, bro, you you would have loved this topic.
SPEAKER_06:Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_02:Because Todd's getting ready to become a dab. So he wanted to just address it on the show. Um to head on. I mean, yeah, but like he wanted to address like some of the women who had some not so nice things to say once, you know, he popped out with his lady and baby on the way and all of that stuff, you know, like you know, hit dogs holler.
SPEAKER_06:Right.
SPEAKER_02:And he kind of addressed that, and then we kind of had a conversation around it. And it was just like a good conversation because I I'm su I'm sure it came up in some conversations you had when people found out. Well, I don't know. Because you're not a social media guy. Did you get any like any like angry or like bitter anything when uh people found out that you were a dad?
SPEAKER_05:No, I didn't. Um, I mean, there's some people that don't know to this day, as crazy as that sounds, and it's not because it's something that I hide, but it's not if if we're not um a well-connected, you know, like if if I don't talk to you, or if you're not somebody that is a part of my daily life, the reality of it is that that's just not something that I put up on social media. But anyone that knows me knows that I'm a father. So it's just it's kind of one of those things where I don't, I don't know. You it's not something you can, I guess, pronounce this type of stuff to the world, but I I haven't done it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I mean, yeah, if if if the people who know, the people who matter know, and if you don't know, then I bet.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I mean, I'm a dad. It's it's really simple to me, but again, I don't feel the need to like put my daughter online or anything. It's not nothing against anyone that does, but like I just are you put it this way, everybody that's close to me has met my daughter. So it's like so it's like one of those things where I don't, you know.
SPEAKER_02:You're you're trying to hide you're trying to hide from the women that you have a daughter because they don't yeah, no, well, they have to know.
SPEAKER_05:So like they absolutely know too. Like, you know that I've talked to, like, of course, they absolutely know, but like nah, you're hiding it from them.
SPEAKER_02:You're living a double, triple life.
SPEAKER_05:Nah, I would, I would, you know, it's crazy. I mean, I know Drake had said it, but like, I wasn't hiding uh my child from the world. I was hiding the world from my child type thing.
SPEAKER_02:Drake was lying, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:But that's why I disclaimer that I wasn't lying. But what he said made a ton of sense.
SPEAKER_02:So Drake did not want the world to know that he fathered a child to a soft core adult actress who he also uh engaged in uh what they call it, a train with ASAP Rocky with, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05:I don't think he's that that's all hearsay at the end of the day. I mean, we don't know it.
SPEAKER_02:That could very well be true, but we well, well, well, why else would Drake throw uh the line of Brianna?
SPEAKER_05:That could just mean that he slept with her at one point.
SPEAKER_02:I mean I mean that's what the rumors say, but you know, you'd be surprised.
SPEAKER_05:This is Morehouse dudes that are friends with guys whose wives that like they're friends, but then like my basically my friends slept with you. Yeah, no, and they know that, but they know that, like in the back of their head, like they know that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that doesn't work for me.
SPEAKER_05:It wouldn't work for me either, honestly. I couldn't, I don't think I could do that, but there's some people that are better than me then.
SPEAKER_02:Like they they are I'm not even gonna call it mature, they're just their theirs their skin is a lot thicker because Well, I'll tell you, there are some girls that I have cons at one point in my life that I wouldn't have considered dating because they were uh you know, like with a guy who was like in my circle. But if said woman, but said woman today could pop into my life, then I would be perfectly okay with it, knowing her path with that other person, but that person's like no longer in my circle, so like it don't matter.
SPEAKER_05:Well, I guess for me, we get some funny comments here, but I guess for me, I look at it more from the standpoint of um you see the comments, they're funny as fuck. But I guess for me, uh I look at it from the standpoint of I just wouldn't Yeah, that was like the first one, but then yeah. I think the shit's funny as fuck, even if it's trolling.
SPEAKER_02:But um engagement, we appreciate it. Let's go through the super chat.
SPEAKER_05:That's what I'm saying. Like, I think it's funny as fuck, to be completely honest with you.
SPEAKER_02:Um did I do who? Did you get botched for our show today or something? No. Uh did you send the link to our guest who flaked who got booked last minute?
SPEAKER_05:I did not.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, me neither. Nigga didn't even open the fucking thread. He just saw it and was like, yeah, okay.
SPEAKER_06:Right.
SPEAKER_02:Because I ain't opened that thread either. This shit sank.
SPEAKER_05:I think I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm not even well wait, wait, but I'm not even upset like like about it. I think I'm more just like I think it's distracting, like more than anything. I guess I could probably move it over.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, let's lock in. Let's lock in. Let's let's get ready for our first segment, man. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I'm telling you, we don't set this party, y'all fry West Sigh, West Sai. We don't set this party, y'all cry, man. She's so self-conscious.
SPEAKER_02:I I wanted to cut it, but you can't really cut this verse.
SPEAKER_05:No, this is one of the classic Kanye verses that will always land, and as a song will never fail, right?
SPEAKER_02:Like the career like we had the conversation last night. The verses kind of a versus and like who will win Drake, Nikki, and Wayne, or Ye, Jay, and Rihanna.
SPEAKER_05:And I'm I don't think that's really a question.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, right, bro.
SPEAKER_05:I was I was like, I don't just don't have more hits than Rihanna. Drake would be the one going against Kanye, and I think again, I think Kanye, as great as Drake is, Kanye is versus God.
SPEAKER_02:That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_05:I don't think he can lose a versus really to anyone, and then Jay-Z to Wayne. Well, I guess it just depends. Like, what are what's the basis? Because if we're basically, is it mixtape too?
SPEAKER_02:Like what bro, but if we're mix if the if the three camps go and say it's a 30-song verses, and we're not gonna have this very we're not gonna do this long. Uh, if they do like 30 songs, right? Well, we're not gonna do 10 from each person, we're gonna pick the 30 best song/slash verses from from these people's uh uh catalog, right? Because you might have to pull out uh we taking over for Wayne, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's one of his best verses.
SPEAKER_05:Or somebody made a very good point, you know. Wayne, I thought body show me what you got more than Jay. Well, yes, right. So if he pulls out the mixtape catalog, he could play, he could do a song that's a J beat, an actual Jay song, and be like, okay, well, you play show me what you got. Well, now here's mine. Like, and do you think Jay would allow that? No, but it but versus versus has never been a mixtape thing anyway. But then again, we haven't really had mixtape.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, I guess Gucci and Jeezy kind of but like I mean Jay has to approve their their their playlist for him to show up until until Manny Fresh is DJing and just plays it.
SPEAKER_05:Nah, that wouldn't happen.
SPEAKER_02:But nah, because you'd be blackballed from the industry forever.
SPEAKER_05:Them niggas all been blackballed anyways to begin with.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but let's get let's get to to what we're really here for. I wish I had some rotten tomatoes to throw at this rotten coach and this rotten football team and this rotten handler and hell. The DC was fucking rotten last week. Let Bryce Young throw for a career high. What 450 and what three tubs?
SPEAKER_05:No turnovers.
SPEAKER_02:No time like this is Bryce Young we're talking about. The guy with one of the lowest yards per attempt since Vietnam.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, a guy that if you looked at his stats today, but somebody said this was in 1942, you'd be like, oh, okay, yeah, that makes sense. He was running the wishbone. You know, and so, or or better yet, this guy was at Army. You were playing quarterback in Army.
SPEAKER_02:Bryce Young is good for like 21 for 30 for 174.
SPEAKER_05:Interesting fact, his last three games combined, he still fell 100 yards short of what he did to us on Sunday. So think about that. Three games combined, he didn't, he was 100 yards short. In touchdowns, he was too short. And then uh obviously he was uh minus three in the turnover department in those three, and then he was plus three in this game. And obviously they were impressive went against the Packers, but they were one and two in those games.
SPEAKER_02:We're the worst team in the division.
SPEAKER_05:Well, we'll get to find out on Sunday, won't we? Because that's what's at stake. Last place. Well, you know, we lose, we drop to 0 and 4 in the division, we have the same record as the Saints. So that would mean we're in last place.
SPEAKER_02:I'm not even gonna be able to watch it.
SPEAKER_05:No, the game's at 425.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, that's beautiful.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, it is a late game. So, worst case, you would get at least probably at least you get there by halftime.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Yeah, I'll just miss that. I'll just miss first hour. Yeah, I uh yeah, it'll be more than halftime.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, and it's not even a four, it's not a 405 start either. It's a 425 start.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so I should probably I should yeah, first, it's you'll probably get some second quarter. Yeah, yeah. I should get some. This is what I'm saying. Um but so I did not watch the game in its entirety. I did watch the fourth quarter in overtime. Shout out to the guys who pay me. Uh, what the fuck happened? Well, let's break it down. Penix was playing pretty well. I don't know. Oh, Terry's getting fired now, by the way. Is that breaking news? No, no, no, no. With Penix having another ACL surgery, I thought you meant it was official.
SPEAKER_05:We knew that he was we knew that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but I'm just saying with Penix having another ACL surgery.
SPEAKER_05:So so before I break down the game, just because you're bringing up firings, Lee, they're gonna clean house. And I I I mean, when I say clean house, I think Rich McKay is gonna be gone too. I think the house is gonna get cleaned.
SPEAKER_02:I think we need to get cra if Rich McKay gets fired. I don't give a damn what anybody says. Uh we were one of the first people calling for Rich McKay's head.
SPEAKER_05:We've been calling for it for years, yeah, like years. Like years, but when I think people think like last year, no, no, no, no, years, yeah. We're on like year four of year five of calling for Matt Ryan still had another year, another uh training camp to get ready for with the Falcons when we were calling for this. So, like it's it's this isn't something new. Uh, I want to say that COVID was still shutting down certain states when we were talking about this, and so you know, my my biggest thing is this. Uh, I spoke with Justice, we spoke at nauseum about it because we were talking about the betting odds for Sunday.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, you want to call you wanna do our quick piece, then call give him a call?
SPEAKER_05:Because we're he might be he might be uh Ubering. Okay. Now he might be okay to still do it. Yeah, if you want, shoot him a text. But we talked about um this because basically, uh, once Penix obviously got ruled out officially, we kind of knew because they had said it anyways. And it was weird because we didn't know. So on Sunday, so when he got hurt, nobody knew the severity. It was just like, oh, he's not gonna return. But he was on the sideline, he's smiling, like he's on the, you know, he's on the sideline, like he's not in the locker room. So it's like, okay, Michael Penix might not like he tweaked. I don't know. You know, you don't know. Nobody knows. It wasn't like a oh, he's and and even when he went down, he walked off the field. So again, nobody really knows what's going on, but um you look at the game and the way that it transpired, and you just you don't just shake your head to the idea of well, the Carolina Panthers swept the Falcons. It's just more along the lines of this. What are we really doing? How do we get better in one position that has plagued us for years? Which is getting to the quarterback. We're second in the NFL in sacks. We're second, we're second.
SPEAKER_02:And I hate real quick, you're already seeing them creating the narrative of the Falcons being dumb for trading the first round pick. They got the right player. Remember the player. Don't think about the projected draft pick. They got the player.
SPEAKER_05:Well, I think we would have to see if there's a player that's drafted in this class that's a pass rusher that's better than him.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, not even a pass rusher.
SPEAKER_05:Think who impact that could have helped our team.
SPEAKER_02:What player in college football have we watched that would be a need for the Falcons or a, because you could say quarterback is a need, right? But uh they they're not gonna, they probably don't do that unless they clean house, but like a position worth a top 10 pick and a player that would have immediate impact.
SPEAKER_05:And we also got Xavier Watts. People have to remember that we did get a third from them too in that deal, and Xavier Watts was the pick. Now, this is what I was gonna say, because you were saying what player get back to your point.
SPEAKER_02:I just wanted to throw that out there before I forgot about it. Because I it's a very important thing to note that we didn't lose that trade.
SPEAKER_05:Lee, we did not lose that trade. We're about to eat up at least 45 minutes here. Oh, yeah, I'm seriously talking about this because it will be a deep dive. But okay, to my point, the idea was this. We lead, we're second in the NFL in sacks. We've been uh probably four of the last five years have been last, and then I know one of the years we were like second to last. But over the last five years, we don't have that type of production out of that position. Now we do. Now we do. You got this production at this position, but we're continuously losing games now. So it's kind of like how do you take one step forward at maybe even two steps forward at the worst position that you've had all season? And then everywhere else it seems like you took a step back. You're six and three last year, or six and four. We'll even say six and four, because we're 10 games in. You're six and four last year at this point. You're in first place in the division. You're two wins over Tampa optimistic about the future, even though things aren't great. It still is like, okay, this team is still a playoff team. Like, you can do this. Terry Fonneau, it's so I hate it for him because he's not truly of all of the big three, coach, GM, president, he deserves to keep his job the most. But you gotta clean house. Yeah, you gotta fucking clean house, man. This season is it's not only over already, but like they've got it, they've gotta do something completely different. Like all the way around.
SPEAKER_02:I I this sounds so podcasty local radio trying to go viral. I think Arthur Blank needs to sell the team. Now we can fire Rich, give it a couple years, and see now, mind you, this is me talking as a Falcons fan and what we need to be successful, not me talking about real life and business. He should not sell the team for business purposes. And I don't think he will. But the organization isn't buttoned up. We don't win, like we lose games. Every outside of shit. Really outside of Matt Ryan's last year. We've predicted the Falcons would win 10 or 11 games. Well, doesn't it seem like we're almost being trolled? But yeah, but hold on. We can pull up the games and go through them and talk you to our prediction. And not like hyperbole, like, oh, we got screwed here. It's like, nah, bruh, nigga dropped a pass wide open. Oh no. Uh they got in the field goal range and he made the field goal, or he missed the field goal, or we made the field goal. Then on the kickoff, uh the guy broke to like the 38 and they got two first downs in 10 seconds of game time, and uh they're about to walk it off with their field goal kick. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, or we miss an extra point, or we have a stupid two-point conversion that we give up like early in the game, and then that changes the that changes it from ties to to field goal only gives you a two-point lead, you know what I'm saying? And they and or they're up one, you know. Just the weird stuff that happens to the Falcons. So, like it's crazy because every year we make similar predictions and you see it almost play out. So it's not just the players, it's not just the coaches, it's not the quarterback, it's not the GM, there's only two people. Front-facing people. Obviously, there are other people who are in their ears that have been there forever. There's two constants: Rich and Arthur. Well, you know what? The owner's never gonna fire himself. I I I mean, as an owner of a team, the Falcons are a consumer product. They are a good and a service. At some point you gotta listen to you gotta listen to your to you gotta look read the comment section. You know what I mean? You don't you gotta read the Yelp reviews. If you start getting the same comments and the same Yelp reviews, you know, every girl leaves you for the same reason. It's not them. It just might be you. Rich McKay. It's not all these people you fucking fired over the last 20 years. It might be you again, Arthur Blank. I could say the same thing to you, but you own this. You can do whatever you damn well please. And I am in no position to tell you uh what you should do in the best interest for your uh portfolio because uh you could buy me uh many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many times over. Like you could the amount of money that you could that would take for this podcast to be a great podcast, you wouldn't miss it. Like if we just stole a couple million from you to get this thing really up and running, like build out a fucking studio, all this other shit, and have some money to pay some people to come sit and talk to us to make us look cool and get one of those nice little green walls to take pictures with our guests after.
SPEAKER_05:Oh man, not the green wall.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Arthur, you wouldn't you wouldn't miss it. Like your your your money's got your money guys, like assistant, assistant's assistant would be the one who would catch it. And it would never get to you because it'd be like, bro, don't bother Arthur about two million dollars. He's gonna make us do way too much work for some money he doesn't care about.
SPEAKER_05:I don't think Arthur is in totality the problem because he's done a lot of good for the Falcons. Like, I'm not the type of person that looks at what he's done for the community. For the Falcons. I think that he's done a lot of good. Right? A lot of people don't realize how bad ownership was prior to him. Now, the only reason I even know I was only seven, uh, seven, eight. But the thing is, is this a lot did change that I could recognize even as a kid. Not just the winning, like, we did win more. You know, they changed the jerseys, right? Vic, Jim Warren, like we changed the jerseys, but like a lot just changed. It felt like the Falcons were headed in a direction of we're tired of being obscure.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:So like when I look at him, I don't think that he does not not want to win. I think that whoever, aside from Rich McKay, who's obviously his right-hand man in football, it's the other people around him that weren't telling him, get rid of this fucking motherfucker. Because this has gone on for a minute now. It's hard to believe that he's bonded this friendship with him. And that's why we always make this joke of like he's in the Epstein Files, and like, and Rich has the proof. Because it almost doesn't make sense because of what has happened over the past few years with the Falcons. It's one thing to have a couple of down years. As good as Arthur Blank's ownership has been, this has easily been the worst portion of Falcons football in the franchise's uh history. They've never gone more than six years without making the playoffs. We're about to be on year eight. Think about that. You spent this money on the Browns. You paid a quarterback$100 million coming off an injury, and then you drafted a quarterback that has knee problems and is like noted knee problems.
SPEAKER_02:And you like my and you were trying to get Deshaun Watson.
SPEAKER_05:While chasing out the best thing that's ever happened to the franchise, the one the one thing that's brought stability. We've got plenty of great players. Anyone can argue me to their blue in the face. Julio's a Hall of Famer. Matt Ryan might not be. But who's more important to the franchise? Matt Ryan. Yeah, absolutely. Matt Ryan's more important to the Falcons than Julio Jones. I don't care what anyone says. Because he is. But you chased him out to get a dude who ended up being butt. Now, I we don't know how it would have played out if he played here in reality. I mean, he did go to Cleveland, but like I mean, he could have been better. He might have been happier here.
SPEAKER_02:Cleveland's been to the playoffs twice in the last eight years. Did he play in any of those playoff games, Lee? No, I'm just saying you're saying it's Cleveland, but hell, over the last eight years, they've they've ran a better operation than we have.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. They won one playoff game.
SPEAKER_02:They've had ups and downs. We've just been stagnant. Stagnant. Well, it's been like we went down, then we just stayed at the water.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, no, we're riding a wave. But the way it's not a high tide type wave either. Like it's just like a you know, something to where you're okay with your kids going out there with their their boogie board. Bro, we we might not even get they won't really get swept by under that wave.
SPEAKER_02:Bro, we might not get the eight and nine special this year. Or the seven and ten piece. We might be talking six and eleven. Five and twelve.
SPEAKER_05:I think that the biggest issue with the Falcons, and this is, you know, almost like us in a confessional at this point at a Catholic church. It's not like the Falcons can't do this. And when I say do this, I mean be a consistently good franchise. Not winning the Super Bowl, be a consistently good franchise. You know why? Because we've actually seen them be a consistently good franchise for at least half a decade. At least half a decade. We've seen it. From 2008 to 2013. Bro, no. They made the playoffs four times. So like go 08 to 17.
SPEAKER_02:No, no. Go 08 to 17. That whole, even though we had some down years just the 08 to 17, that that in a 10-year stretch, you made it six out of you made it six out of ten times.
SPEAKER_05:And even and this is why I did the five-year sample, because even in that five-year stretch, the year we didn't make it, we were nine and seven. So it wasn't like we had a winning record even that year, right? Like we were, you know, Matt Ryan missed two games this second year. And who knows? Chris Rodden started those games. Imagine if he played, we probably might have made it a fifth five straight years. But I think that it all starts at the top. And again, to get back to the point of how we even got here, Arthur Blank. I plead with Arthur Blank to do this. I don't have an issue with him as an owner for the city of Atlanta. I have an issue with him as an owner of a football team. Please hire somebody that knows something about football if you don't care enough to know about it yourself. Jared cares to know about himself. Urse's daughter, and Urse, for what it's worth, who a lot of people don't realize this. You're the gym. Exactly. He worked in football. Like he worked in football too. And which is why I'm sure his daughter is so passionate. That's why her ass is on the fucking field. Please hire somebody that does care about it. I know he's an older dude. I know Jerry's pretty old too, but like I mean, Jerry played at Arkansas. Nobody's asking Arthur to be Mark Cuban. We're not asking you to be all up in the GM's ear, the coaches here, you know, come to death row. Nobody's asking him to do that. What we're asking you to do, stop listening to Rich McKay. Fire Rich McKay. That's the first thing anyone should do in this organization. Even before Roth, Zach Robinson, anyone else's fake. Let's get Rich out of there. You know what? You fire Rich. You know, now Ra is still a bad coach. I don't care what anybody says.
SPEAKER_02:You replace a bad head coach. You replace Rich before you even fire anybody else. Like Rich needs to be fired in two weeks. Rich? Rich needs to retire.
SPEAKER_05:Well, and I feel like that's what's gonna end up happening. It will be a Rich McKay, it's a mutual uh party. That's what I think to save face. Now, Atlanta rejoices because of it, but okay, so this gets back into the to the conversation I had with Justice, because we talked about this because it came down to the betting angle. And I was like, the Falcons are inconsistent. You shouldn't bet on the Falcons ever. Well, that's the point. And so, like, but then we broke it down and we went deeper because then we started talking about well, who's we know that everybody in there knows that they're dead man walking. There's no way, let me tell you, seriously, I will proclaim this today on November 19th at 8:56 p.m. 2025. If Raheem Morris or Rich McKay is still with the Falcons, I will no longer support this team. If they're there at the end of the year, I'm not supporting this team anymore. And I mean it. I really do mean it because I can't continue to invest Sundays. Fuck the money. That's already been spent, and then whatever's gonna get spent would get spent. I can't emotionally invest in this team anymore. I can't do it. Like, I can't do it from that perspective. Like, it's one thing to just have a bad roster and like knowing shit's gonna be lousy. It's another thing to have a wide receiver who, again, has missed a game, is top five in receiving yards. You've got a running back who is top three in all-purpose yards, but only behind the presumable front runner of an MVP if there was one that wasn't a quarterback, and Jonathan Taylor and then Christian McCaff. You've got that at your running back and your fucking wide receiver. And your second and sacks. Oh, and you're second and sacks in the NFL. This is bullshit, and everybody should look at it that way. This is bullshit, and anyone that thinks that this is okay, you continue to be a fool. But I'm not gonna continue to be fooled by this shit. Not anymore. So you know what?
SPEAKER_02:A thing about that is how many good one o'clock window games have we missed because we're watching the Falcons, you know, whether at the game or watching just on Fox. Yeah, or or like watching the Falcons at home because you know you're gonna be watching the Falcons, and it's like, man, I could have gone to brunch and casually watch football today. And had and and and I would have had fun, and I still would have known what's going on with football. No, I'm hammered at four o'clock and I'm pissed off.
SPEAKER_05:You're hammered. You you spent a lot of money on a ticket, a lot of money on PSL, a lot of money, potentially on alcohol, gas. Like, now look, I get it. Let's not act like this. Let's not act like some of this stuff isn't it. This stuff is baked into the experience. So, like, I don't want to me bringing up gas or anything, you don't have to drive down there, but that is baked into the experience, win or lose. And you know that we're not gonna go undefeated. So there's gonna be times that you go and you're not gonna win. It's not about that, it's about years of doing it. It's about it's like, let me tell you, it's like, it's like, it's like being abused, like, and I know that this is such a bad way to like try and say it, but no, I need people to hear me out. Yeah, I've never been abused, so I guess it's like, well, how can I speak on something I've never been? I can only imagine what it's like to be abused, but whenever I hear those that have been abused stories, the way that I take it is that this goes on for years, and you kind of continue to take it because that is the way that it seems every time I've heard it. I've never heard hit once, and then the nigga gets locked up for forever or white man, whoever it doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_02:Let me nigga is too gentle, but like but hey, remember this you deal with them hitting you because but it doesn't even have to be physical abuse, right? Right, right, right. I mean, you deal with the abuse because you can't imagine your life without that person. I can't imagine not being a Falcons fan, right?
SPEAKER_05:Which is which is why I'm comparing it to the abuse.
SPEAKER_02:Like, I'm just helping you drive it home more so like people don't think we're being like no.
SPEAKER_05:I just don't I don't want anyone to think I'm being insensitive about it, but like it is it's it's it's obviously abuse to fans because that is that is what this feels it feels like abuse, bro. It feels like we're being abused, whether it's financially, uh for some people looking at the bad days when the Falcons lose. Me too. I mean, I and when I say financially too, I don't just mean buying the goddamn ticket. I mean, I've bet on the team too. Now look, that's my problem. But like, but at the end of the well, still, it's it's just like somebody can say buying the ticks is your problem. But like, I'm just saying when something uh what's the definition of insanity, Lee?
SPEAKER_01:Uh doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.
SPEAKER_05:Bingo, so that's exactly what's going on here with this Rich McKay thing, and that's why I didn't mind pronouncing this about what, five minutes ago. That I just won't support the team anymore. Because if he's not, if he's there at the start of the draft, I can't do it anymore because I know what's gonna happen. Like, imagine being a fan of scary movies and knowing who the fuck's gonna die every single time. You know they're gonna trip over the wire, you know that Jason or Freddie's gonna be right there, and there's nothing you can do about it, but continue to watch it over and over again, knowing they're gonna get slaughtered.
SPEAKER_02:I ain't gonna hold you. I was thinking the other day, I'm like, dang, I might do like a Hawks 10-piece or 20-piece next year. Which we will get to that if you uh I know if you yeah, I I I I I did I did my I I went through pre-production. Come on now, I'm a professor. No, like I like I'm really thinking about I might just do that instead because man, fuck it.
SPEAKER_05:Are the braids, goddammit. I mean, at least with them.
SPEAKER_01:It's the battery.
SPEAKER_05:They're closer to you right now. I know that once you move down, but they're closer to you now. The tickets are cheaper on a per game basis.
unknown:That's the battery.
SPEAKER_05:They're winners, they won. Yeah. Fuck the Risa World series, they're just winners in general. Yeah, yeah, we want to win the whole thing, but gosh, again, like you said, you said this a few weeks ago, you said it multiple times over the past years to about a one Julian turn. Man, I died to be in your position. I'm okay with just gosh, if we if if if if our stagnant is make the playoffs every year and have a winning season, sign me up. Sign me up, god damn it.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, just think about this with the Braves, right? They had a down year, they got hot laid. Injuries, a lot of injuries. They had injuries, but but that was like an injury thing, too. But we yeah, we were bummed out about it when everything was happening, but once the season was lost, it's like, all right, who cares? And it's not because you're less invested, it's because they have so much goodwill built up that if the team isn't competing for a season, you're not mad. Like that hurts a lot less than losing to the the Dodgers in the playoffs, honestly.
SPEAKER_05:That that and then when when Vegas, which Vegas doesn't like to lose money and they don't lose money. That's why they're still in business. Vegas, when they set the odds to where Super Team Dodgers favorite plus 210, then you look, it's like, well, who's plus 300 right behind them? It's the fucking Braves. Meaning, you know, if the if the goddamn team that now, now they've won it two years in a row, but like if the fucking team with the best player of possibly this generation, along with two other MVPs, one coming from the Brazil, there's one team that's gonna stop them. It's gonna be them goddamn Braves. I want to be in that type of company. I want to be, I want to be to where if the Chiefs are the favorite in the NFL every year because they have Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid, then we're the Bills, we're the Ravens, we're the Eagles. We're we're we're you know what I mean? We're the what like like I want to be in that conversation to start the year every year, even after the down year. The Braves had a down year the year before that. Like, like we lost in the playoffs in the first round to the Padres, and they were still second. Like they were still fucking second. And so, like, I want to be a part of that conversation. I would rather be disappointed in the Braves like they were in the 90s for going to so many and not winning them as opposed to just not being in the conversation. I want to be at the table, even if I don't order the biggest state. I want to eat, I want to eat a little bit. I don't want to be looked at on the outside and not be able to afford it. Like, I don't want to be in that conversation. So be it. Well, and that's where we're at. Yeah, we we don't have anything to to bring to to a football conversation to anyone aside from just knowledge of the game when it comes to just talking about our team, because it's just like, oh, all right, well, anyways, we're talking about winning football over here. We can't have that conversation.
SPEAKER_02:No, like and and the worst part is if somebody who's not a falcons fan, right? It's like, man, what's for what's up with the Falcons, man? Y'all got Drake London, the pass rush, uh Bichon?
SPEAKER_00:Hold on.
SPEAKER_02:It's like how much time do you have? Let's start with Rich McKay.
SPEAKER_05:Rich McKay. Yeah, that is where this stuff starts, though.
SPEAKER_02:Who's Rich McKay?
SPEAKER_05:Let me let me school you. You remember when the Rams won the Super Bowl? Yeah, well, his daddy used to own the team, yeah. And he kind of took over football a little bit. He gets credit for being the GM. Tony Johnny built it, John Gruden executed it. But he gets credit for it because he's a part of the organization and he had a title. So from there, he wins the Super Bowl, uh, goes another year after that, gets hired by the Falcons.
SPEAKER_02:He's a DM to the same job.
SPEAKER_05:In the same job, but he just comes to Atlanta because Arthur Blank was basically new to the owning game. And he needed, he fired Dan Reeves.
SPEAKER_02:He probably went through the league office to get somebody.
SPEAKER_05:Which obviously he's highly respected. That's why he's the head of the competition committee. But that's what his fucking job should be. If he's that respected, let him work for Roger and Roger owner, and I guess the owners. But don't let him work for one owner.
SPEAKER_02:Like no, don't let him work for my owner.
SPEAKER_05:And then, and then, and then, and then we owner of my favorite team, sorry. And then, and then we get to hear more and more about oh, um, you know, Roger. Uh, or no, you get to hear more and more about, oh, uh, Rich McKay stepped away. Rich McKay is not, he doesn't even deal with football. He he deals with uh the fucking stadium and the business. He deals with the soccer team. The soccer teams fucking went down. I want you to really think about, let's take a deeper dive into Rich McKay. They said that he moved over to soccer operation. This nigga don't know shit about no goddamn soccer, but somehow he moved over. Now, that's translation for we never said we said football. He went to football. Meaning he was always still on the football side of things. But they'll sit here and lie, spit in our face, and say he's dealing with something he knows nothing about. Don't worry about him. No, no, there's not enough outrage because this isn't New York City where people are writing articles and calling for people's heads and getting that serious about it. Because, you know, we can still go to Magic City, we can still, uh, and let me not just make it a black thing. I mean, you can still do kind of whatever, it's really about the party, right? It's about, oh, it's a cheap gaming series. Oh, we could tailgate outside, have a good time. There's ass shaking. We can get good with the other fans, even though we suck. It's us getting old. It's getting old, and that's and that's why I said what I said earlier.
SPEAKER_02:Um do you think we could create or try to like inspire a more angry fan base?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, if we go to the game, uh, the Seahawks game, that's the next home game, and we have bullhorns and we're yelling and we're picketing, and we get a flash mob or something to do the thriller with us while we hold up signs doing it. I bet that that would catch a lot of people's attention.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, do you think we'd get arrested if we uh shut down traffic on North Side Drive? Well, no, I wouldn't do that. Uh only way I'm shutting down traffic on Northside Drive if I'm wobbling, walking out of 10 because one of those ladies in there poured me too heavy.
SPEAKER_05:Well, wobble baby, wobble baby, wobble baby.
SPEAKER_02:But nah, uh uh, but like if we if we like had like Rich McKay in a noose, do you think we get arrested for that?
SPEAKER_05:Oh, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02:That's our free speech.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, but we get arrested for that, Lee.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I yeah, I don't I don't think hold on, Rich McKay in a news. I don't think we get convicted. In a news, Lee? No, I I I I I wouldn't do it. I was just really thinking, like, do you do you think you could actually get it off?
SPEAKER_05:Not in a noose, no. And it depicts him, no.
SPEAKER_02:I I remember being at a high school football game once, and a parent was yelling off with his head directed at the uh head football coach. Yeah, but I I mean that's I I know I'm I'm just I'm just uh again, I I wouldn't go out there and bullhorn and and and protest with Rich McKay in the news. That's irresponsible. It's just the South is insensitive. It can just go right, yeah. It can just go too many ways. Like, you know, you can't make hanging jokes anymore. Twenty years ago, you could make a joke about hanging somebody. Oh hanging, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But uh this took a dark turn.
SPEAKER_05:Well, did it take a dark turn, or or is it is it one of these things where you're sick and tired? You're just tired of of the same old same. Can we kind of just tired of the same old same?
SPEAKER_02:Can we hire can we make a Dan Reeves type hire?
SPEAKER_05:So, all right, this gets back to what the conversation that me and Justice had. So then we moved on to coaching, right? In terms of well, who do you hire? As it sits today, there are three people. I said, first of all, Dan Reeves is the last hire that we made. Yes, Ra was a coach before, he was a losing coach. Aside from that, we have not hired a veteran head coach since Dan Reeves, Jim Moore, Mike Smith, DQ, Arthur Smith. These are all coordinators. Now, you can say that we kind of hit on DQ because we did go to the Super Bowl, went to the playoffs twice. He was eight and eight his first year, but like yeah, yeah, yeah. But we we we haven't brought in a coach who's proven it. And he's proven now, and even in his second cent, yeah, he's got the injuries and you know whatever's going on in Washington. But I think around the league, everybody believes Dan Quinn's a good coach because I think he's a good coach. Yeah, yeah. So let's get back to who we who we should go after. So, but this right, this gets to my point. No first-time coordinators. We missed out on that. You had McDonald and you had uh what's face in Chicago. Yeah, so so who are you thinking that's out there? Well, we have to go offense. So obviously, McCarthy's the first person that just I know is a free agent that comes to mind. Now, the season's not over yet, and I'm not saying I don't believe that LaFleur shit, but who knows? He let's say he does come available. There's LaFleur. Obviously, he's somebody you talk to. If John Harbaugh, if somehow the Ravens don't make it and they decide to mutually part ways, I'm not saying that's gonna happen, but I'm just saying it could. If they decide just like when the Eagles with uh uh Andy Reid, if they decide to mutually part ways, you don't let any of those guys, any of if those two become available, it's a matter of who wants to accept first. I I wouldn't even I would offer them both, and whoever signs first is who gets the job. But McCarthy is the only open free agent. I I think Clint Kubiat wouldn't be bad. And if we did do a retread head coach, I know they're having a rough year, but Cliff is somebody I would talk to. And then the other idea, if we went the avenue of college, don't go Cliff. And then if we went the avenue of college, there's only gonna be even so many people that depending on how they looked at the draft process when we drafted Pennings. Why not just call the Boer? I'd just call him at this point because let's see if he wants to leave. Would he leave? He's had play, he's had success with Michael Pennings at two different places. So, like I would call the board too. If if you if you're gonna look in the college ranks at all, what I'm not saying do it.
SPEAKER_02:What are your thoughts on uh I don't know if you saw it, but it was from 680. I sent it to you. Um Todd Monken to be the head coach, bring Stetson back home.
SPEAKER_05:I don't want no. No, fuck no.
SPEAKER_02:Who was that veteran? Or who was it?
SPEAKER_05:Or was it Matt?
SPEAKER_02:Who was it that's I I didn't even I just sent it to you. I didn't listen to it. I just I like was reading it with the volume off because I'm Fuck no.
SPEAKER_05:Fuck no.
SPEAKER_02:What about uh Kirby? Yeah, I mean, I don't think Kirby's leaving Georgia for any job, but like he's not gonna leave Georgia for a job that he knows he's gonna get fired from. So, like, people with the Kirby shit, that's stupid. It's just dumb take. And I don't think Kirby works in the NFL either.
SPEAKER_05:I don't know if he doesn't work in the NFL. I think that because he's more he was in the NFL, he would be like that that wasn't aside, it wasn't like a No, I know, but I'm saying I think that he's more of a CEO coach if he comes to the NFL, that he CEOs it more than I'm gonna call the defense. Not that he does it at Georgia, but like just his style, though.
SPEAKER_02:His style is like it's physical football, it's very in your face, like but I like the idea of no BS.
SPEAKER_05:That's what the organization needs. They need a no BS attitude.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, but that's that's hard.
SPEAKER_05:Like he's 100% BS.
SPEAKER_02:You want a no BS attitude, but you have to understand that a college coach coming up to the NFL who has not who has no NFL, who has limited NFL coaching experience, excuse me. Uh he was in Miami with Saban, if I remember correctly. Uh Kirby is too accomplished. Uh I just think he's too accomplished to go to the NFL. Because uh his style may not work for certain players, especially players who aren't who haven't been coached that way. And Kirby's the type that would want to get rid of NFL players, but the way those contracts are set up.
SPEAKER_05:Well, he's damn near dealing with it now though, technically.
SPEAKER_02:Uh, but he has for what it's worth. He can replace the he can replace the players in college and he doesn't like it doesn't fuck up his salary cap. Yes, the money spent, whatever. But you know, I I feel like at this point these contracts are are super conditional. But like NIL money, like they're tying conditions to the money.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:It was actually I think it was better for a lot of players when it was brown bag money, besides the fact it's getting it's not getting it wasn't getting taxed. But because it's above board, we can have conditions on this money and we can give you an advance, and we can hold you liable to pay us back. Whereas uh if you gave me$20,000 on a visit while you know when I went out to the ranch to uh go shoot skeet, you know, you couldn't give me this money, so you can't make me pay it back.
SPEAKER_05:So, but again, that that's why it gets to the point of where I look at it from the standpoint of Kirby doesn't leave it anyways, but I said I was about to say that Kirby Kirby to the Falcons should not be a conversation unless it happens, unless he signs, unless he takes an interview or he he signs a contract, it should not be a conversation because it's stupid. Yeah, I agree, I agree. I I don't think that that's even a consideration. What I do think is a consideration is you know, I think that Frank DeBore, depending on how this season ends with Alabama, you got a legitimate. No, I'm just saying if we're gonna do college, if there's gonna be anything college, you shouldn't do college. You shouldn't. I agree, but I I just let it out. Yeah, I don't want I don't want anything but a veteran coach. And Mike McCarthy fits the mold in terms of who's available today, like as we sit here today. Like Virginia, I tell you, and I know we're gonna get to college here because I know we we knew that we were gonna do this first hour, damn near all Falcons, but like you look at Virginia Tech, they zoned in on their guy. They didn't there was no fucking waiting, they didn't need to be like Florida, LSU, Auburn. They didn't need to do it. You know why? Because they were like, well, hold on a second. We've got a program changer, we've got somebody we know will at least get us to something that we want. Yeah, at this point, yeah, I want to hire the coach that's gonna win us the Super Bowl, but like, no man, let's get somebody that's gonna win us some games. Like Mike Smith, although not a veteran coach, he was a great coach, starter coach to start the shit off with. The defense was good in Jacksonville, like everything was right about him.
SPEAKER_02:Get get get to the next point with justice that y'all talked about.
SPEAKER_05:That was it. That that that head coaching wise, we we knew that we needed to figure out to get a veteran head coach was what I wanted. Like, I'm I'm saying, like, we needed a veteran head coach. And Mike McCarthy, to me, makes the most sense. He's won at every stop that he's been at. He's won a Super Bowl. Yes, Dak Prescott and Aaron Rodgers were his quarterbacks. Yes.
SPEAKER_01:But they got better with him, though.
SPEAKER_05:They got better with him, and he's he they were winner, they won games. That's a good coach. And that's what we want. Like, we want to win games.
SPEAKER_02:And I think that Mike McCarthy did the one thing that a lot of coaches don't get to do is his contract ran out. He didn't get fired. They went back to the table. He wanted to stay, they went back to renegotiate, and they couldn't come to a price.
SPEAKER_05:Lee, what I would give to see the Falcons get blown out as a one-seed against a six-seed fucking hot Packers team or hot any team at this point.
SPEAKER_02:But hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me let me let me get let me get the coach. Like, let me get let me get some mic today, man. Um I got some fly. Here's I I I I want an offensive coach. Theoretically. I really do.
SPEAKER_05:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Aaron Rodgers is hurting. Now I'm throwing armor. We don't know how long it's gonna be.
SPEAKER_05:I don't think he gets fired. That's right.
SPEAKER_02:Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Steelers fans aren't happy with Coach T. He might need fresh air and he might say, Hey, I I need a quarterback. And I think a healthy Michael Penix can possibly be what I'm looking for as far as a talent because hey, Coach T is gonna ask him to do a lot less.
SPEAKER_05:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:I mean j just the way that he coaches and plays football, you know, he plays complimentary football, unlike the Falcons. He really you know, he he can pretty much rely on his kicking game and his in previous years his defense to help him keep games close on and so forth. But if Tomlin becomes available, fuck all of those offensive people because the most important thing that the Falcons need is a culture and a standard. And Mike Tomlin creates a culture and sets a standard. You know, his his his quote, the standard is a standard. You know, we saw we and we saw something this week in in the in the interview when they asked him about the Jalen Ramsey thing, and he said, Somebody spit about you, it's not about football anymore. Which pretty much is beat his ass, and I don't give a fuck. I'm sure I'm sure the team found a way to cover Jalen Ramsey's fine. You know what I mean? But like what the Falcons need more than anything, and you talk about bringing in an experienced coach who's done it before, is they need somebody who can shake up that building, but have the immediate respect of the players who are there and the other people who are contributing factors who don't get fired when regime changes, you know. Like, you know, you have front office people who like still stay, you know. Some scouts get to come back, they get to, you know, re-interview and stuff like that, but we need people who are gonna buy into a culture. So it's not so it's not just about wins and losses, it's about the way you play football and being consistently, being consistent and doing that regularly, you know. For for the most part, you know what you're gonna get out of a Steelers game, even though their defense sucks this year, you're gonna get an ugly football game still.
SPEAKER_05:Well, see, but that's why I agree with you in terms of culture shifting.
SPEAKER_02:Um I don't trust Mike McCarthy to create a culture, by the way.
SPEAKER_05:Well, the point is that that's not who I want to do it. I want the GM to do it. We need a GM that's gonna do it. I think, yes, hiring the right coach, of course, makes that is all the difference. But we need somebody with direction and management because that's where the issue's been. Like, even with that management, we hired the right coach. That's why we went to the Super Bowl. Now we didn't win it, but like that's where the issue has come in to me. It's to me, it's been more of a management thing than it has coaching even. This year, I mean, Rich is rich, but like Terry hasn't been the issue, right? Like, we would agree it's been over since he's been the GM, the coaches have been two misses. You had two misses at coach, but the GM's providing the talent.
SPEAKER_02:So, like but and and and with the two misses though, he's a first-time GM who came from a franchise who had a coach.
SPEAKER_05:So that's why they didn't want to hire Bill.
SPEAKER_02:So, to his credit, or to give him shoot him some bail, Terry's not familiar with a head coaching screening process. I know like he knows what it look, what right looks like. But knowing what right looks like versus pulling that from the interview, and I'm and Sean Payton was Terry wasn't in on the meetings when Sean Payton got hired. He learned, he he got to Sean allowed him to move up in that organization. Okay.
SPEAKER_05:Well, Loomis is who I mean that's who he was.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he worked, he worked with Sean, but yeah, but but but if Sean Payton didn't like because he was, you know, he was the top, he was the top exact uh non-GM personnel, he was top personnel guy. Yeah, you don't get that job without director of player personnel. Yeah, you don't get that without Sean Payton.
SPEAKER_05:And the Saints for the longest did a very good job of drafting. I mean, I can't say, I mean, Hassan Reagan, I guess he was all right, but they did, they reached like shit when they drafted him. That's just one player, and every GM, I mean, Howie Roseman drafted Jalen Rager over Justin Jefferson. So every GM gets a fucking gaff. Like, like, but I guess my thing is this we need to get a football person in. If he wants another Rich McKay, you brought it up before. Let's bring Bill Poly in. Let's let's let's let's get somebody, even if he's not the GM, if you need a right-hand man for football, let's get a guy that's done it. Because, like we said earlier with Rich McKay, Rich McKay didn't build that team. We know that he didn't build that Tampa Bay team, and more importantly, that was 20 years ago, and we've never had anything that resembles that Tampa Bay team. We went to the Super Bowl once, but in that 20 years that he's been here, we've never had a team that's even resembled that. So, which goes to show that he didn't build it. Because what did Hose say? He said, Motherfuckers saying they made Ho made Ho say, okay, so make another hove. He didn't make another hove.
SPEAKER_02:He didn't. So neither did they so what do you think the Falcons do for the rest of the season? What does the rest of the season look like?
SPEAKER_05:The rest of the season is figuring out who the fuck you're gonna keep that's got expiring contracts. Kirk Cousins, go out there and make you some money. I mean, that that's that is what this is at this point. What what else?
SPEAKER_02:Hold on.
SPEAKER_05:Do you think Kirk gives us a chance? To do what? Win some games? Yeah. I think the Falcons at most will win three games. I think that this is a 6-11 football team at best. Because we played New Orleans twice, he could get one against one of these teams that we shouldn't beat because we beat the Bills and we beat the Vikings, which were two games on paper. We were on the dogs, we were uh over five and a half point dogs in those games, and we won them, and they were both on national TV. So who knows? We could upset Tampa, right? It's still a division game. We could beat the Saints twice. Who knows? Maybe we do beat the Seahawks when they come here. Seahawks are the best team in the NFL on the road. Maybe we get the Rams at the end of the year. As a little, as a little bit of that, we fucked up that draft selection. So you know the pick.
SPEAKER_02:I mean so you don't even you don't even know like the th what the three games are. You're you're just like shooting in the dark, like the two Saints games and a lucky one.
SPEAKER_05:Well, we got we got we got the Jets too, but like they got Tyrod. But Tyrod, right? Tyrod's gonna be starting in those games. And who knows? If Justin Fields was starting, he'd probably have a career day against us too. I mean, Bryce Young did it, and I'm sure that Justin Fields would love to light up his uh hometown team.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, yeah, you you you know, you're bringing that up. Um what as we get into the the reactions from last week, is Justin Fields finally officially a fucking bust?
SPEAKER_05:He should have been one. He's on his third team in five, six years.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, can we finally, and this is this is no disrespect to him, the man. He's a great athlete. He was supposed to get drafted where he got drafted based on uh his body of work, but it didn't work out. And uh I've said this on this show and I stole it from Jeff Teague when he was talking about Anthony Richardson. But I do think that athletic quarterbacks who come into the league and quarterback does not work for them, they should play a they teams should be creating the Taysom Hill role for for guys who it's either a backup and you make backup quarterback money and you never get to play, or you play sometimes in packages, although you're not a traditional quarterback, you don't do all the things the quarterback does. You get to throw the ball, you still are the backup, and you get to play and have an impact. Justin Fields lining up in the slot, going in motion, lining up in the backfield, you know, on like some doing weird motion, like that creates problems for defenses because he runs as good as any other athlete, but now you throw in the fact that he can throw the ball better than a wide receiver could on a reverse, you know what I mean? Um why wouldn't Anthony Richardson do the same thing? Dog, if you're if you want to play football, not be in the NFL. I'm talking about play football. Quarterback is like the only position to where you can't go do something else. If you're a running back and you and you can't get on the field, well maybe you can be a kick returner. Oh, or you just hop on special teams and and just go tackle people until you until you get to run the ball. You still get to play football. So again, uh last thing, I'm sorry. Uh the last thing is, bro, like I understand that there was a time to where the league did not want black people playing quarterback, and a lot of black quarterbacks were forced to change positions. Tyrod talked about it today after being named a starter. He was like, People told wanted me to change to wide receiver, but I've been here 15 years. Like Tyrod Taylor. Yes. Tyrod Taylor is up there with your boy uh like Chase Daniel. He's known.
SPEAKER_05:He played way more games.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yes. He was a starter, he actually wasn't starter. He took the bills to the playoffs. Yeah, he broke the streak, the the drought.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, like but at because I didn't want to cut it off because I knew we were talking about the Falcons and the schedule and where the wins are, but to get to that point.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, oh, no, bro, I was pivoting us out of Falcons. We we we stayed there too long. No, we're like going in circles. Like, like we're we we we've got to get out of the Falcons. Like, we're for sure. No, for sure. Because we can field to make us talk about the league. We we no Falcons out.
SPEAKER_05:So, and but and then and and there goes the point. We're Falcons out. Mic drop on on that. Because we are we're Falcons out.
SPEAKER_02:Can we really can we really talk about what I wanted to open the show with today? But because I don't have the free time that I used to, that I just didn't really express it and go and and and talk about it.
SPEAKER_05:We can let me just at least finish off what you literally just said, at least when it came to the um idea of what Jeff T was talking about in terms of carving out a role for somebody like a Justin Fields, whether it be in a Taysom Hill type state. In the dark night, the Joker says this to Batman I'm not a monster, I'm just ahead of the curve. There's gonna take a time, or there will be a time where there is a coach that's gonna be innovative enough to understand an offense and use players like Justin Fields to the point at where they aren't necessarily even take some heels. They're gonna come into the game, especially if they add an extra NFL game with the way the quarterbacks go down. And you will have games where Justin Fields actually throws the ball six times, but the starting quarterback throws it 25 times. That's my belief. And I'm not trying to be the Bitcoin buy a dollar today worth in 2013 guy. But eventually, I feel like that is where the NFL is gonna go because they're gonna have no fucking choice but to go there. And in college football, it's already we've seen scenarios where David Green, DJ Shockley get some snap. Like, you see it in college a little. Uh Alex Orgy in uh Michigan with JJ McCartney. Like, you've seen it before. Like it's happened. Or Tim Tebow with Chris Lee.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I'm about to say a better version is Tim Tebow with Chris Lee.
SPEAKER_05:It's it's it happens, but the thing is, exactly, it's unpredictability. It's gonna take a special offensive mind to actually make it look good. Because plenty of people can put together the Wildcat, right? Like they used to run that shit in Miami. I don't know, that wasn't under saving, I don't think.
SPEAKER_02:But no, that was that was when Parcells was uh running Miami. He wasn't a head coach, but that's when he was down there running the pro.
SPEAKER_05:I I forgot who the coach was, but then they were, you know, Ronnie Brown, Carzville's own, getting direct snaps. And so, like and for a year and a half, that shit was working. Like crazy. Yeah, they went to the playoffs the year they did it, the first year. But like anything else, the league finds out. But that's why I said I'm not a monster, I'm just ahead of the curve.
SPEAKER_02:You are but and and and and to close that one out. Here's the problem with that work. One of the reasons why it won't work in the NFL, not because it can't be successful, is because even if the coaches have the plays for it, it Andy Reid's quarterback is too good to do anything like that, you know. Sean Payton doesn't have Taysom Hill on the roster. So, like, it you you gotta be a coach who's not afraid to get fired or super stable in your job to make that a thing because it is so against football culture. Like, oh, if you have two quarterbacks, you have zero quarterbacks. Uh the case. But it wouldn't be two quarterbacks. I I I know, I know, I know, I know it wouldn't, but people would say that, and it's like, why would you waste practice time on this package and and this and that? Like, you think your starter wants to give up throws? And it's like, dog, y'all coming up with all these fake ass excuses. And I can understand the starter not liking it, but didn't Drew Brees line up in like at wide receiver sometimes for the Saints and Taysom Hills took the snap?
SPEAKER_05:They they knew they weren't gonna throw, but yes, yes.
SPEAKER_02:But didn't they do it? Didn't Drew Brees actually like line up as a wide receiver? Yes. If Drew Brees can do it, I mean Tom Brady did it, it caught a pass.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Who who the hell are you? I mean Big Dick Nick did it. He's got he he's got a trophy, uh, I mean a Super Bowl, Super Bowl MVP, and a fucking statue. Nick Folk's. I just think quarterbacks should become quarterbacks need to stop being just quarterbacks and be football players. Uh I think this narrative around quarterbacks can't get hit, they have to do things a certain way. I I think it's bullshit, and it was created back in the day when they wanted a certain type of quarterback who was built a certain way, and those things were true. And obviously, if you take a lot of hits, your career is going to be shorter uh uh for for most people. But like when people talk about oh, Cam Newton took too many hits, did you? Nigga played 13 years in the NFL. Uh that's that's not bad. Or 10, 12 years, like, bro, like getting a fucking 10, 12 year professional football career is fine. Uh, but let's get to what we're really mad about.
SPEAKER_05:Well, we already got to what we're truly mad about, but I know exactly where you're headed here.
SPEAKER_02:I was more mad at that Monday night debacle, personally. Because I'd already given up on the Falcon season. Yes, I was pissed off that they lost to the to Carolina twice. Yeah, like I was pissed off about that game, but it didn't change how I felt about the season because to me the season was over. I gave up hope last week. Now uh what were your thoughts on the Monday night football game uh in Vegas?
SPEAKER_05:Well, we talked about it, obviously. I think that analytics are ruining football because people are looking more at what makes sense to go up more as opposed to taking points when the game is in hand, and then there's gamesmanship on the second time. But obviously the Cowboys did, I think what I certainly thought that they would do, which was beat the Raiders because the Raiders aren't a good football team. And the Cowboys aren't a good football team either. Uh they're a solid football team because they're good on one side, bad on the other. They look good on the other side of the ball because they did play against the most turnover-prone quarterback and just a dumpster-fired organization, something that the Falcons are becoming. Like the Raiders, your Browns, these organizations that are just, you know, they go decades with being without being relevant in any type of space. And even when they are somewhat relevant, they're still irrelevant. So that's where that's the path that the Falcons are. Thanks, Rich. But um, yeah, I thought that overall it was despicable. The idea that it's fourth and two and you're up 17 and there's four minutes left that you don't kick a field goal. It costs you a fantasy game, cost me$10,000,$2,000 on a$50 bet. Um, and then they turn it over on downs, Cassidi drops the pass or whatever, and then they get the ball back, and it's 2 30 left, and it's third down, and the ball has to get snapped before 2 30, and there's knees being taken, and there's not yeah, they oh remember after the fourth down, Dallas got the ball back. Yeah, that's what I'm I'm talking about that possession. Okay, when Dallas got it, like when the Raiders when they were deep in, yeah, they were in the red zone, and they need four straight times, even though the Raiders had three timeouts, and they got it on the other side of two minutes, not on the the the under two minutes side, but the over two minutes side. And the idea that uh, you know, they didn't try to score again, which I get it. I maybe at that point I understood that just a tad bit more. But well, I don't understand it from the Raiders in. The Raiders in, they can't win the game, but they couldn't win the game on the drive before either, in reality. And so at that point, that's why when we were on the phone, I said, well, you know, when it gets down to a certain point of the game, let's just knee it out the whole way. Let's just end the game. No, I'm saying before that turnover by Gino, Gino shouldn't even, as soon as the Cowboys went for it, the Cowboys should have kneed on first down that drive. Like, because it didn't, not only did it not make a difference, but the reality is even if the Raiders have scored, would that have changed anything in that game, considering it was a three-score game?
SPEAKER_02:No. Well, but but but hold on, hold on. And see, here's this is what analytics are doing and people not playing, right? You play to win the game, yeah. But the game is made up of plays. And as an athlete and competitor, you want to play those plays and win the play.
SPEAKER_06:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Hopefully, you want enough plays to win the game, or you win the right play so you can win the game. We're losing that. Also, I listen to NBA players. Again, different sport, but they talk about this all the time. Blowout, whether you up, you down, uh tight game, a little bit different, but you care. People care about getting their stats. So it can be bullshit time.
SPEAKER_05:And it's costing niggas money.
SPEAKER_02:But on, but it can be bullshit time in a game, and the starters are still in, they they haven't got pulled out yet, and whoever your guy is hadn't hit his his points per game average. You're like, oh shit, I only got 20. I need to get to 27. And we I know we only got three more minutes. He's gonna pull us because we ain't gonna come back. But it's enough time for us to make a run. Let me go get my points because I care about my stats. And again, basketball, you have a bit more control over that. But I just thought it was disgusting for competition. Like, these are competitive events, these are entertainment events. I understand the people inside the biz in the inside the building, on the football, on the sport side care about wins and losses, best players, all of that. But what allows you to make what you make doing this is the entertainment aspect that is built from competition. People like to watch competition. Humans love competition. Even non-competitive people are actually into competition, they're just not good at it, so they shy away from it because they don't want to look weak. You know what I mean? Like, like, like it's a human thing. Like, we like gladiators, we like boxing, we like fights, we like to see, we like these gladiators. It's not just about winning and calling the right play at the right time. Sometimes, yeah, that's very important. But sometimes it's about hey, I'm I'm I'm bigger than you, I'm faster than you, I'm stronger than you, I'm gonna beat you up. I got personal pride. You may have whooped my ass this game, but I didn't stop playing. And we've lost that because we've added fucking lean to goddamn sports. Hey, this isn't a fucking assembly line. We don't have to be the most efficient outfit possible because there's a human aspect to this. Physicality can break somebody's will.
SPEAKER_05:Physicality can break somebody's will. We're out here playing till the last whistle. That's what everybody says, right? I was just playing hard. You're not coaching hard.
SPEAKER_02:Like they come after players for for for fucking up in games to mess up the gambling, right? Well, if a team stops competing, if both teams stop competing in the middle of the game, what's the difference? Oh shit. The over didn't hit by one point.
SPEAKER_05:Crazy. One one way or another, the the the the consumer's the loser. Either way it goes, whether you bet on it, yeah, the under people are very happy. I'm sure that they are, but like the fantasy football owner that was going against the player that they needed, and it was one point, they're happy. But like at the end of the day, because because there's winners and losers on all sides of this stuff, but at the same time, this is why what they're doing can be detrimental just in general, because the idea is that, well, I signed up for 60 minutes, not 55, not 56. Bro, uh it's one thing to take a knee because you got a first down and it's a one-possession game. It's another thing to wear, well, we're in scoring position, now we're just not rubbing it in. I hope that one day that that Falcons Super Bowl. Now, granted, it's the third quarter when that comeback started at the end of it. But I hope that one day somebody blows a lead in the fourth quarter up three scores with four minutes, because they were decided to pussyfoot around. I hope it happens. I'm mad that the fucking Eagles didn't lose to the Lions. Not because I had money on the Lions, but more so because they went for it on fourth down, up 10 with four minutes left, and the Lions had all three timeouts and they were on their own 30. They got stopped, the Lions kicked the field goal, they made it. They got bailed out by a bullshit fucking PI call on third and long. And the Lions would have had a chance to tie that game and win it. Now, if he punts it, they have been stopping him all game. They didn't score or whatever. And I don't want to get away from the direct con because I guess we can get more into just the recap real quick. But like that is the type of shit that's a firable fucking offense for people. And like you said, there's incentives, there's a lot of things on the line. Yeah, get you when it comes to stuff, play the game like it should be played.
SPEAKER_02:Like coaches tell you to play to the through the to the whistle.
SPEAKER_05:Lee, I know that it's a it's a video game, but in Madden, if you're in the position the Cowboys were in, what would you probably do? You I know it's a video game, but like you probably would have kicked that field goal.
SPEAKER_02:Fourth and two, I kicked a field goal because this is football. I'm not gonna give you a free possession. I don't want a turnover on downs. I'm gonna take points.
SPEAKER_05:Or he throws a deep ball. No, he scores on the first. No, I'm talking about once the Cowboys went uh when they went for it on fourth down, didn't get it. Oh, when they get the first play, the first play he throws a deep ball. They score. Like they waste no time, they get 10 seconds off the clock. Then they get the onside kick. He kicks a field goal immediately. He still has all three timeouts. Like, but but but now all he needs, all he needs is a touchdown as opposed to well, he couldn't even kick a field goal after getting the onside kick.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I'm just gonna run, like, I'm gonna just and I and I and I know it's field position. Uh again, I'm gonna run the ball three plays in a row, make them call their timeouts, or get it down to the two-minute warning, then it's gonna be fourth down. I'm gonna kick a field goal. I'm gonna fucking squib kick it to make them have to return it uncomfortably. I'm gonna take that chance because I'm up by fucking 20 points under the two-minute warning.
SPEAKER_05:You secured a victory.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, like again, if we're gonna knock players, like players are facing legal stuff because they did not play to the best of their ability. And not that not the problem was that it affected the gambling because they were not playing purely. Correct. And we had an issue with that. I don't care if they were the reason why. The reason why it was a problem is because it affected the gambling. And then here affected the gambling, and we're just bro, no one's even talking about it. I haven't heard anybody complain about what the hell was Dallas and Vegas doing. I mean, was was Shoddy out with fucking CD and goddamn uh uh uh pickings?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, they might have made a bet on the roulette table that if it doesn't hit black, I see you boys got all black, if it hits red, I'm sending you out in first possession, and we're gonna see if everybody freaks the fuck out on Monday Night Football. Anyone that has your bet, the whole nine. And Shoddy's like, look, guys, they gave me this job anyways. I don't take it lightly, but I've already made it. I've already made it. My dad was uh should be Hall of Fame coach. Yeah. He coached many years in this league. I've been an OC. I've he didn't win a Super Bowl with Seattle, but like I've coached all this stuff. I got offense is humming. Jerry Jones, our boss is actually the same. Like, as crazy as it sounds, maybe I'm your supervisor, but our boss is the same. And at the end of the day, boss can get rid of the supervisor because you're top worker. Because that is how it works. That's how it works in the warehouse, too. Or anywhere. Like anything. There could be a supervisor, but if there's a star, that's the way it works. And so it's just like it's crazy from the perspective of what it is that we went through with it. I lose 2K, you lose a fantasy match, which leads to 2K because that betters your standing in our league pays out over 2K to win. Yeah. Right. So that there's money on the line potentially there.
SPEAKER_02:And so and last thing here with the fantasy, the way that I beat you was total bullshit. Yeah, I know. But but it was but it was real football. Yeah, he fumbled. I mean, if he fumbled. So you can so like you're obviously upset about it because it's bullshit. But you go, you know what? It was a football play. It happens in football.
SPEAKER_05:It's an eye for an eye. Um, but we when you watch the point because Bo Nick's knee three times and lost a yard on each knee. Right. That's how I be playing on a Monday night game.
SPEAKER_02:But even but even but even that, that is legitimate football. Yeah. They were up. They had the ball. And and that's what you do in that situation. But I'm not on the not on the top side of two minutes. But I've never seen two teams just take like eight and straight knees. Paul.
SPEAKER_05:Correct. Exactly. And no timeouts are spent. That's not playing until the whistle.
SPEAKER_02:No, uh, that's all the football I watch. So any and everything else is kind of on you. Uh well, no, I watched it.
SPEAKER_05:What time? How much time are we at? We've got 30 minutes. So yeah, we we but so I'll just quickly go through it. We already we didn't even talk actually about the Falcons game in depth because we had so much to get off our chest about that fucking sorry ass or something.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, the only other hey, honestly, the only other game that matters is the Chiefs losing. Like, we don't even have to go game by game. The Chiefs losing.
SPEAKER_05:No, yeah, we weren't gonna go game by game, but because we kind of already talked about the Cowboys and the Lions game. But but yeah, Chiefs lose. Uh, I mean, again, I wasn't that surprised. Like, I I think that the Broncos are well coached and they have a good defense. So the Chiefs aren't a lead on offense anymore. So it's not surprising that maybe a surprising they lost. It wasn't surprising that the Broncos covered. Like, um, I I'll give you a shocker. The shocker was the Jaguars Chargers game. I mean, the Chargers.
SPEAKER_02:Hold on. I I wanted to do a little bit on the Chiefs. Go ahead, go for it. Go for it. Do you think this is a step back season? Or are you gonna be like everybody else afraid to pick against them and just say, I just can't pick against Mahomes and Reed?
SPEAKER_05:I think that they're gonna still get into the playoffs somehow, somehow. Because uh, we talked about our Super Bowl six last week, and they were one of the teams I named. So I do think that I I'm not surprised that they lost, but I think that they get into the playoffs.
SPEAKER_00:Okay.
SPEAKER_05:All right, we can yeah which gives them a chance to win.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, but do you but do you think if they get in, they have a chance to win?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, because this year's top three seeds as it stands today are the Broncos, Patriots, and Colts, and none of those teams I think can beat Kansas City in a playoff game, even at home.
SPEAKER_02:Well, uh, the Indy plays the Chiefs this week in Erlang.
SPEAKER_05:In Kansas City, and we'll get to the picks a little bit later, but you'll see exactly how I feel about that game.
SPEAKER_02:The Chargers suck. Their offensive line's not there. Jim Harbaugh can't coach without the without his O-line.
SPEAKER_05:Correct. Steelers beat the Bengals. Uh they're talking about Joe Burrow might play this week. They that literally came down today. Now, they're only three games out, and they still have to play Baltimore twice themselves.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you play Joe Burrow. If he's healthy, you fucking play him. It doesn't matter where the season's at, you fucking play him.
SPEAKER_05:And Aaron Rodgers apparently tweaked his wrist. I mean, they said it wasn't a break, but not throwing arm, but like hey, none of that shit matters.
SPEAKER_02:The Bengals could have lost every game this year. If Joe Burrow is healthy, let the man fucking play football.
SPEAKER_05:And again, that's the one.
SPEAKER_02:The season ticket holders deserve that, by the way. Well, he's getting paid. Yeah, he's getting paid. Let him play. Like, fuck fuck tanking and and healthy and healthy players not playing because oh, we can get a better draft pick. Hey, big dog. I bought season tickets to watch this nigga play. He's healthy, put him on the field. All right, ran over.
SPEAKER_05:What else do we have to talk about? Nah, all good. All good. Uh obviously, uh that's pretty much it for this week. Just a quick preview of least games to watch. We don't have to go in depth about them, but Bills, Texas, tomorrow is interesting. CJ Stroud's not gonna play, but I think that the Bills obviously kind of a must-win for them. It's crazy. They're 7-3, and it feels like a must-win for them because New England's got a two-game, really a two and a half game lead because they already beat them in Buffalo at that. Um Steelers, Bears will be interesting because obviously uh Aaron Rodgers owns the Bears, but he's also injured. And I feel like this could be a get-right game for him. He is not a part of the picks. Uh we're not even gonna get into the Joe Burrow thing. Uh, what's another just game? Colt Chiefs, we kind of already spoke about just a little bit there. Uh, another game to watch. Eagles Cowboys, I think, will be super entertaining, considering how well the Eagles defense has looked. And then uh Bucks Rams on uh Sunday night should be highly entertaining considering how well the Rams have played. But what says you? What do you think about this week's slate in general?
SPEAKER_02:Uh I'll watch the back end of whatever four o'clock game is on my TV. I'll watch Sunday night football and I'll watch Monday night football.
SPEAKER_05:Gotcha, gotcha. Well, then here we'll we'll do a two-minute huddle, uh, two-minute drill here for the college football. College football uh released their rankings again. This was the what third one. Um obviously, I think that at this point the top five teams are here to stay no matter what happens, and that's Ohio, Indiana, Texas AM. Now Georgia at four, obviously, because Bama lost to Oklahoma, and then Texas Tech is five. I don't think that there's anything that could really remove those two, those teams. Um they're gonna be there, but then it followed up with uh who was six? Fuck. Uh because I'm not looking at it. Um I think Oregon was six. I know Oklahoma was eight. Regardless, the point is, and I I don't want to put out uh misinformation on this podcast because that's not what we're about. But point being, that shuffle between 11 and fucking six is gonna be so jumbled up, depending on how this season ends. Texas AM, they escaped against South Carolina in a game that they were favored by about four scores.
SPEAKER_02:Why are you not talking about Kirby fucking taking a kid on start? Like you're you're you're talking about Texas AM uh uh coming back and beating South Carolina. Nobody gives a fuck about South Carolina's sorry ass. No, it's not about Kirby beating Texas, kicking the inside the kick 35 to 10, and then going in the post-game pressure and saying some coaches are giving out checks. You know, if you want to check here, you gotta be physical.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah. And that's all that matters this weekend. And and again, and look, and I went against my code of taking, you know, this is how you know that Falcon stuff's gotten to me. I took Texas seven and a half in our picks last week. Uh, we went four and two in both, by the way, guys. But um unfortunately, obviously, Texas did not cover, but it the same well, fortunately, they actually they didn't, but like it isn't surprising that Georgia won the game. I think that I was a little bit surprised at how much they dominated them, but it it told us the story of Texas this year. Everything about Texas has been not this I'm not gonna say fraudulent, but like they're not certainly what they were ranked to be.
SPEAKER_02:It tells the story of SEC Texas. People like the idea of Texas in the AC in the SEC.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But Kirby said what he said for a reason. That was the SEC version of bruh, y'all ain't swag.
SPEAKER_05:Because they're not.
SPEAKER_02:They're not Texas is like the most overhyped program of my lifetime, by the way.
SPEAKER_05:But they didn't move too far down in the rankings, they're number 15, and so they're not good. They lost to fucking Florida. But I want you to look at it this way: if there's a three-loss SEC team that gets in, they will let them in. And the reason why is this ratings. Miami's not getting in.
SPEAKER_01:Ratings.
SPEAKER_05:I don't care what anyone says, Miami won't get in. There's gonna take a lot for Miami to get in if they don't win the ACC. Ratings, but it's the same thing with uh now with Notre Dame, of course, they can say we lost to Miami who is rated, and we lost to AM. But if Texas beats AM, because Texas plays Texas AM uh Thanksgiving weekend, not only now, and they could kind of fuck up the college football trajectory if they win that game, because this is what happens. Even though Bama lost to Oklahoma, and Oklahoma lost to Texas, if Texas beats AM, Georgia plays in the SEC championship against Bama. So you get a rematch. But if AM beats Texas, and as long as Alabama doesn't lose, I forgot who they play this week, but like if Alabama wins. So it'll be Banner and AM, assuming that Texas AM beats Texas.
SPEAKER_02:Right, and then we'll be able to do that.
SPEAKER_05:And then Georgia sets, which Georgia will still be a top four seed because they got rid of that good fucking rule.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe not, maybe not. Georgia might move up to three depending on the.
SPEAKER_05:Only if Bama wins. Only if Bama wins the game.
SPEAKER_02:Well, well, well, Bama wins. Well, I'm saying they could move up to as high as three if if no, never mind. Yeah, no, if A.
SPEAKER_05:Bama's gonna be above it would still be four. Yeah, they're gonna even that two off Bama SEC champion. It's gonna it's gonna be above Georgia. It's gonna trump Georgia. And they beat them. And they beat them at Georgia, too.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, because like Indiana, Indiana will drop if that game's ugly.
SPEAKER_05:But they would drop to three, to me at most, if it's a close game to Ohio State. And vice versa. If Ohio State loses to Indiana, I don't think that either of them drops past three.
SPEAKER_02:Well, no, if it's if it's close, they stay right where they are because they're one and two. Which is bullshit. Nah, they can't do that. No, no, if it's a close game.
SPEAKER_05:Only if, only if, only, like you said, if it's close and if it's a close game, then like they're not gonna be able to do that. But that's if AM, that's if AM loses to Bama.
SPEAKER_02:I'm saying all I said was if if it's if it if the game is ugly, Indiana drops tremendously. Notre Dame is gonna get in as long as they don't lose because what is tremendous to you?
SPEAKER_05:I don't think they drop out of the top five.
SPEAKER_02:There'll be five. I got I got you, but it's still it's still a big drop when when you lost to the number one team in the country, and none of the teams who are below it got waxed. Hey, man, it's college football.
SPEAKER_05:I'm just saying you have to get waxed in that scenario.
SPEAKER_02:But hey, you want to talk about this Major League Baseball TV deal?
SPEAKER_05:I I I did. I was gonna say that kind of for the ending here, because that's it's not too much of a talk topic. I know that we're a little limited on time, but uh yeah. See, now I gotta pull it back up. That's but basically, long story short, it sounds like uh ESPN will now be carrying baseball games, which they kind of were on ESPN Plus, anyways. It wasn't all of them, but now it sounds like the resolution to now it's called FanDuel Sports because that's what does the Hawks regional stuff and stuff, and it used to be Fox Sports, but now it's gonna be just ESPN, it's pretty much covering all the regional blackout, all that stuff games that aren't nationally televised. While Netflix gets the home run derby, the uh Field of Dream games, and it was another game. Maybe it was opening day. Yes, opening day. It's opening day. NBC is gonna get Sunday night baseball, and then they're also gonna get it was other stuff that they get playoffs like playoff first round or something. And it sounds like Fox is just completely out of it. So I'm like, so, or unless they aren't out of it and they still have the World Series because it didn't say anything about the World Series. I don't think Fox gave up the World Series, so Fox will still get the World Series then, and I'm assuming that FS1 will still get when there's uh more than just uh the bullshit national game on a Tuesday. Yeah, but the fact that NBC is throwing his hat in there, I don't ever recall NBC ever having baseball games. At least maybe regionally they did, but like nationally, they've never had. So then I'm like, well, well, who's gonna be calling it? Or is it gonna be Tarico? Like, who the fuck's calling the baseball game?
SPEAKER_02:They got that, they they did that merger, bro. They got cash, they can do shit. That's what they're gonna do.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, seems to me like uh I mean it sounds like monopoly, but look at that. Oh, oh, oh, and ESPN also now owns MLB network as part of the deal, which is the same as them having the NFL network, basically, or the deal that's being discussed for the NFL.
SPEAKER_02:What's going on in in a lot of industries is oligopoly, and at the end of the day, people like you and I get fucked because now they just get to fucking catch that ass. Yeah, they get to control they get to control, they get to control the prices, and they'll work together they'll collude together on prices, and and execs will bounce around from net from the three networks, the three parent companies, so they have all that inside information and friends who they just go to have drinks with and they just say something, and then that influences something, you know. But yeah, it's all bullshit. We're all just getting fucked.
SPEAKER_05:Getting fucked hard too.
SPEAKER_02:Um Hey, did you watch any of that? Did you did you see LeBron play last night?
SPEAKER_05:Uh I didn't watch the game, but what I did see was uh we took his uh over on his assist, and I saw you sent me the clip where he got six of them in three minutes or something. Um I mean that seriously. I think that LeBron is great for basketball because he's a staple in every generation, and he's one of the few people that a lot of people will be able to say they actually saw play and that he did it at a high level for a long time. Now, this was one game and he's coming off of an injury he's never had. It's a foreign injury to him. What I think is gonna happen, because I didn't realize, did you realize that Austin Reeves through this point in the season, him and Luca are both in the top 10 in scoring?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, Austin Reeves is averaging 28. Luca's after 34.
SPEAKER_05:So this is what I think is gonna happen. I think that LeBron's gonna take on more of a role of Magic Johnson. And I hate to say it, sound it like because he's on the Lakers, but I think that he is gonna take on more of a role where he's okay with averaging 17, 12.
SPEAKER_00:No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER_02:No, I I don't think that he's no no no no lee. Hey, look, like like no no you can you can make your point, and I'm just gonna go ahead and tell you LeBron James is not gonna average 17 fucking points a game.
SPEAKER_05:I didn't say he was gonna average 17, I said he was gonna take on a magic role. Now, I'm just naming a random like magic year.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, no, he's gonna average.
SPEAKER_05:I'm sure that James there were years where James Worthy and Kareem both averaged more than magic. I'm sure there's probably been one at least.
SPEAKER_02:LeBron's gonna average 23 or 25 a game.
SPEAKER_05:We'll see. I think that the numbers are gonna take a dip. It's just been one game. He had 11 points. Obviously, he wasn't very aggressive, he didn't shoot the ball that much. But what I took away from it, though, is that and he was interviewed. They asked him the question after the game, you know, how do you see yourself fitting in? You know, obviously things had been going somewhat well. How do you fit in? And he said that, you know, my entire life, I've played positionless basketball. He brought up a quote from Spo, and uh he he essentially said that, you know, I am somebody that can fit into any situation, which is very true. LeBron has that versatility, like that is what's made him so special his entire career. Because he, although he's the all-time leading scorer in the NBA, nobody thinks of LeBron is a scorer, right? And he's third and assists as well. LeBron's on paper is the greatest player to have ever played the game. There's no debating that. He's already been passive, so passive isn't the right word. But like just more of a if Austin Reeves is the guy that night, he will take over when he needs to.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, you're not getting to your you're not getting to your conclusion, and we're right out of the way. That is my conclusion. Austin Reeves is averaging 28. His average is gonna come down to somewhere between like 25 and 24. Maybe even 22.
SPEAKER_05:So LeBron will be the third leading score.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, he will maybe. I don't know. That's what I'm saying. Well, you're saying that I don't know what LeBron's number. You just said he was gonna average 23. Well, I don't know what Austin Reid's number. I'm not as confident in Austin Reid's number as I am in LeBron getting to 25. LeBron's gonna get to 24, 25, bro. It's gonna happen. Lucas, it's it's Lucas, oh, oh, oh, oh, no, hold on!
SPEAKER_03:I got you.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, how do you think? I gave you like three minutes on him. It's Lucas team. Lucas gonna cook. Lucas gonna average fucking 30. His 34 is gonna drop to 30. Austin Reeves 28 is gonna drop. LeBron's gonna fight. LeBron's gonna get his 25. Now, Austin Reeves, his three-point percentage is shitty. Austin Reeves is gonna get some easier shots. Lucas gonna get some easier shots. And because Austin Reeves has been killing, LeBron's gonna get some easier shots because you're gonna have to double somebody. And if you do, you you're the other options aren't great. You know what I mean? So the Lakers are just gonna be a more efficient, their offense is gonna get more efficient just by the nature of LeBron James being on the court. And look, you don't need Luke and Austin Reeves averaging 34 and 28 long term. But LeBron also passive because the Lakers have been winning, and he's not gonna come in and disrupt chemistry and play his way.
SPEAKER_05:LeBron should be happy about it, anyways. It preserves him even more. He doesn't have to go as hard, except for what's going on.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, where are we at on time? My iPad just died.
SPEAKER_05:We got nine minutes, but we got plenty of time. We got plenty of time, but Steph's Nike. For sure. But just real quick, all I'm gonna say is this I'm excited to see what the Lakers do. I'm still a Lakers fan. I want them to do well.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I thought your Lakers. Never mind, let me not say that. No, I'm still a fan, but yeah, no, I was gonna say something, and it was not it was not gonna be a dark joke, but it was gonna sound like it, so I don't want to say that.
SPEAKER_05:For one minute, then before we get to Steph and Nike, uh Hawks, I mean we have to talk about it. Hometown team, five-game win street. They lost to Detroit yesterday, who's super duper hot, but like not hot, they're the best team in the East right now. Well, Detroit. But I'm saying we were just as hot. I mean, the Hawks were on a five-game win street, they lost at home. Hawks have a terrible home record, which is so not Hawks. The Hawks normally win at home, but regardless, has management finally got themselves a winning hand real quick. They can do what they kind of want. They got the number one pick from the Pelicans. Trey Young's on ice, and they're still winning. So they kind of everything's in management's hands now.
SPEAKER_02:I don't trust them, so no.
SPEAKER_05:But we got a new GM.
SPEAKER_02:This is same owner.
SPEAKER_05:That's true too. That's true too.
SPEAKER_02:All right, you know, the owner that the owner who got rid of Slink, what, two years after the Hawks had like their best season in history? I'm sorry. That's true. Sorry, Dominique.
SPEAKER_05:So Steph Curry, obviously, you said the deal, report it seven years, like seven, eighty years. Something ridiculous. What do you think happened with Steph Curry in Under Armour? Do you think that he just wanted to leave, or did they knew that he could get more and they didn't want to pay it?
SPEAKER_02:Like no, it it wasn't it wasn't the money in the contract. Right? Nike had to pay that deal, that that dollar figure, because of what Under Armour is willing to pay Steph. But what Nike can do for Steph as he ends his career, he might actually get some classic shoes that will that will outlive his basketball playing, and that's what that's what you need as a player to help keep you relevant as you're no longer playing. Uh uh he wants to do his Steph Curry brand. I'm sure the infrastructure at Nike actually makes his brand become more viable as he's no longer playing. Because Nike has experience with the Jordan brand, with what what LeBron has done, uh so on and so forth, and uh and and Kobe as well. Like Kobe, because that's the one that's killing. You know what I'm saying? But Steph needed to get away from Nike uh Under Armour. Like you're too good to be wearing them bum ass shoes. Niggas ain't wearing Under Armour. Steph like might shoot up the top t the top NBA rankings just off of having Nikes now, because he's gonna have that whole campaign behind him. Thank God I can finally get a Steph Curry shoe.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, and hopefully, uh, I mean, obviously he wore Kobe's that first game as a free agent, but like uh hopefully he gets a shoe that can be something of that mold because although it's no shots to LeBron, LeBron's had a couple of nice, really like a really nice pair of Nikes. But for the most part, I mean maybe niggas do wear LeBron's. I never wore them hoobing, but like I'm talking about I'm talking about playing basketball.
SPEAKER_02:Well, LeBron, you gotta understand LeBron is 6'9, 260, 70 pounds, depending on what year it is, 250 pounds. The type of shoe that he needs is not appealing to most people.
SPEAKER_05:I'm with you. Yeah, it's gotta be fucking construction worker shoes. But like what I'm saying is even Caitlin Clark, who some people dub as the woman Steph Curry, her PE is a Kobe. Now, I'm not saying that you're gonna make Kobe's first Curry. Curry's gonna have his own signature with that amount of money. They gotta have, they have to fucking do it, but like they're gonna take that mold. Yeah, I hope that it's more of that uh uh design.
SPEAKER_02:That's all Kate also hey, Kate also has a shoe coming next year, too.
SPEAKER_05:And he looked like he deserves it.
SPEAKER_03:Um let's get to the picks, ladies and gentlemen. It is time for Parlay P's College Football 6.
SPEAKER_05:666. All right, so we're gonna kick this thing off and we're gonna move swiftly. We got Oklahoma State at Central Florida. I like Central Florida to cover the number. Oklahoma State's a dumpster fire, guys. I promise you, minus 13 and a half central Florida at home. Easy money. Next, we got South Florida at UAB. We cashed on South Florida last week. We're gonna cash on them again this week. Uh we're gonna take South Florida minus 20.5 at UAB. Uh then next, we got Arkansas and Texas. I think Texas deserves a little bounce back love. Give me Texas minus nine and a half. They're plus money here. I'm gonna take it. Um, Missouri at Oklahoma. I don't think that Oklahoma falls flat on their face. Missouri's got a backup quarterback. Give me Oklahoma minus six and a half uh down there in Edmond. And then we got USC at Oregon. I really love uh USC plus ten and a half. It's honestly odd that the spread is that big because I don't think the Oregon's proven enough. And then finally, uh, this is just a layup type bet. Duke at North Carolina. Give me Duke LaMoney line because Duke stays alive for the ACC championship.
SPEAKER_02:Alrighty. I don't have anything to write with uh I'll send it to you.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, I'll send it.
SPEAKER_03:Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for Parlay P's NL 6.
SPEAKER_05:666. All right, so we'll be really brief here, too. Uh, we're gonna start off with the bang. So it's my upset of the week. I don't give a fuck if Joe Burrow is playing or not. It's a true story, and just because I have to tell it. The Bengals and the Patriots played last year to start the season. The spread was eight. Everything is symmetric with the start of that uh that game last year at the start of the season. The spread is eight. I'm gonna take the Patriots at the Bengals. Bengals money line. They're big underdogs here. Patriots have won nine in a row or eight in a row. Let me get the Bengals on the money line. Next, we got the Seahawks at the Titans. I'm gonna take the Seahawks minus 13. They've dominated uh on the road this year. They are probably the best road team in the NFL. Next, we got the Colts at the uh Kansas City Chiefs. I like the Chiefs minus two and a half. I think that their backs are against the wall, and that's the type of team that can thrive against their backs against the wall. Next, we got Monday night football. Carolina Panthers at San Francisco 49ers. Somebody's gonna show the Panthers who they really are. It's the 49ers. Let me get the 49ers six and a half at home on Monday night. Next, we got the Giants at the Lions in Detroit coming off a loss like they did. They're about to run up the fucking score. Let me get the Lions minus nine and a half. Can't believe that line's that low. And then finally, Eagles at Cowboys. I like over 46 and a half, sir.
SPEAKER_02:Alrighty. You like it. I love it. It's time for Lee's three. All right, I got a minute. Give me Texas, Seattle, and the Niners.
SPEAKER_05:There we go.
SPEAKER_02:Check the description for those numbers. Hey, thanks for the great show. Thanks for the birthday wishes. Uh, hey guys, sorry we didn't get to everything because um we hate we got about we got about 50 seconds. We hate and love the Falcons, and um they deserve this show. They deserve this show, and uh hey Steve. I didn't have anything for you today. Next week, we'll be back.
SPEAKER_05:You yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then also shout outs to the to the fucking degenerates that were in the YouTube comment section because I just pulled it back over and I'm looking at this dumbass shit that they put. Somebody said my favorite Kanye West feature is the 1940s German leader. Crazy.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, yo, that's wild. That's not cool. But hey, shout out to the people shout out to the people who uh were in the comments. We appreciate the engagement. But hey, we'll do this again next week. I'll let you peep.
SPEAKER_05:Salutations, good people.
