Culturally Inappropriate with A.C. Lee
Unfiltered. Unapologetic. Unafraid to say what needs to be said.
Culturally Inappropriate with A.C. Lee is where sharp wit meets grown-man perspective. A mature rebrand of Big Baby’s Podcast, this show dives headfirst into the intersections of sports, politics, hip-hop, and culture—without watering down the truth.
From the barbershop to the boardroom, A.C. Lee blends humor, intellect, and raw honesty to tackle the conversations others avoid. Each episode brings bold takes, cultural critique, and unapologetic storytelling shaped by Southern roots, Cartersville pride, and Atlanta energy.
If you’re tired of safe conversations and cookie-cutter commentary, you’ve found your spot. This isn’t about being politically correct—it’s about being culturally inappropriate.
Culturally Inappropriate with A.C. Lee
The Wing War: Lemon Pepper vs Buffalo
The red helmets look perfect under lights, but great uniforms don’t win games—great plans do. We open with why Atlanta’s throwbacks should be permanent and quickly get to the meat: how the Falcons can turn a primetime moment into a statement against Buffalo. We break down Josh Allen’s stress points, why half-sacks and layered tackles matter, and the quiet chess match in the seams with Dalton Kincaid. On offense, we map a run-first script behind Bijan and Tyler, then show how to unlock Drake London and punish a secondary that can be had if you’re patient and intentional.
From there, we zoom out. The Patriots’ upset offered a masterclass in composure and coaching—encouraging a player after a mistake, then trusting him to deliver. Denver reminded everyone that winning ugly is still winning. And yes, we talk culture vs. production with Michael Vick: celebrating the phenomenon while being honest about the on-field hierarchy. That honesty carries into college football, where transfer-fueled volatility makes preseason polls feel outdated and where young quarterbacks need fit and time more than hot takes.
We also cut through media noise—name respect, overexposure, and branding that becomes the story—because fans deserve coverage that matches their intelligence. If you’re here for football, you’ll get it: practical matchups, clear strategy, and picks with reasons. If you’re here for energy, you’ll get that too—storylines, nostalgia, and a crowd challenge to make Monday night feel like an 80–20 home edge. Hit play, ride the throwback wave, and tell us: are the Falcons ready to look the part and play the part? Subscribe, share with a friend, and drop your score prediction—we’ll read the best ones on the next show.
Don't you just love that elevator music to start the show?
SPEAKER_04:I thought we were at a hootin annie. I didn't realize it was uh elevator. Oh, you're talking about the cowdown music. Oh, you're talking about this right here. Yeah, I thought you were doing the hoot. I thought you were talking about the hootin annie.
SPEAKER_03:Why I did it through the water.
SPEAKER_04:Where will we ever hear this song at?
SPEAKER_01:At a hootin annie. Scar You know, I I like little I like the upbeat country music. I'm not gonna lie to you.
SPEAKER_04:See you big friend of the chicken frog. Cold beer on a Friday night. A pair of jeans that fit just right.
SPEAKER_01:And the radio. Yeah, man. Back in my San Diego days, I used to go to the country bars a lot because you know, um they like rhythm there, and there's not much.
SPEAKER_04:Well, that's also where the lunch pail guys go. You know, the guys that want paps blue ribbon, the guys that uh want a ham sandwich with uh lettuce, tomato, and mayo on it. They like buffalo wings, not lemon pepper hot.
SPEAKER_03:You're funny, you know that.
SPEAKER_04:You know, I won class clown in high school. I mean, I know that's eons ago, but it's true I did.
SPEAKER_01:Hold on, you won class clown for real?
SPEAKER_04:Uh seriously, it's in the yearbook and everything. I was I was that was my surprise. I won class clown. Were you were you not offended by that? No, I think that you gotta understand the reason people think I'm funny. It's not because I try to be. People just think I'm a funny person for whatever reason.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I I I just thought, you know, given where you went to school and you know, kind of how how, you know, your demographics, that could have been a touchy subject, you know, back in 2011.
SPEAKER_04:Well, not even. I just think that a lot of people found me funny because, like, I don't know. I'm you know, some people think I sound, I've got a unique sound of voice. People just think I'm funny. My eyes and shit, like some of the body language I give. People think it's funny.
SPEAKER_01:You got you got uh you got uh two minutes? You got a two you got a two-minute bit, voice?
SPEAKER_04:Uh not for free.
SPEAKER_01:Not for free. That's what that's what she said.
SPEAKER_04:Wow, that's what she always says. But uh how are we doing this?
SPEAKER_01:Oh man, I'm good. I'm good, I'm good. Uh how about yourself?
SPEAKER_04:Hey, we're hanging tight, we got a big day tomorrow and just been prepping, prepping, and so feeling good.
SPEAKER_01:What if I told you that? Like if you if when you asked me like uh how are you doing, if I said like, hey man, I'm honestly I'm in the abyss right now. How would that like response change on air?
SPEAKER_04:I'd say, hey guys, we're gonna take a break here. Give us about 10 minutes, we'll be right back.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that's a great guy. If you tell me that, I'll probably say push through, buddy. We'll talk about it after.
SPEAKER_04:I'd say we'll get into that. Um you know, from there.
SPEAKER_01:But on a serious note, I would assume that we would have covered that in pre-production or like leading up to the show. So if you dropped a bomb on if you dropped a bomb on me like that, pause. Um whoa. Oh, sorry guys.
SPEAKER_04:Whoa, maybe that was appropriate.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but uh face down or face up rather. Oh man, don't remind me about face down. Look, I'm just saying, you know. Calling back to pre-production, but nah, uh yeah, nah, like I because we talk throughout the week and have pre-production. If if like you dropped a bomb on me like that during the show, I would think you were like joking.
SPEAKER_04:I think that uh you wouldn't have done it. So it's it's it's it's it's it's pointless at this point.
SPEAKER_01:Like hey man, I uh you're right. But you know it's not pointless.
SPEAKER_04:What's that?
SPEAKER_01:This throwback we got planned for uh Sunday night or Monday night, excuse me.
SPEAKER_04:Whoa, you know, but that fits there too, this throwback, huh?
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, I'm sure uh that could be applicable to some people who go to the games because the NFL has a um inviting atmosphere to people of all backgrounds, creeds, denominations, so on and so forth. All are welcome to watch football.
SPEAKER_04:See the wham in a circle. Could be that type of throwback too, you know.
SPEAKER_01:You know, I'm looking forward to uh moving back to the city. I think I'm gonna be like a a heavy strip club guy.
SPEAKER_04:But why? Why would you want to be?
SPEAKER_01:I like the environment.
SPEAKER_04:Just women shaking their ass, huh? Yeah. Smelling like smoke, old, old, old chicken wing grease fries, some some some extra crispy lemon pepper steppers. Yeah.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I'm like super creative in that environment.
SPEAKER_04:30$30 shots.
SPEAKER_01:Well, see, that's the thing. I'm not gonna be in there just getting hammered. And part of me being a regular is I'm gonna work, I'm gonna work the bartender. I'm not gonna be a big spender, so I'm not gonna get a lot of attention from the ladies, which is fine. It's just that environment, man. The music, the atmosphere, the ambiance.
SPEAKER_04:The women. I mean, let's just call it what it is. If the women weren't there and everything else remained the same, you wouldn't go. Well, you wouldn't the women are what makes that environment that environment. That's why it's it's it's background noise, right? Ultimately, that you can, if you want to, you can like it's like you talked about elevator music. Imagine some elevator music sitting, and then you, but you're in the elevator and you're like, damn, this is kind of busting. Like, turn it up. Turning it up is you going over to them, yeah, but it's background noise.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, absolutely. It's mainly gonna be me just sitting there chilling on my phone, texting, looking at scores, putting shit in my notes, and developing thoughts and ideas.
SPEAKER_04:I think Dave Chappelle said he did something similar to that at one point. He said he went there in one of the specials. I don't remember if he was it's probably a joke, but like he said something about reading a book or some shit. Uh he literally he referenced it was Magic City specifically that he talked about.
SPEAKER_01:Well, see, I don't plan on being a magic guy, you know. We're gonna find us a lower lower strip club where you're down to the new follies. I I doubt it. Why not? Yeah, I'm probably not gonna live on that side of town. You gonna go to Pinups? Look here, man. We're gonna find a place that's close, and we're gonna make friends there, and and it's gonna be a vibe. And you're gonna come hang out with me. You're gonna come hang out with me there sometimes, and you're gonna be like, why are we here? It's just like, why not?
SPEAKER_04:Well, you know that the people I know are at magic. Yeah, no, well, and and not just the stripper. I'm saying I know the security. I know I thought me and him, we follow each other on this, you know. I know the security dude too. So, like, well, I I was thinking about it. Shout out to Super if he's watching.
SPEAKER_01:I wasn't talking about any women, honestly. I was I was just talking about, you know, with you living so close. I imagine you made some relationships there uh from the times that you decided to go there because I know you and you make friends everywhere you go.
SPEAKER_04:Absolutely. That's uh that's the name of the game.
SPEAKER_01:Should we talk about the Falcons finally?
SPEAKER_04:I mean, yeah, I don't see why not. I don't see why not. But the I know it started off because we were talking about the throwback unis, which please, uh Arthur Blank, Rich McKay, whoever actually is in control. Can we and actually really it's Rich. I don't know if Rich has anything to do with how the NFL works his uniform policies. I know he's caught competition too many, but I don't know if that has anything to do with competition. But can we please just make these permanent? I mean, yeah, they should be holding our holding holding because we have in it. Yeah, and then since now we can do two helmets, make the road jersey helmet, the black version of that red helmet, like the the 90s version of the Falcons, make that that with the white, and then let's get the silver britches back and we're good to go. Yeah, yeah, just just bring back the the the dirty bird uniforms. Sounds, I mean, it sounds pretty easy to me. Cause then because then they can pull out the Michael Vick starting Matt Ryan ending era jerseys as a throwback in five years, where they wear the all black that Vic wore, or we never have had it all red, but you could wear the all black or something, right? And whip that helmet in it's like okay, this is refreshing again because it's been a minute, the nostalgia's kicking in.
SPEAKER_01:That all black from the Vic era was so nice, and I really hate it in the Matt Ryan era. We became a uh a red top, white bottom team.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I like I like the red and the white, don't get me wrong, but you know, coming into that jersey pack, the red was the alternate, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it was. They they wore the black, obviously, uh with the black and then um white on white.
SPEAKER_01:I had the red Vic 7 back in the day.
SPEAKER_04:Same. That was that was the jersey. That was the jersey everybody, the reebok, yeah, with the NFL equipment right there. Yeah, yeah, no, the V-neck, yeah. Yeah, man. That was a that was a time. It was a time, and and and that's why anyone that hears me ever talk about the Falcon. I don't want them to think I didn't like Michael Vick. I did. I love Michael Vick. Um, I'm happy, I'm super happy for him now, more than anything. But how many people think you don't like Michael Vick though? Because I refuse to to kiss the ring and say he was the best quarterback or Falcon ever when he wasn't, he's neither. I mean, it's just the truth. It doesn't mean I didn't like him.
SPEAKER_01:So so he wouldn't be. Would you put him on your uh uh your Falcons Mount Rushmore?
SPEAKER_04:If we're talking everything and not just playing, yes. But if we're talking strictly playing, no, he wouldn't be on it. He's not one of the four best performing Falcons of all time. He's one of the four most popular, and I think what he brought to the franchise, nobody else has brought to it. So nah, Matt Ryan sold out too. We we were winning games, you know what I mean? That's how you sell out normally. That's how you should be selling out.
SPEAKER_01:Well, Michael Vic just sold out because he showed up.
SPEAKER_04:Good for him. He's a very popular player at the time. I mean, I don't, you know, again, this is what I'm saying. I don't have an issue with Vic. I think I have an issue with Vic fandom. Vic fandom is what the issue is. It's it's an overrated take on a guy that people didn't really watch. They just knew he was on the team, he's on the video game, he's in TI's music videos. Like, like culturally, he's a phenomenon. And you know, I understand that. That's why for my Falcons, Mount Rushmore, he's not on it if we're talking strictly ball. If we're talking everything considered, he's on it. But if we're talking strictly ball, he wouldn't be on mine. So you're I can name four falcons better than him.
SPEAKER_01:So your issue is Michael Vick fans, not Michael Vick.
SPEAKER_04:Correct.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:Sounds kind of backwards considering he was the one fighting the dogs, but I have to we have to give Michael Vick credit. If he doesn't fight dogs, Matt Ryan's never a Falcon. He isn't. He's probably in Miami, potentially to at least have taken them to the Super Bowl, he'd be considered the second greatest dolphin, certainly quarterback ever. Or he could even be the best. Who knows? He could have maybe won down there. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:Like so you're thankful that Michael Vick fought dogs, so we end up getting the greatest Falcons quarterback ever. That's what you're telling me.
SPEAKER_04:I'm saying, have you ever heard the story of the Chinese farmer?
SPEAKER_01:I've not. Please enlighten me.
SPEAKER_04:Well, Chinese farmer goes to a village boy and he says, you know, I need this, that, and the third for this, but maybe not. Then that boy didn't take whatever it was. I'm also just summarizing this, guys. I don't know it word for word. But essentially, the point of the story is that it's a butterfly effect of events. At the end of the day, if that doesn't happen, more than likely he's not a Falcon. So do am I happy he fought dogs? Absolutely not. We had just paid him a 10-year, like$15 million contract. Uh, or maybe it was$150, actually. He was getting like$15 a year, which was at the time was high. Right? Like 10 years, too. Yeah, yeah. So we were tied to him, and I'm sure that voided the entire contract, but he lied to Arthur Blank, which you know, he remember he was at the draft that year, and they asked him about it, he lied about it. And like, I mean, I get it. Is he gonna get on ESPN and say, yeah, we're fighting dogs over there? What's it to you? Like, he's not gonna say that. And so, like, I get it, but I would love to I'm not gonna talk about that. If you if ESPN would like, they can reach out to my attorneys, but I'm here to talk football. If you guys want to talk football, we'll talk football. Don't have me on then.
SPEAKER_01:Like, so you're mad at Vic for not coming clean off the hey man, let's get to the Falcons.
SPEAKER_04:I'm not about to sit here and get into a Michael Vick rabbit hole. Uh, shout out to Michael Vick. I hope I'm not sure how well Norfolk State's doing, but shout out to him for going back home and trying to do something in his community.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, shout out to Michael Vick, man. Shout out to Michael Vick. Uh so parlay Pete, man. We got the Bills coming into town uh uh for Monday night football, Monday nights in Atlanta. Uh, you know what Falcons do. We rise up, we got the throwback units, we got the Bills coming off of a tough loss to the Patriots on a last second drive by Drake May. And we got the Falcons coming off of a bye and a uh solid win versus Washington, uh, who looked freaking amazing Sunday against uh Jim Harbaugh and the boys. Uh so what are your thoughts on the Bills coming into town?
SPEAKER_04:Um, you know, these are always special. It's been eight years since the last time we played them. I was at the last time we played them. That was the 2017 season. And um I think when we lost to them, we dropped a four and four, and this was halfway through. It was at the mid-boy point of the season. Tyrod Taylor was the quarterback. This was actually the year the Bills first made the playoffs. I want to say it was maybe McDermott's first year, or maybe Rex was still there. I don't remember. But Tyrod Taylor was the quarterback, and Bill's mafia showed up and showed out, man. They had even then, and this was again before they had made the playoffs. Like, you know, the Bills hadn't been to the playoffs at that time since like 01. It's been a very long time. And um, yeah, it was it was it was a fun and amazing game, and I'm hoping for the same thing to come this Sunday, uh, this Monday. And um yeah, we got ourselves a handful coming in with Josh Allen. Certainly, um, that is gonna be the biggest challenge for the team. But as far as offensively against that defense, turn them loose. I mean, we better use Bijan and Tyler. No Ed Oliver, I'd run it straight up the gut. That secondary, if Stefan Diggs, and this is no shot at Stephon Diggs. We all know Stephon Diggs is a former all-pro, former Pro Bowl player. I'm sure he's still a good player, but at the end of the day, Drake London should be running circles in that in that secondary as well. And then if we have a healthy moon, another guy that should be able to get loose. Like, I don't understand why we shouldn't put up 40 points on this defense. And maybe I'm I'm I'm getting tongue-in-cheek by saying 40, but we should score a lot more points than them. So you're saying we're we're better than them, is what you're telling me.
SPEAKER_01:I think that in this spot, yes. So you wouldn't say that in uh January in Orchard Park.
SPEAKER_04:No. I don't I I mean, well, if if things remain where they are now, this is a team that currently is ranked number one in total defense, the Falcons, that is. Um, and we can run the ball. So you never know. That that type of game, that is that environment is where you need those two things. If you got a top defense and you can run the ball, you'll win football games.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, and Michael Penix played in Indiana and in uh Washington.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, and these aren't those aren't warm weather places.
SPEAKER_01:So I am skeptical going in. We got the Bills off of a loss, a tough loss, a game where they beat themselves just by turning the ball over.
SPEAKER_04:It's like four turnovers in the first like seven minutes of that game.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it yeah. Then you just have my overall fear factor anytime the Falcons play against star quarterbacks. Because we don't have a star quarterback, it's scary. Especially running quarterbacks. Yeah, we we like to let quarterbacks run, especially the ones like Josh Allen, who he's not here to just run the ball, but he can run to pass, uh but then actually run uh for 30 yards. And uh we gotta tackle we gotta gang tackle him, we can't let him get ahead of steam, we can't let him get 101s, you know. If if if uh if we got one end hitting him, we need a backer right behind him, you know, to clean him up. You know, uh it should be a game if we have sacks. That it's a lot of half sacks going around, you know.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. You know, the other thing.
SPEAKER_04:I was gonna say the other thing that we struggle with that's gonna be a part of this game that I do kind of feel for. Now, again, we have the number one total ranked defense, and this is not obviously based on total numbers, since we've only played four games and a lot of teams that play five. This is on a per game average. We are number one. We also are number one in pass defense, and we do get A.J. Terrell back. But what concerns the hell out of me is the idea of Dalton Kincaid running a seam up the middle with that big 6'6 frame of his and being able to win jump balls against an Xavier Watt, who has played fantastic to win a jump ball against the Jesse Bates All Pro. That's what concerns me when it comes to a team like the Bills because they do have big physical guys up there. And James Cook, this will be somewhat, I mean, I know he's not from here, but being a dog, it's a little bit of a homecoming for him, too. And he bef prior to this weekend's game with the Bills game, he didn't, I mean the Patriots game, he didn't do too much, but he led the NFL in rushing yards coming into that game. So they're able to run the ball. Um, and again, they've got big physical guys. Keon Coleman's 6'4. You know what I mean? I mean, Shakir's a smaller dude, but they got a lot of big dudes. Uh Dawson Knox, another you know, backup title. Those are the these are the games where you look up and you see an Austin Seferian Jenkins like type performance, and that does concern you, especially coming off that loss because they are pissed. And teams like the Bills who win 13-12 games a year, they don't typically lose back-to-back games.
SPEAKER_01:No, they don't. And that that's what scares the hell out of me. They're more prepared for primetime Monday night football than we are, uh, although we do have the B team.
SPEAKER_04:Well, let's check this out, though. You know the Falcons' record since 2015 on Monday night football? What, one and one? 7-1. Shit. We're seven and one. They said uh, and it began with the season opener in 2015 where DQ, where we beat the Eagles. Um, we played them on the opening Monday night that year, which I don't know why. Why do we always typically get season opening matchups with the Eagles? Uh and they're always night games.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know.
SPEAKER_04:Um it just, I don't know. It's just it's it's always at the beginning, very beginning of the season, except that one time where we did the fact check, Michael Vick's first game returning as a player, not as the starter. That game was on a Sunday. But outside of that, for the most part, our games are always on prime time and they're always the first or second week of the season.
SPEAKER_01:A couple years ago, uh, since I've had tickets, we played the Eagles week one uh at one o'clock. That's back when Arthur used to like open up the roof to start the year. Which I hope he opens it up Monday night.
SPEAKER_04:Uh yeah, it should be plenty of perfect weather, and it just looked really cool on TV.
SPEAKER_01:Shout out to never mind, that was gonna be an asshole comment to make.
SPEAKER_04:Why do you want to be a dick about stuff, we I'm not.
SPEAKER_01:That's why I didn't say it. I I stopped myself.
SPEAKER_02:But uh anything else on the Falcons?
SPEAKER_04:Uh, in terms of, I mean, we had a bye week, so nothing to recap. We can't shit on anybody, we can't praise anyone. It's kind of just let's wait and see. Let's see. Last year, coming out of the bye, if you remember, we played the Chargers and the team looked flat as shit. Um, Kirk Cousins looked hurt, and we got dominated in what was a must-win game. Because if we had lost that game, which we did, that would have been it was three in a row, or maybe that was the fourth one in a row. Because we went into the bye we'd go on a losing streak, and they didn't look like they were very prepared.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, but since we're talking about the uh Bills, anyways, you want to talk about that uh Sunday night football game? Uh Drake May making one of the best plays that we've seen in a while. Uh to, I mean, my God, he had a guy's hand in his breastplate and he still got the pass off. Uh, but yeah, it was a hell of a game early, but it was a hell of a football game. And uh, real quick, credits to Mike Vrabel, which is why I personally wanted him to be the Falcons coach, because that looked like a Mike Vrabel game. Like win, lose, or draw, the Bills would have had to come and earn their paycheck that day, and they earned their paycheck and still lost. You know what I mean? Like it that even like some of those late hits, you just know that's Vrabel talking about played through the echo of the whistle. You know what I mean? Yeah, like just be physical. I'd rather you mess up being too aggressive than mess up being not aggressive enough. And he was able to put his imprint on that game, shrink the game, and uh ultimately ek uh ink out a win.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, they they looked uh a lot better than I expected. Obviously, anyone that follows the picks will see, which by the way, we went four and two. But uh anyone that sees the picks knows that I took Buffalo on the hook at seven and a half, and you know, they lost straight up. Um we did get the dog right with the Broncos, which we'll get to that game next. But um, yeah, you know, again, it looked like a Mike Brable coach football team, and it looked like the Bills were uh more about their uniforms than they were about their play. It was sloppy football, they couldn't run the ball. Um Dalton Kincaid had it had a hell of a game, but like outside of that, he didn't really get production from anyone else. And Josh Allen had a pretty costly pick there down in the red zone. Um, and yeah, the defense couldn't get off the field and get a stop when they needed to.
SPEAKER_02:Are you trying to sell a tight end?
SPEAKER_04:I'm listening.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, we can just talk after. I just I I need to buy a tight end badly. Okay. Um, but no, that was that was uh I mean it was just a good game, and you know what I loved about Mike Rabel.
SPEAKER_04:What's that?
SPEAKER_01:You can just see that big fucking chaw on his lip during the game. Yeah, it's just protruding, and then when he smiles, you just see it just itching out on his teeth, and you go, that's a football coach right there.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, big time ball coach. Um, a guy that likes to get W's. A guy that does get W's, right?
SPEAKER_01:I mean, unlike Herb in the NFL?
SPEAKER_04:Herb didn't get W's in the NFL, Lee. What are we talking about?
SPEAKER_01:I said unlike herb in the NFL. Oh, unlike herb.
SPEAKER_04:Okay. I miss her.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, unlike Bill in college, you know, Chapel Bill, who we'll get to later.
SPEAKER_04:Well, yeah. Something like that. Yeah, Brabel cut from a different cloth. Um uh although he technically would be considered the Belichick tree. No, um, maybe old Bill. That ain't that ain't new Bill.
SPEAKER_01:And so um that was just a good football game. You know what I mean? Like Josh Allen, the great player, but just watching the Patriots, and and golly, they had some dumb penalties, but just watching them play football, and it just looked like it's just physical football. Prayers to Antonio Gibson who got lost for the season in that game.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah. Oof, yeah, tough. Uh, Antonio Gibson, Georgia boy, too, by the way. He went to the same high school as Mr. Turner.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Shout out to the sister, too. Cool peoples.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah. But as I had mentioned before, we did get the Broncos Eagles pick right, and I called it dog of the week Broncos. Um, yeah, I didn't like the matchup for the Eagles based on everything that coming into the season we are coming out of those first four games that we saw. They got out gained in every game. The game prior to that, they had no passes completed in the second half. And then this week, it seemed like they kind of overcompensated for it. They were up two touchdowns, you know, at one point in the game, and they blow it. And if I'm not mistaken, that was headed into the fourth quarter and they blow the game. So when you look at this type of stuff, it you break it down from what's going on internally, which with them, that stuff is kind of public. They they're making it public. You see that, and then you see what you do see on the football field in a couple of last second wins, you know, should have lost the Dallas game if CeeDee Lamb could catch, should have lost the Rams game if uh big Jordan Davis didn't do what Jordan Davis does at Georgia, but doing it for the Eagles. Could have lost the game to the Eagles, too. I mean, to the Chiefs as well. Realistically, if Travis Kelsey doesn't, you know, pop the ball up and it turns into a pick, they could have possibly lost that game. So it's not that the and and Saquon Barkley has not been Saquon Barkley this season, which nobody talks about that. We talk about Derrick Henry and his struggles. Nobody's talking about the idea that Saquon hasn't really gotten off yet.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I think there's a few things. Uh, and to start with Saquon not being Saquon, uh what people are saying is that offensive line isn't that offensive line. Uh Lane Johnson's a year older. He's dealing with some stuff. Uh Dickerson's not Dickerson's not healthy. Uh they had to replace uh um well they got a brand new right, they got a brand new uh right tackle.
SPEAKER_04:They still got Jordan Malotta, though, right?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, you still got my lotta over there. So so point being is that the offensive line is an offensive lining, and that's what made them so great, is that they were a team driven by their offensive line. Yes, they're gonna be a few. I was getting there. Okay, my bad. Then we got a brand new coordinator who's learning how to play call because he hasn't played call before, he hasn't coordinated, and he also didn't have the experience. I I I was listening to um Dominic Foxworth and Jeff Saturday talk about this on uh on Foxworth's pod today. And, you know. They they talked about when uh uh what's my man's name? Uh uh Kellen Moore was there. You know, he can go into the to the meeting room and say, Hey, I was brought here to fix y'all's offense. Let me cook. Like I got a track record of what I did in Dallas to let people know, hey, hey, hey, Kellen Moore can call plays. He's had successful offenses, right? But the new coordinator, what credibility does he have? What has he done? And then you have Nick Siriani, a Super Bowl winning coach, Jalen Hurts, a Super Bowl winning quarterback, Saquon Barkley, a damn near record setting Hall of Fame track running back, you know, AJ Brown, some would say a top five receiver in the league, and then Devontae, and then you have Devontae Smith, who we don't even know where he kind of ranks in the league because he's not a number one, but he's good enough to be a number one. He's just on a team with AJ Brown. So he's a$30 million receiver. Yeah, and he's a Heisman trophy winner, you know. Uh like he and when we we see the plays, he's him, right? So you have all of these players who have more clout than the offensive coordinator. And I think that could be a part of the problem. And one last thing I took away from their podcast and and the breakdown Foxworth talked about them having a more uh a more uh opportunistic offense in in this in this Denver game. And he said, hey, they may lose some games that they could win playing this way, but it could set them up uh in the long term to be a better team. Because it's they can't play the way that they played last year, so now it's playing through, did it again. It's it's playing in this style throughout the season to work the Kinks out so they'll be ready for the playoffs.
SPEAKER_04:And and look, and that very well could be because at the end of the day, isn't it about playing your best ball later on in the season? And that's what they did last year. They started two and two, and everything kind of turned around. Um, you know, after they beat the Saints in week four. Yeah, that was week four. They were one and two headed into New Orleans. And remember, New Orleans was two and one. They had they were hot those first two weeks. Then we beat them, we beat them on a game one field goal, and that was a battle. Like Zequan had a big game, and that was the breakout. They didn't lose again. Sans the game where they had the backups in. You know, they lost one of those, but they basically didn't lose again. So, you know, I I think it's not time to panic or anything for Philly. And let's give Denver credit, too. That's probably the best defense in the NFL. Um, and we know that Sean Payton is, as we've seen here, is a master play caller. Uh, yeah, we I mean we might hate him, you know, him doing that to Devontae Freeman. I think, you know, that one year that was Justice's fantasy team name. It was Sean Payton yelling choke. Um he did that the year after the Super Bowl, obviously. And it's just like, fuck you. Um, but um, yeah, so let's give Denver credit to for being a solid football team. I mean, they're three and two for a reason, they do a lot of things well and they don't beat themselves. So uh I guess they well, they kind of did against the Colts, but uh yeah, but that was a bold man.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, uh shout out to Sean Payton, man. He's a great coach and I never thought I'd hear you say that. I I wouldn't hate him if he was trash. Yeah, but I mean I don't have I don't have thoughts on Jim Hazlitt. You know what I mean? I I didn't have thoughts on Ra until he became our coach. Yeah, I I don't have thoughts on uh my god, who else can I talk about? Uh what's my man's name? Uh John Fox and I mean and I know he got Carolina to a Super Bowl, but like nobody cares about John Fox or uh uh what's my man's name? Riverboat Ron? Ron Rivera? Yeah, those people. Yeah, Dave Canales. Yeah, I mean, well, Dave Canales is what, two and one against the Falcons? Now he's starting to put fear in my heart.
SPEAKER_04:He didn't put fear in my heart. At the end of the day, Bryce Young will probably be benched by the time we get to he's not gonna be benched. They actually uh, I mean, they had that comeback win against the Dolphins this week. You know, and then and this is the worst part about it. We're on bye week. We look up, we're like, okay, Dolphins, Panthers. We're like, okay, Seattle, Tampa, which was game of the week, by the way. Um, and then Saints, Giants, and we're like, everybody's gonna lose them. Somebody's gonna lose. Right. There's gonna be at least two teams that lose here, I would think. None of them were favored except the the Saints. So uh it felt like a loss that week because everybody gained ground on us. Carolina's got as many wins as us, New Orleans is a game and a half. I mean, game and a half, but you know what I'm saying? They're still there. And then uh Tampa padded their lead with a comeback victory against a tough place to play, and they were underman, no Bucky Irving. So it it it was it was tough from that standpoint for us this week because all three teams in the division won. But let's talk about that Tampa game real quick. Baker's got to be the front. I know he's not in Vegas, but to me and my eyes, if you got some money, I I'd pepper a little bit on Baker to win MVP at this point.
SPEAKER_01:He's getting he he has comeback victories, he has the stats, he he has the touchdowns, he he's not throwing. It's fun to watch. It's fun to watch. There we go. He checks all the boxes. Yeah, and then he has a Mekka Buka emerging as offensive rookie of the year.
SPEAKER_04:You can go ahead and just and and and and potentially second team all pro.
SPEAKER_01:I I mean you know, there are some people in this world who bought into the Tampa Bay offense this year.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, well, we know.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and there's some people in the world who just believe that hey, Tampa's good. They are good, they made the playoffs. They won't be players over there. Yeah, if a Mecca Abuka is who we say he is, they're gonna be really fucking good. And our week one loss to Tampa, like the the the Carolina game really screwed us. And I know and I'm gonna get back to this game because that week one loss to Tampa, although it was at home, was not a bad loss. I'm like, we lost a close game to a really good team. Where we kind of beat ourselves.
SPEAKER_04:We had the lead in the last two minutes, we gave up the lead, had a chance to tie it, didn't, and people lost their jobs because of it. Put pressure on people to lose their jobs before the commanders game, ultimately.
SPEAKER_01:And but then we get 30, but we get 30 piece by fucking Carolina, and so blanked. So so you think of us, you think of that's who we are in a team that beat, excuse me, uh, the Vikings without a competent quarterback.
SPEAKER_04:A three-and-two Vikings team, though.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, and then uh Washington without Jaden Daniels. It's like blah blah blah. But we're closer to Tampa than we are to Carolina, believe it or not.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, and and this Monday.
SPEAKER_01:I sound like Cal Hurts saying that the score of the game doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_04:It does, but at the end of the day, and this Monday we get to prove that though. They can sell it to anyone that Rich look, Rich Eisen had us after the Vikings game in his top 10. You know, it'd been a minute, man, since I've heard the Falcons on anyone's list for anything. So like they have a chance to catapult back into it. And the sucky part is if we win, unless Bijan has some video game type game, the talk is gonna be what's wrong with the Bills, not a man, the Falcons might be pretty fucking good. It's gonna be a what's wrong with the Bills, because that's just the way the narrative is gonna be because it's Josh Allen.
SPEAKER_01:And I want it I want us to beat them by a solid 10.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And I don't want, and I and I want I and I want to get like I want to force punts. You know, I don't want like them to miss field goals or Josh to turn the ball over, fumble. I don't I don't want that. I want us to play good defense and beat them, make big plays, and then also sustain drives, you know, just look like the better team. I don't want, even if they're great turnovers, I don't want two strip sacks and a pick. Bill's gonna be good. What's wrong with Josh Allen?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, Bill's Mafia has a great fan base. They're great fans, by the way. Um, I got to experience it when I went to niggas. Yeah, I'm just saying, I got the experience it when I went to Orchard Park four years ago for a game. Got to do a keg stand with them. As a matter of fact, had a couple of Bills fans uh that have actually reached out to me. My cousin uh is a Bills fan and she travels for the games. Got a link up with her before the game. Um and then also our uh former banker, she reached out to me. She's from there, they're both from up there. That's why they're fans. But which is kind of my point. Can we please make this an 80-20 game Atlanta? Can we please like not let them come into the house and like take over? That still is West New York. You know what I'm saying? That ain't that ain't, but I'm just saying it's not a major city, so it ain't a lot of people from Buffalo that just live in Atlanta. And even though Bills might be as strong, I'm sure there's a Buffalo Bills bar in Atlanta somewhere. But like there was one in San Diego. Yeah, so I'm sure that like they have that type of a fan base, but the reality of it is anyone, if it's a ton of people wearing Bill's stuff, they probably flew down. And if they flew down, and you sold, that means they so you sold your tickets. That's what that says to me. And so, and I get it. Look, I wouldn't couldn't resist a payday either. I'd love to get a couple grand for some tickets, you know? That'd be great. But like at the same time, let's not let's not have this thing look this way. On Monday night, it should be we're wearing the red, it should be a red out, a blackout. It it should be it should show that we're there. You know what I mean? New England and Buffalo play every year, and it was a white out for their game. It didn't mean nothing, but like still, you didn't see I didn't see barely any Patriots fans at that game. And that's a division rival that's not too far from Boston.
SPEAKER_02:So hey, you know what we didn't talk about?
SPEAKER_04:What's that?
SPEAKER_01:The pride and joy of exit 290, excuse me, exit 288.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, the Monday night miracle?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, Mr. 301-20 himself. Oh coach of the year. Mr. If at first you don't succeed, you get back up and try it again. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_04:Coach, coach, coach of the year too far for five weeks.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Most definitely M Cohen, coach of the year. Uh, shout out to the the Jags for uh proving to us what we what we thought about the Chiefs uh two years ago and what they showed us last year, uh, but it didn't play out, but kind of what Philly's going through right now, and now we're seeing it this year.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We called this a minute ago. Um, but we were wrong. They won the Super Bowl that year, then they went back the next year. But look, god damn it, we knew it was coming.
SPEAKER_01:We knew it was coming. But but think about it. The year they won a Super Bowl, they weren't covering. It was the it was the defense that year. Yeah, that was the strength of the team. Then last year, they were winning all these one-score games. 50.
SPEAKER_04:Because other teams were fucking themselves, though. The Bengals, Pat P.I. Uh our game, we had two fourth down chances in the goal on in the red zone, and we couldn't convert them. Which I mean, shout out to their defense, I guess. But yeah, that boy from Cartersville.
SPEAKER_01:But but like we we we we saw it, we saw it coming, and they were still able to overcome it. So, like, when we our prediction, our our conclusion may have been wrong, our final conclusion or our hypothesis was wrong. But what we were trying to speak towards based on the evidence that we were seeing is what we are finally seeing now. We just predicted it before it started to cave in, is all I'm saying. No, absolutely. And look, Patrick Mahomes throwing that pick fix to Devin Lloyd, that doesn't happen.
SPEAKER_04:No, not on not on the one-yard line, not uh him running it back because he was moving slow as shit. And I'm like, man, where's Zay Worthy? Where's Hollywood Brown? Why is nobody catching up to him to bring him down? But um, you know, you start talking about you got the fastest receiver in the NFL on your side.
SPEAKER_01:I but Trevor gave him one when he fumbled on the one by trying to stretch the ball out, which you should never do. Bill Belichick teams don't do that. Uh, what would Bill do?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, well, we know what Bill would do, and we'll talk about him in a little bit. Um, he he would ask for a buyout. But um, anyways, um, no, look, uh give them credit, give Liam Cullen credit. He's doing it with what I don't think is honestly a super talented team, or maybe we're just unfamiliar with the talent because they've been buried in the top 10, you know, for a gosh, almost a decade, uh aside from the Blake Bortles one year, but they've been buried in the top 10 for like a decade. So now these players are finally coming to fruition, even though uh Trey Walker didn't even play in that game. Um yeah, I mean, but this is give Liam Collin his credit, and you know, kind of similar to uh when Nick Sirianni did his press conference and everybody kind of laughed about at him. He won a Super Bowl, everybody laughed at Liam Collin because of the way he said Duvall and started smirking afterwards, and everybody's like, man, these guys are about to get blown the fuck out. Now, Shane Siken, not Shane Siken, I'm sorry. What's my man in Arizona? Rich Gannon, yeah. Rich Gannon, no, it's not Rich Gannon. Not Rich Gannon, uh uh Coach Gannon. Yeah, he coach Gannon. Now, they look like that thing's about to blow up over there, and his press conference sucked too because he's doing the pew, fhew, phew, you know, Jonathan Gannon. Yeah, and now that thing looks like it's about to blow up. He's getting hundred thousand dollar fines. His player he should have got his ass whooped. I look, I mean, he wanted D Mercado wants to play in the NFL.
SPEAKER_01:Right, right. And because D Mercado wants to play in his in the NFL, because of power dynamics, because of how we how the coach is the authority figure, and we will excuse an authority figure crossing the line more than we will uh uh the person who looks up to the authority figure. But in all reality, John Gannon knew he could get away with that on the sideline, but he would have never done that shit in the facility if the media's not out there. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. He would have done that in the meeting room. He wouldn't have got like face to face with him in the meet uh watching film with the team. Well, ain't no cameras in here. Yeah. And and and that and that's my issue with it. I understand it. Coaches teach things, and I bet you, because of what happened in the Colts game, they made that a point of emphasis. They they probably made that a huge point of emphasis. So for that to happen, for that to happen when we know this ice is the game, I can understand the coach being upset enough to react the way that John Gannon did, right? I don't want anybody to think me shitting on him for doing this is me acting like he that I'm above it. No, no, no. You can be that upset. Because and it shows me that you care. It shows me that you want to win. I want that fire in my coach. But in my head coach, I want a level of restraint to be able to look at the moment and properly identify where I need to inject myself. This kid's head is down. He knows he's fucked up. He probably doesn't need to be yelled at right now because he still got to get out here and play. He's with his teammates and they're picking him up. And for then, for you to come over there and do the yelling thing and then you hit him in his chest, and then when you walk off, you bump him. Hey, b hey dog.
SPEAKER_04:We don't don't bump me when you're walking away. And we and we got a complete 180 in the uh in the Patriots Bills game because as soon as Ramondre Stevens fumbled for the fourth time in as many games, they showed Mike Vray will come over there, encourage him, pick him up. He scores two touchdowns because obviously, you know, uh Gibson goes down with the knee injury on a kick return. But uh, and then after the game, they interview Ramondre Stevens and they ask him, they said, What did Coach Brave will say to me? He said, We still got, we're gonna need you. We still got uh a lot more football left to play.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:He breathes it into his players. Then they show him after the game. I was watching on Peacock. After the game, he waits for all the guys to come in and he daps them up. As he they go into the tunnel, he waits for them and he daps all those guys up, you know, win or lose. And so that's just the difference between being a coach and being a guy that got a coaching job. And so it just, you know, it is what it is, but that's the point, though. You know, not it's not not everybody's fit to be a head coach. And look, I know Jonathan Gannon hates it. He probably saw Cliff got that nice ass mansion out there that was like, man, I want that for me. And I hope he got it, but he won't have it for long. See, Cliff knows that he's gonna get another job. Jonathan Gannon's not the type of guy, he's a one and done type of guy. Not one year and done, obviously, but a one and done. He won't be a head coach again in this league.
SPEAKER_01:He'll be a DC if he's lucky.
SPEAKER_04:Look, it took uh it took our coach Radio Rahim, what, 15, 16 years to get back to that position?
SPEAKER_01:Like, so and he waited too long. I'm not even saying if he was good enough, he waited too long.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, considering he was the youngest head coach in NFL history.
SPEAKER_01:He's the youngest head coach in NFL history, and he did have early success in Tampa.
SPEAKER_04:He had that one year, but that's early success in the Yeah, it was bad. Like 3 and 13 the other two. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:But I mean it's not like he got it's not like he had played.
SPEAKER_04:And they didn't make the playoffs, remember, on that 10 and 6. Then the Bears missed the playoffs that year at 10 and 6. Yeah. Him and old Lovey.
SPEAKER_01:Uh, is there anything else from last week you want to talk about?
SPEAKER_04:I think we pretty much covered all the bases.
unknown:All right.
SPEAKER_04:Baseball pun for everybody that didn't get it.
SPEAKER_01:Real quick, can we get Gronk off of my TV?
SPEAKER_04:Lee, you are a professional muter, anyways. Every time I text you about any football game, it seems like, you know, I gotta mute it. And mainly, I guess it's mainly just Thursday night, but no, you do Chris, you be muting Chris too.
SPEAKER_01:So everybody, I I watched the game.
SPEAKER_04:You don't like hearing what Tarico's gotta say, you don't like hearing what Al gotta say.
SPEAKER_01:So, so I'm not gonna lie to you. Sunday, I did listen to the game. I thought when Tariko, uh, when the guy got the uh got the ball and ran, Tarico commentating that was some of the funniest TV I've ever seen. But I don't watch a lot of pregame shows, I don't watch a lot of post-game shows. Uh I don't really care for the analysis that they give there. I don't think it's great analysis. And outside of Jay Glazer popping on before the show to drop a wogebomb, uh it adds very little value for me. Uh but anytime I hear Gronk, I'm just like, why?
SPEAKER_05:Why did I just hear Gronk?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like the like you can't allow Terry to correct you on saying an African name. Because if we know anything, Terry, out of anybody on that set would struggle the most with saying a Mecca Abuka. And if it wasn't serious and it was a joke, bad fucking joke.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, get get that grown man's name right, especially he's a grown man that's bald. You know, it's not Stephen A saying Kwame Brown, but even that is disrespectful, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01:And like Kwame Bron.
SPEAKER_04:Well, and Kwame makes Kwame makes it known. I mean, a book is not gonna do it. He's he's you know, a rook or whatever. He's saying fuck Brock, stupid ass. And Brock's a former buck, too. You know, no, I don't look at him that way, but he still did play there.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and he won a Super Bowl there. But like, what if I see you? What if I see you one day? You you know what I mean? And and I check you because hey bro, you play on my name. I I I bet I've been I've I've been him too long for you not to know my name. I I I I'm not like I'm not I'm not Puka Nakool. I didn't come out of nowhere, and only the people who were tapped into college football, more specifically Pac-12 football, knew who Puka was. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:No, I'm a Mecca Abuka who was in the best college wide receiver room ever, and people were saying I was the best one in the room. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like you you remember before he was getting burned, this guy mecca buka, they say he might be the best one here, and then you know, Maserati Marvin's going crazy, and then the next year we see a mecca, and we like, oh shit, oh, oh, ho.
SPEAKER_04:Oh man, well, we got introduced to a mecha buka. They had they played in the Rose Bowl that one year. It was corner, huh?
SPEAKER_01:You talking about when he played corner? No, a mecha buca. Oh, oh no, he went. I'm trippy. He didn't play corner either.
SPEAKER_04:He went, he went. I there's a word I want to use, and I'm not gonna use it. You know exactly what word. He went that. And the thing is, is that um yeah, let's go with ape shit. He went ape shit. He had like 270 yards and like four touchdowns in that game. It's like a Rose Bowl record. And you know, that was when I got introduced to him because that was the year Garrett Wilson and somebody else, they sat a lot. Yeah, they sat because obviously they knew they were first round picks. They're like, man, you know, fuck this game. We're not in the playoffs. And yeah, him, Maserati, Marv, and I think it was women. I forgot who the other one was, but they went stupid in the game. They won the game, they scored a ton of points. And so, yeah, it's just it's it's in it's insane. And you know what? You gotta get Grock off TV.
SPEAKER_01:I forgot, and I forgot last year with Abuka because of uh what's what was my man's name, the receiver they got there now? Jeremiah Smith? Or Ohio. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh then they had Jeremiah they had Jeremiah Smith last year, so he like took a lot of the shine away from Abuka because that nigga's like Julio.
SPEAKER_04:You let you let uh you let Joel Clack tell it. He said that you know there's a lot of guys that get comparisons. He said, I think he's gonna be in that pantheon with the Jerry Rice, is what he's saying.
SPEAKER_01:I I think it's irresponsible to say stuff like that, even if it's true.
SPEAKER_04:Put him in the conversation with the GOAT, huh?
SPEAKER_01:I mean, would you even put him in a conversation with with Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase?
SPEAKER_04:I can't put any guy that I haven't seen play. There's certain guys, if I see them play in person and I say something, yeah, but I haven't seen him play in person. And I know it's like, well, what difference does it make? You saw it on TV. It makes a big difference when you see some shit in person.
SPEAKER_01:No, no, Trey Trey Young is a much better basketball player if you've watched him in person. Correct. Uh like the 25 and 12 is there, and if we're being real, really is like more so like 30 and 11. Like you're gonna get that, but when you watch how he gets it and orchestrates it during the game and takes timely deep ass threes, even the misses, if you are actually there and in the arena, that shit makes way more sense than it does looking at the Josh score.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, and I had told you Grant, I don't know what's up with him, but after I had seen uh CJ Stroud in person, I said, Oh no. I said he's that that dude's real because he was, he's doing that against George Steven. I'm like, what the fuck is this?
SPEAKER_01:Like, bro, you know, you would have known did that for me. I went to uh Hawks uh OKC game and SGA was out, and Giddy got to like run the show, and he had one of those like 20-point triple doubles, yeah. But yeah, but just every time you look up, you just watch Giddy just just playing his game, and I'm like, yo, giddy is nice.
SPEAKER_04:Giddy was Diddy, he was he was he was getting what he wanted and and how he wanted it, but you know, it turns out he was like, take that, take that.
SPEAKER_01:But you know, after All-Star last year, Giddy averaged like 20, 10, and 9.
SPEAKER_04:Giddy. Yeah. Look at that. We just did the double Entende with that. I know we were talking about Antoine's how you pulled off a triple, bro.
SPEAKER_02:Yo, some of my best shit. Uh, but yeah, get Gronk off my TV. And you know who else is gonna be off of our TV, Parlay Pete?
SPEAKER_04:Who?
SPEAKER_02:Mark Sanchez.
SPEAKER_04:Oh man, you know, oh man, yeah, it's crazy. I I didn't forget about it, but we are doing the show. What were your thoughts on everything? Now that we've heard everything and we allegedly know what's happened.
SPEAKER_01:Fuck Mark Sanchez.
SPEAKER_04:See, Florio made a good point, though, to where Mark Sanchez might have a little power over Fox, though, because of all this, being that if he did come from a work event and that he does typically do this. Now, him and what he did with the dude, totally different thing. But the drinking aspect of it, if this is what they normally do, they're about to change the culture of Fox. And we know that Fox clearly Fox me Fox, Shannon, all that stuff. But man, Fox is they're in hot water overall, just with ethically how things are run over there, and we know Rupert's not the one doing anything.
SPEAKER_01:But also, but also Trump has sued Rupert.
SPEAKER_04:So nobody likes Fox at this point.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and and and and but here's the thing if Fox immediately fires Mark Sanchez, then they're liable in the lawsuit. Because why would you fire him?
SPEAKER_04:Well, exactly. And but that's the thing, that's what I'm saying. The idea that he's got that power over him to wear, he's basically gonna be on paid leave, is what it sounds like to me.
SPEAKER_01:Right. But but like I'll tell you what I went through when I first saw it. I was like, damn, Sanchez got stabbed. That's damn, I hope you're okay. But me being somebody who gets drunk and goes places, I'm like, what the fuck did he do? People don't get stabbed for no reason. Like when the Steelers backup quarterback got got jumped and robbed in Dublin, it wasn't for it, it wasn't for no reason. He was either presenting himself in a place to be a to he was presenting himself too rich in somewhere where he shouldn't have been, or he was talking shit. And he got fucked up. And I'm saying this as somebody who goes outside. I've been in grimy places, I've been in upscale places. You have to carry yourself appropriately in each venue. Yeah, I don't wear my diamond earrings to every bar. Sometimes you you want to blend in. Yeah. Even when they so that's what I'm thinking. Then I hear he's arrested. I was like, oh shit. Yeah, and then you hear the story of oh acting like he on like like like he on uh on her on, you know what I'm saying? It's not heron on dust, right? He run it running laps in the alley, yeah, jumping in niggas' box trucks, telling them where to park with your caring ass. Hey, mind your business, boy. And then the man pepper sprayed you, which I found to be very weird, man. Why? You own pepper spray, but again, 69-year-old man though. Yeah, but but yeah, I've never owned pepper spray.
SPEAKER_04:He's 69 though, and he's a truck driver.
SPEAKER_01:Cool, cool, but I've never owned pepper spray. I would, I mean, look, I agree with you. That's 69.
SPEAKER_04:I ain't gonna own no pepper spray, but I'm just saying.
SPEAKER_01:You know what I'm saying? And we shooting red hot shots, this motherfucker. We ain't it ain't no, it ain't no poker nut. Like, like Mike Sanchez lucky his ass is alive. Because he could have got he he could have got shot. Right. And in Indy, you can open carrying that motherfucker. You you you could have got shot. Well, you're lucky he wasn't in Texas doing that shit. You lucky he wasn't calling the Atlanta game doing them crazy shit like that. Right. Well, imagine him trying that shit in the city. And one of them old niggas riding that box truck with that nice little 380 and there, ready to shred nigga ready to let something go.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Look. And they'll never find a pistol.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, and look, I I I just think that when you look at the situation again, shout outs to the guy because he's about to get a massive fucking payday. A massive payday and deserves every single cent. And especially if his face is actually fucked up like permanently.
SPEAKER_01:So I don't I don't give a fuck what it is. I was at work doing my job, and you came and bothered me. Fuck you. And fuck Fox too. I'm not gonna say that because you know No, I'm not saying it.
SPEAKER_04:I'm saying that's what he's saying. Okay, yeah, yeah. Let me clean that up. I don't want anyone to take take this video and make an AI video of me or something. I I would hate for that to happen.
SPEAKER_01:No, because Fox, if you ever want to do a grassroots Atlanta show, we're your guys, okay? Absolutely. FF1, they need something new. Yeah, some of that money you're saving with with Mark. Okay, get get at your boy, holler at your boy. Hey, we'll take a 30k salary year one and just put a marketing budget behind us.
SPEAKER_04:Isn't that what Stephen A said? He was like, Holl at your boy.
SPEAKER_02:Man, fuck him.
SPEAKER_04:I tell you what. Speaking of Stephen A, I know we're kind of going all over the place. So let's say let's say the football. We'll get to Steve. Steve is Steve Steve's coming.
SPEAKER_01:But but at the end of the day, Mark Sanchez is an idiot. Uh I was really hurt when I listened. Uh so Chris Long talked about it, and he has a personal relationship with Mark, and he went to he's going through something. And I don't care what he's going through. Um I've done drunk shit. I've blacked out before and woke up and found out things that I did, and some of those things I wasn't proud of. But I haven't done that. And I I I work on not blacking out so that I never put myself in that situation. And I think that's the bigger the biggest lesson to take away from this. For one, mind your own business, two, drink responsibly. But also, if you're gonna get fucking hammered, don't black out, dog. Like, because you can do some dumb shit blacked out because I think as humans, people go, that's not in my character. That's not in my character. No, uh, yes, it is. I think all of us are capable of killing. I think all of us are capable of anything, right? So because you have the capability to do it, you never want to put yourself in a situation where you lose the ability to choose your actions.
SPEAKER_04:Very, very well put. I mean, I couldn't put it any better, but um we got a comment on here.
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SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Um, that shit ain't scam likely. But hey, leave that comment again. Keep leaving comments.
SPEAKER_04:Can you imagine us being desperate to not want to organically grow this thing?
SPEAKER_01:I mean, people do it. I mean, I've heard Rocillo talk about people in the industry who buy followers.
SPEAKER_04:Uh I've heard it in hip hop media as well. Just as they do with their records.
SPEAKER_01:Is that a shot at somebody?
SPEAKER_04:I I I I I didn't make it. I hey, we don't start rumors, we only bring them up.
SPEAKER_01:Well, what's next? Uh we're done with Sanchez. Oh shit, man.
SPEAKER_04:Touch Flacco real quick.
SPEAKER_01:Uh got trimmed to the Bengals, and he's gonna start this week.
SPEAKER_04:Let me get Green Bay. Uh, let me get as many points as I can on them. They're still gonna beat the shit out of them. No, it should open up the offense. Fantasy owners are rejoicing. Yeah. They're not gonna win games, but like at least Jamar Chase and like Pete Higgins and Chase Brown have life. They got a chance. They have a chance to be productive. They're still not gonna win games. Like, they're I I don't think I would take Green Bay on the 14, uh, which again we'll get to the picks later, guys. But like is that the line? Yeah, the line's 14. It's actually 14 and a half, and like, so I don't think I'd lay that just because it's like, I mean, damn, I know quarterback is an important position in the NFL, but these are professionals. But that that was before the Flacco trade. I haven't looked at it since. Matter of fact, actually.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, but I mean, but but when you got Jamar Chase on the other team, I I could never take 14 points against Jamar Chase.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it's just it's still too many weapons to just be like, oh yeah, they're gonna cover this with ease.
SPEAKER_01:He can win a jump ball, somehow get both feet in bounds, not get tackled and score for 60. You know what I mean? He can catch a little stopper out, shake a nigga, and and score. Yeah, like and t.
SPEAKER_04:Right. Like, and five. And and and and even not an important portant position, you know, their tight ends are still it's gonna Gesecki and they have Nova Fans. Like, these are talent, these are guys that are playing football.
SPEAKER_01:Like hey, question for you. Yes, if T. Higgins and uh and Devontae Smith, probably the two best number two receivers in the league, right? Devontae Adams doesn't count because he's old. Um who would be the number one if they were in the same receiving core? Because they would actually be a solid receiving core together, but who would be the number one?
SPEAKER_04:I uh and it's only because of age. I I think T.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_04:And it's only because I mean all you have to do is kind of look at Tay, his now his last two stops.
SPEAKER_01:So far with the Rams, Puka is no, no, no, not Devontae Adams, I'm saying Devontae Smith.
SPEAKER_04:Oh yeah, give me T. Give me T. Yeah, give me T over the R.
SPEAKER_01:I don't I don't count Devontae Adams in the the top number two receiver conversation because he is an older one and he still gets one, he he gets one target some games, like and one treatment from from defenders.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, yeah. Okay, I my bad. I thought you said Devontae Adams, but yeah, I'd still I'd take T over Devontae Smith too. Hey, but real quick on not a slam dunk easy, yes, either, but I'd still take him over.
SPEAKER_01:Real quick on Puka. He really is getting number two treatment, ain't he?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. No, Puka's getting number one treatment. Number he's getting I am the best player in the NF. I am fantasy football MVP treatment.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, but he ain't lining up at X.
SPEAKER_04:Who cares? He's he's getting 13 balls for 160 and a touchdown. I mean that's a lot of balls, man. 13. New Kung Fu Kitty! Come on, man. Hey, so does it so that's not even an even number of balls? How does that work? If I say 13 balls, you're into some freaking six. That's what's that seven dicks, and one guy just moves his nuts out the way. Come on, yo, new kung fu kitty. You're the one that's setting this up. This is what I'm saying. I 13 ball, it'd be one thing if it was an even number. It wasn't.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so uh, so with this flacco trade, that means uh Dylan Gabriel is the guy in Cleveland. They saw enough um Sunday, which I I I saw enough that says, hey, this guy can start for a few more weeks. He's at yeah, yeah. He he he can he he's good enough. I mean, I'm not saying he's gonna get us over the top, but I mean we're Cleveland. Uh so now that puts uh Shadura at uh quarterback two. Uh what do we think the future is for the uh Cleveland quarterback run?
SPEAKER_04:That they'll continue to lose games, and even if Dylan Gabriel plays decent, that Shador will get a crack at it because they have to just know what they have. And then from there, you know, if they like Dylan enough, he'll stay. Maybe Shador is the one that goes because they could maybe find somebody that want that would want to work on him or have him. Uh, or if obviously if you know if he plays well or whatever, maybe it's him, or neither of them are the answer, and they, you know, sign a Kirk Cousins or something and bring him in, especially if Stefanski's still there, because that would work. Um and he's the bridge for God, it won't be Arch. Um, he's the bridge for whoever's gonna be the next year guy. You know, it's it's it's hey, what are we talking about? This is the Cleveland quarterback room. Are you kidding me? I don't have faith in anyone. Who knows? Maybe Four comes back. Some people that that's been a rumor, by the way, that four, you know, that's what they call him on Twitter. There's like this Twitter page that everybody says is him, is his burner, because the person's always like four are gonna show him. If four comes back this season, there's rumors that four could come back this season. I think that they're gonna want to see what Deshaun Watson can do because one way or another he's cut after this year, and they're just gonna eat the money. They're already eating the money, so it's like just what difference does it make? Four.
SPEAKER_01:They four F-O-R-E, right? No, they just do the now. They literally type out just the number. Oh, we we want to see four play. Yeah, we're calling for four play. Yes, yeah. For four or two play, excuse me. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Um a lot of dirty minds in this room.
SPEAKER_01:Really quickly, um as of now, that John Gruden Discovery is coming out.
SPEAKER_04:Uh-huh. And what are your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER_01:It's not coming out.
SPEAKER_04:Why don't you think it's gonna come out?
SPEAKER_01:I I think that uh, you know, people like Jerry Jones, who just got fined a quarter million of dollars, uh will really see the their true fuck use. Yeah, yeah. And I think the NFL uh generates entirely too much money uh to get the fake blowback. Um and their sponsors would lose uh stock, their stock would drop temporarily for all the fake blowback, uh, even though everyone knows we're still gonna watch football because we love football as a nation more than we love God and country. Yeah, it's it's right behind those two things. Uh right ahead of those things. Not in my life personally. I think football's, you know, after committing my life to the country for 10 years, I think football is above country.
SPEAKER_04:So it's not God, family, football? Or no, it's faith, family, football, football.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they say that until you have like a family obligation or a faith obligation that interferes with football, and then it's a problem.
SPEAKER_04:It's a problem, but at the end of the day, you you're a grown man, you get to kind of still make your decisions.
SPEAKER_01:I I'm talking about when you're it playing football.
SPEAKER_04:Oh, right.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, no, no, my faith comes before football.
SPEAKER_04:Right.
SPEAKER_01:You know. I um my uh depends on who you are in my family will determine if you come before football. And some would say that I put football before them. Ooh, that's a dark joke. But no, I I hope that this the discovery comes out, it really won't change my football fandom because I still support the players and the sport the sport itself. And I'm not a person who ties my morals to all of my dollars. Uh and if the trickle-down effects uh still go to the players who dedicated their lives to playing football and just happen to be caught up in a uh system that we may disagree with, I'm still comfortable knowing that some of my dollars go to B. John Robinson's uh contract. Well, Bajon, right? No, you know, it's Bijan again.
SPEAKER_04:I know, because they did the Sunday night thing. Yeah, but you know, everybody was like, no, it's Bajon, and it's just like Man, that nigga name B John, bro.
SPEAKER_01:He ain't wasn't no Bajon. It's some shit he came up with it when he went to Texas to try to clean it up. You know good damn well anybody's name who is Bijan is if your name is spelled B-I-J-A-N, your name is B John. Even if your mama wanted you to be Bajon, everybody calls you B. John.
SPEAKER_04:You know, Denzel, his name is Denzel, apparently. Denzel Washington's name is Denzel. You talking about Barry Gott Barrett? Yeah, I get the joke.
SPEAKER_01:You know, his name was Denzel Crocker.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. Yeah. It looked like he glitched there a little. I mean, you very got Barrett, you know, it was crazy. Oh, it didn't land. No, it landed. I I said, I get where you're coming from, but yes, ha ha ha ha. Yes. Um he did an interview and he literally said that his dad's name was Denzel. Or his yeah, his dad's name was Denzel, and he's a junior, which I didn't know that he was a junior, but he's a junior, and whenever the mom would say Denzel, they would both look. And so to distinguish it, she said, You're Denzel, you're Denzel. And that it just kind of stuck from there, even though his name is really pronounced Denzel. Same thing with the Kelsey brothers, their last name is Kelsey, not Kelsey. But their coaches called him Kelsey, and it stuck. I don't I don't know the story behind why their theirs is pronounced wrong, but it would be like if I didn't go by Pierce.
SPEAKER_01:What would you go by?
SPEAKER_04:I don't know. I wouldn't let anyone. I mean, people call me Pete, obviously. That's whenever I order takeout, it's so much easier to just do that because if I spell my name, I know they're gonna pronounce it wrong. So it's like it just is all and then my brother Blair's may God rest his soul, he came up with the nickname Pete. He would just call, he said, What's going on, Pete? So it kind of just stuck.
SPEAKER_01:How do they pronounce your name when you when you spell it?
SPEAKER_04:Uh, I get Pierce, I get Pyrus, uh, I've gotten Paris before. I mean, I get a lot of stuff, never Pierce for whatever reason.
SPEAKER_01:My my phone calls you Paris.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, so I get it all. And you know, a substitute teacher loves to see my name coming. Does they're like, they're like, all right, I can fuck this one up as much as I want. They do.
SPEAKER_02:I know.
SPEAKER_01:Oh shit. Uh speaking of substitute teachers, do we need to substitute the fucking preseason polls out? Because uh I don't think they have value anymore with the transfer portal. Um you don't really know who is really who because teams aren't bringing the entire team back. Um and then teams have these elevated expectations, and other teams have to struggle to to get to move up in the polls simply because of where we rank teams and how we value these wins and losses. When ultimately we don't know anything, and in the you know, the professional leagues, the polls don't matter, you know the the the the wins and losses do. And and maybe we should move towards that model also in college football since we're turning it into to semi-pro football, right?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I mean you could you could say that. I you know, but there's a big difference, obviously. You know, now with college football, they want people to they want to approve betting and stuff, you know. That's what's going on in college football.
SPEAKER_01:Hey, yeah, real quick, that's some bullshit. How the fuck can they bet on themselves? I mean that's fucking greedy.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, we are that greedy because it's at the point where, and I obviously that the clip or the excerpt or whatever on Instagram we got, it didn't really break down what that meant. I'm gonna assume it means on other sports, like the NFL and stuff like that, but like it is still just worrisome because you know it's going on, it's going on right now in reality. Yeah, you know, but at least it's because it's so regulated and you're seeing players get popped, whether that's pros or college, because if you saw there were a bunch of college basketball guys that got popped for this. There's like five of them. We've seen the documentary of the kid that went to Arizona State, uh, and how they ended up getting caught for it back in the 90s. Um, again, Terry Rogier and Malik uh Beasley, who he's got some evidence on the cast.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, hey, hey, hey, and and and and neither guy has been found guilty of anything. They've just been investigated.
SPEAKER_04:Innocent until proven guilty.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, innocent. Innocent. They are innocent. Yeah, sure. Sure.
SPEAKER_04:Tell that to the judge.
SPEAKER_01:Um, but uh as the judge says they're guilty, then I'll call them guilty. But I don't even like saying innocent until proven guilty. I say innocent because that's what it is.
SPEAKER_04:Sure, Lee. Uh, but yeah, we should just throw out these preseason rankings.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I just think they're shit because then you create these expectations, and then Arch Manning is out here looking like somebody who might need to get benched, but his last name's Manning, and you can't bench him. But can you bench him? Should you bench him or should you let him like play through it and be better for next year? You know what I mean? Like, what do you do?
SPEAKER_04:Shark's job isn't on the line this year. No, it should be, he should be talked about in the same light as James Franklin because I know that that's the reason why this is a topic for us, because both of those teams lost this week. Now, James Franklin's was inexcusable. I don't care what you say. Um, they played against a team that even on their on their best day shouldn't be able to hang with Penn State, especially a Penn State coming off of a loss.
SPEAKER_01:Uh well, cross-country travel, it was a road game. Sure. So hey, I listened to Calheard and Clatt talk about this. Clatt said that uh uh Aller was the best player for Penn State on Saturday, and their offensive scheme is bad for him, so that's why he's not playing well. And Calheard gave Penn St tried to give Penn State a pass because they had to cross-country travel and their kids.
SPEAKER_04:Nah, I don't know about that. Um I don't know about that. I I I chopped that up to a lack of want-to and then a lack of coaching. I I mean there's so many different angles you could take. And you are getting a UCLA team that was desperate. They were very desperate, but it was also new, you know, leadership. And also, shame on you, CBS, for showing the offensive coordinator more than the head coach. And I'm not making this a race thing or anything because it's not a race thing, but they kept showing the white offensive coordinator the entire game. And I get it. He's calling the plays. Nico is out there looking like Bryce Young at Bama His in the year. That's what he looked like. But that was not the why are we showing the OC so much? They showed the OC the entire game, then they showed him getting carried off. And I get it, he's a former UCLA quarterback himself. Yeah, he which Rick was in the studio. They're showing him tear up with the CBS cast.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, bro, he's the offensive play caller. This nigga ain't even the head coach. What the fuck are we tearing up for? This ain't his first fucking win.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Why is he all over social media? See, I didn't even know that the head coach was black, I just didn't know who the fuck he was because they ain't showing him.
SPEAKER_04:Well, and let's not turn this into a Joe Brady, uh, Ed Orgeron type of ordeal, right? Joe Brady was getting sucked so hard. Um, and look, that offense was maybe the greatest we've ever seen in college football. Joe Brady, think about it, people were talking about Joe Brady getting head, he was a passing game coordinator. And they were talking about this man getting head coaching jobs in the NFL.
SPEAKER_01:But what people didn't realize was that offense had a top five quarterback in the NFL the day he showed up. And two top five receivers in the NFL the day they showed up.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:And they were just playing in college.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So now we've seen what Joe Brady is now that he has Josh Allen. Holy shit, you give him a top five quarterback in the NFL, this guy knows what the fuck he's doing.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, he's got a big Willie all of a sudden.
SPEAKER_02:But you give him talent, average talent.
SPEAKER_04:Man. Well, Joe Brady, he's in Buffalo right now, right?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. But remember he what what he was in uh Carolina as the OC. Yeah, it didn't go very well. And I and what he had, Sam Darnold and Baker, didn't he?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, he sure did. With Matt Rule under the helm, though. But nobody's gonna look at Joe Brady and say, oh, Joe Brady was a problem, which gets back to the new Heisel thing.
SPEAKER_02:But like, yeah, but like, but but but but while we're here on Joe Brady, Sam Darnold and fucking Baker Mayfield are playing some good fucking football.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, Baker's in line to maybe, not even maybe, if he keeps it up the rest of the year, he's gonna take over the top, he's gonna be the highest fake player in the league.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and he's an MVP candidate. Like he and Dak are killing shit.
SPEAKER_04:That boy Dak, man. Let me tell you, I was trying to, I was gonna make an offer to Matt because Matt's benching Dak and it's starting Matt Stafford.
SPEAKER_01:And Matt Stafford's playing pretty well too, but like Yeah, I'm like uh uh but yeah, Arch isn't playing well, and I think it's okay. He doesn't have experience. People forget that good players struggle even when they're on good teams. Yeah, Joe Burrow wasn't good his first year at LSU. Like I I I think we're getting to a point in sports where we're expecting immediate success because we see it from from good players. Yeah, we see it regularly, but I still don't think that should be the standard because back to Baker Mayfield, back to Sam Darnold, these guys are pay are playing to the level to which they're getting paid, if not more. And it took them a while. Sometimes it takes a minute, everybody doesn't show up day one killing shit, but we shouldn't be so quick to move on or fire just because we're not killing shit.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it's and that's a fair point. But uh to kind of wrap up, I guess, the college aspect of this. Yeah, I don't think getting rid of the can you really get rid of it? Can you can you get rid of it? No. Can it's it's look, it's just like five-star recruits and stuff. DJ Williangle is not, you know, I guess he's the third stringer out there in LA, but like top quarterback in his class that year, and he was with nothing but guys that are pros that are all starting. And you can't get rid of rankings, but at the end of the day, they don't have to mean anything. And Vegas, Vegas is the biggest sucker for it more than anything. Well, we as the consumer to Vegas is the biggest sucker because you goddamn right I took that Penn State 23 and a half, and then by halftime, I literally took UCLA money on because I said, I've got to save myself. And I did. They came back, I mean they stayed ahead and never released the league. But like, as soon as they were down 20, UCLA was still plus 110 at halftime. I said, let's get UCLA because I've seen enough. I've already seen it, and I was like, there's no way they dropped this game to them. I said it's James Franklin.
SPEAKER_01:Well, speaking of coaches and dropping games, look like Bill Belichick's ready to just drop a whole school.
SPEAKER_04:Well, he knows that he's already set up his son to be the successor, and you know how that's gonna work. If Bill ends up leaving, especially in the middle of the season, that contract is probably set up to where he has the interim tag this year. If Bill were to leave this year, interim tag this year, then he has one year next year, then they fire him immediately.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:Like they're gonna fire him immediately, and they're gonna get uh Lombardi's ass out of there. They gotta say, you people are football people. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_02:Like they're gonna send Lombardi back to the podcast.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, man, he'll be on Beaston. Uh getting to talk about, you know, how the Falcons are just a fucked up organization. That's what's gonna happen.
SPEAKER_01:You know what? Lombardi lost credibility as a uh as a media guy now. I mean, because they just have shit because like when he was in Cleveland and shit didn't work, you can be like, hey man, it's Cleveland. Uh it's hard to make shit work in Cleveland, you know. You you want to know who Lombardi is?
SPEAKER_04:Who Lombardi is Lombardi is consequence to Kanye to Bill Belichick's Kanye. Tell me more. So you saw the clip when Michael Shea uh got up on Kanye or whatever after the Red Hat thing on SNL. Yeah, my but consequence is a guy, consequence gets on, you know consequence is as a rapper, yeah. Like you know who he is. Yeah, he's probably the most loyal nigga to Kanye, like out of everybody. Yeah, not even close. But that's what Lombardi is. He's the last of the Mohicans when it comes to this thing. He's the last guy. You know, nobody really associates with Bill anymore, if we're being honest, nobody does. You know, he's got his 23, 24-year-old girl. You know, he's out here selling hope to guy to bad players. Matty P went to Ohio State. That's what I'm saying. Uh, and obviously, uh what's his face? Went back with Verable to New England. So it's like uh, yeah. McDaniels doesn't want to touch college. Man, let me tell you something. McDaniels is gonna continue to collect the check isn't OC because he's not gonna get a head coaching opportunity again. He's another one of those guys that was a coordinate, and he got a second chance. He will never be a head coach again. Not in the NFL, he won't be. No, he he's an offensive coordinator, and I think it's crazy because he has so much shelf life to where realistically he could still be a head coach again, but like it just isn't gonna happen. Because fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
SPEAKER_01:But also, like all the the the the media coming out of that year in Las Vegas and then having uh Devontae Adams on receivers and just some of that stuff and then him and Max Crosby on the podcast. It's like they they put the stink out on him to the players.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah and I just think uh overall you know is the Belichick tree finally withering up and dying oh brother is it's already dead kind of like Molly and ESPN some would say yeah sure why not right Molly at ESPN will you know it's it's crazy because when you start losing legs off of uh a show or anything for that matter it slowly but surely falls apart and maybe this could be the beginning of the end for first take not because Molly's that important but normally when a show gets taken down more and more and more it just it does wither away kind of like the Bell check trick and that's what I think is gonna ultimately end up happening and that's why they're moving Steve around I mean they're making Steve earn his money but they're moving Steve around why is Steve Smith on my Monday night countdown because they know that I'm not gonna turn it off because he's on there. Because they know that I'm there to watch the game I'm ready to hear Joe and Troy um and I'm not I'm not phased by Stephen A Smith when it comes to it but it's like my goodness I have to hear him talk about the game in the morning potentially in the afternoon then I have to hear him again at night then when basketball starts I'm gonna hear him every night because whenever ESVN has a game I have to listen to all of it. And so hey Pauly Peter don't forget when you're scrolling on IG he's gonna go viral on the Stephen A Smith show so you're gonna get that too yeah oh and then you know if I say you know what I'm done with sports let me turn to CNN let me turn to Fox News then it's Steve again and it's just like Steve is is Steve Smith trying to be God is he trying to be omnipotent omnipresent at all times in the media is he that guy now I mean I mean he he's you might see Steve Smith as much as you see Donald Trump.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah bro I I saw Steve Steve Smith talking about Jasmine Crockett but why I saw Steve Smith talking about Jimmy Kimball and pretty much saying hey Donald Trump is watching all his enemies you better fall in line it's like you know when I wake up every morning I think about making my bosses money oh that's crazy Steve bro that's some Kenny type shit man you wake up in the morning thinking about how to make another man money huh? Like would you you say you from Hollis, Queens would you go uptown to Harlem and say that to Dame Dash to his face say to Steve Smith of ESPN if he told him I wake up every morning thinking about how to make my bosses more money you know that's a good question.
SPEAKER_04:Nobody knows what Steve does in Hollis Queens.
SPEAKER_01:We just know he's from Hollis Queens allegedly well right well if you let Whitlock tell it we don't know anything about Steens we don't know where he played ball we don't know we don't know anything about the guy but uh we do know that he no longer wanted Montyquarum on the show and rightfully so for what it's worth I mean I mean I don't think she added$5000 in value to ESPN and that's why that first show afterwards he said I'm hosting because he was probably like give me that$500K he already took it yeah when he signed his contract they said hey Stephen A here's a list of people we can fire here's the people list of people that we will fire and these are the people that are gone already now you can take from the can fire and take off some of the we'll fire and I and I think Shannon opened up a little bit of money for us. Yeah Shannon yeah yeah Shannon helped us out yeah at the end of the day he says that he's the one who who makes these decisions who's gonna be on first take so at the basic level if he really wanted Molly querum there he makes enough money and he's he's given money back before right his work not mine that uh if he really wanted Molly there she would be there. But again they said she wanted to pay raise uh this is reported she wanted to pay raise from her uh$500,000 annually and she wanted an expanded role on ESPN but for the people again Molly get paid young nigga get paid but but you don't provide five hundred thousand dollars in value and and based on what you do on first take nothing about that says I want to utilize you in an expanded way on this platform.
SPEAKER_00:Right just personally like I'm and and maybe because she didn't display her chops as more than just a moderator you know we don't know maybe she you know maybe they should have gave her some mop up uh sports center duty on the weekend yeah to maybe get in her anchor bag because maybe that was there for but based on the way that she was positioned as a moderator I don't think her personality and the analysis that I have heard from her plays well into a different role like what you're gonna put her in Malika's place no they weren't gonna do that um because they just remember they read up Malika too so whatever they're giving her which I have to imagine is more than what they offered Molly of course because she does more to a decent and she's younger and hotter I don't think that matters I think it does and then you know her and Dave are a team if Dave goes she goes you know yeah I mean yeah when yeah sure that I mean then again I don't know if you saw their wedding but it all makes sense I'll leave it at that we can talk off mic about that one I'm just saying I mean we saw what kind of wedding it was I'll leave it at that I didn't see it I didn't even know they were married I thought they were still engaged okay well just take a look see and see I know that I know you're bullshitting but no I'm so serious I didn't well I tell you what let's take a look at what type of school look at Malika's background oh no I've seen I've same with Dave's background and they've got something in common and it's a part of their wedding oh maybe a religion I you said it not me got you not even I don't I don't I don't need to look anymore uh let me not talk too much uh there are people that are always listening to us right uh yeah yeah we don't want to offend BB um yeah three minutes left we gotta we gotta push yeah uh well I'm looking at it here we've got uh well let's get into Steve's while we're still on him obviously his thoughts on LeBron James and uh is there any way you can maybe even pull that up just so we can get the the I can't do you think do you think Steve's got some some copyrights on us here Steve doesn't care about us did I send it to you or to the group text he sent it to me oh yeah I got it here we go here we go here we go I'll stop playing let me turn this when they said that if you make a bad movie typically you don't have a sequel so if you look at the decision and the manner in which that was handled and the way it served to alienate folks back at that time you would think that he wouldn't want to remind people of that considering the heat he took from that and unfortunately he's t he was tone deaf and that's not the decision that's not the the path that he took this was corny as hell it was cringy it was all of that we know this um you know you're promoting an alcoholic beverage and trying to give people the impression that this could be your final season that you might end up retiring and so you know one other person joked and they said you know what that that's like Jordan compare that to Jordan saying you know I'm back. What if he had said LeBron was retiring but then it happened to be a Haynes commercial you know what if it had been something like that and that's what this was the equivalent of in the end um I don't understand the greatest player who ever lived one critic said it four time champion the four time league NVPers who have ever lived would would stoop to trying to garner attention for himself uh with something other than trying to win a damn championship. I want I want to be telling how to get his money a leg is gonna win legs gonna be in the pitch that that that's what I care about. I don't give a damn about some Hennessy commercial especially from him.
SPEAKER_01:Hennessy cares about it though if you play like garbage at any point in time when it really really counts I'm gonna think about the Hennessy commercial and wonder if you was drinking something something before the game I mean that's what's gonna have me thinking about I find those in I'm turning them off after that Stephen A Smith that's some of the nastiest shit you've ever done on TV that's some of the nastiest shit you've ever done on TV for one it's not you it's it doesn't matter what you want LeBron James to promote you don't own him he doesn't work for you y'all ain't friends y'all ain't family y'all ain't cool him promote like don't get me wrong I thought it was corny as hell too but LeBron is corny and if you know LeBron you know LeBron is corny so when I saw the decision too I'm like oh here goes some corny ass shit and then people like oh he's is he gonna retire like what I sent to you I spelled out I roll right like and then it's Hennessy and it's like wow selling the niggas liquor huh yeah man like like if if Steve would have took that stance like hey LeBron you're supposed to be a a positive role model for the black community but meanwhile you're out here pedaling black stereotypes by telling the whole world to stop and listen to you talk about like promote a a cognac brand that is associated with black culture. You know what Stephen A Smith I would be right there with you but you you you're not that nuanced of an individual and you're just gonna you're gonna say I all I want to hear you talk about is winning basketball. Hey LeBron James big fan I don't want to hear you promoting hennesy dog I think it's nasty work. Those disgusting that make the whole world stop for you to promote some fucking hennesy it's so niggerish. Right. But Stephen A Smith and then to finally suggest that if they're not playing good I'm a thing of you on it bro what the fuck we doing now dog for one you know that players play hungover because you've covered teams and that's stuff that's that's plenty of guys will come out and said that they were drinking before games but that's not for you to say media man and then to even suggest that if LeBron's play a nigga who's playing in year 23 at the age of 40 if LeBron sucks next year it's okay. It's not because of the hitty yeah the drop off from last year would be like what the fuck but who the hell do we expect to be good at 40 in year 25 you know what I mean well only the king himself okay Steve start calling you Parley A Smith.
SPEAKER_04:Steve Stevie start calling you parley isn't that what Molly called him Stevie I think at one point in time during their uh or I know I know it was SA too because the chick that claims that she dates Stephen A was like she's using that to hang over his head saying sexual assault is something crazy. You remember you know what I'm talking about.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah yeah yeah Stephen A's girlfriend had just popped out of nowhere like around his contract time and then she disappeared and we haven't heard from her again yeah well Steve Steve had to you know go he had to go you know she she she's not a real human being she was an AI. What type of women do you think Stephen A gets uh young Latinas Okay so you don't think he's into the Tortas the Torta Latinas I I I I think that he he he he pays for Dominican women and he doesn't he he cramps I think he's I just think he's a trick yeah I mean like what about Stephen A. Smith says good hang and I may sound like a hater but like nothing about his demeanor on air says he's a good fucking hang yeah would you would you want to hang out with Stephen A. Smith if it if it gets me on ESPN and he he wants to no no no no no no no I'm not talking about professionally I mean good time no I'd rather hang out with that idiot Gronk like does Ryan Clark say hey he's a good hang probably not I mean you know well you catch Ryan Clark at the uh host office at the aria so we know what Ryan Clark likes to do I think Fred Taylor and Shannon Crowder make him seem cool and he probably is cool but he's not cool on air and because he's not cool on air I don't fuck with that shit so even if you are a cool ass nigga you ain't cool if that makes any sense I tell you what you rather get a beer with RG3 or get a beer with Stephen A.
SPEAKER_04:Oh RG3 just just because he's a Heisman winner right be like yeah I had a beer with the Heisman winner.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah like uh I think RG3 is a weird nigga I think he's a cornball brother but I feel like Steven Snowing I ain't going oh absolutely I I I think Stephen A is gonna try to put me on game the whole time we're having a beer and then he doesn't he doesn't come away with the chick's number that he's talking about he's like now see that one right there nah he's gonna be like you know if you really want to work in this media industry man is what you his like hey you gotta get your confidence up like that one right there. It's like hey go over there you tell her hey I'm I'm AC Lee the watch the winning podcast and when she says what's that you tell her it's the best damn podcast honestly and you crazy as hell because you don't listen to it you know I wouldn't be surprised if that was some shit that that nigga would say though as advice I really wouldn't as I'm saying it I say I might start doing it.
SPEAKER_04:Well Steve is pretty predictable at that point right but yeah to to wrap a bow on him because I know we got to hurry up and jet through some of this other stuff um yeah Steve grow up man like what is this why are we trying to put down LeBron we get it you don't like him that's okay he doesn't like you what was the point of even having that as a segment everybody knew he wasn't retiring again I figured it was gonna be something they said Amazon Prime that was like one of the rumors it was Hennessy all right whatever he already had a deal with them throw the fuck up I thought I thought they may have announced some NBA Europe something like I'm going to NBA Europe in 2027. I'm just like all right whatever nigga not even that worst case scenario if it even had anything to do with basketball maybe it would have been coming 2026 we'll get to see who's the real king of the court because we're gonna have the Emirates Cup will involve the top four teams in Europe. Yeah but you know uh another star player who might actually be on the move Giannis and we can do this real quick man these I do I do think he's gonna be gone because the reality of the situation is why is it that that even comes out as a rumor and then then they do address it and then he says you know what in six months you never know it's just like you're basically saying kind of saying championship or bus or forcefully get somebody here even though we have no assets to trade to get anybody here it's it's not a matter of if it's a matter of when and if Milwaukee's smart I don't know what they would be able to get for him at all star break but you know yeah I think he's gone I I just don't know why he would leave I don't think any situation gets markedly better and dog you got your MVPs you got your championships you are Milwaukee why don't you just stay there and give them the opportunity opportunity to try to retool around you again you know what I mean because he'll be 35 by the time that happens so what hey the kids the wife they moved to Greece let Giannis have some fun in a big city huh not that you know the New York media wouldn't fucking see him out with some 24 year old influencer if he was walking around Brooklyn or you know fucking Dumbo or something right like I mean but like like let's think about it parlay pito you know players bounce around trying to win and any in these quick fix situations but if you are a Giannis a joker you know a solidified guy in a city and you brought a ring there why would you leave if you continue to be a playoff team and yeah you can't you haven't gotten over the hump but Milwaukee they tried LeBron left again yeah he brought a championship and he left it's off the court though he wanted all of his off the court shit but higher higher quality of living and if we're looking at it that way then I I don't have an argument for you but I just think there's value in staying somewhere and just being the guy there and shit man everything is yours.
SPEAKER_01:You know what I mean like Giannis doesn't pay for anything in Milwaukee and I know Milwaukee is not like the best place in the world but he's still getting uh valuable information so that he can make more money outside of the salary cap the right way haha stock tip not actually uh fake endorsement deals Steve Ballmer and and so he can grow his empire and he's and like Giannis specifically he supersedes any market now you know like he's he's Giannis so it doesn't matter where you put Giannis he's gonna get the endorsement stuff but yeah any oh wow we are running out of time um yeah did he did he got four years real quick did he got four years how do we feel about that Paul um you know this was my thought I thought that it was a little harsh in a sense of considering what they convicted him of but that was payback for more of what he did and then even when you break down the numbers if you get 50 months it's four years two months right he's they've given him 14 months time sir so it's it's I think they gave him 54 months okay so it's 40 months I heard yeah I heard it was yeah I read somewhere where it's 40 it was yeah but still you gotta do 85% of your time and then the way that they made it sound as if he might qualify for a certain program to where that knocks it down to where he'll spend the second half of the sentence basically in a halfway house anyways which will be plush and you know he'll be out kind of it'll be a halfway house but he'll be out and you know he won't be a menace to society and I guess that that's the biggest thing right typically when these sentencings happen it's the idea of are they a threat to society obviously when people like Cassie write uh their those letters and others come in basically saying they fear for their life still or retaliation he's a very powerful man you guys are underestimating him look at how long he's been in it you know he can get me touched without touching me or without you ever finding out that he's the one that got me touched and then it looks like something just ironically happened to me I get it but I still thought it was just kind of harsh I feel like he's already been in there for a year. The reality of the situation is um and not to quote 6ix9ine but he was on academic and basically he said he beat the feds he said niggas don't win Rico cases they said young thug took a pulley you know on his deal and that he didn't beat it diddy didn't take no putdy essentially beat a Rico case and he's only getting 40 months and the one thing and although there was precedent for it uh them being able to use stuff from the other charges that he wasn't convicted of in his sentencing just overall that bothers me and again there's there's there's case law and precedent for it so the judge was not outside of their reach to do it I I just think that's dangerous to where if I'm convicted if I'm can if I'm accused of something you can use that to add to my conviction even if I wasn't convicted of that but well at the same time but at the same time I there I have no sympathy for for Diddy even if I'm not a fan of how it the process played out uh yeah so fuck him yeah and and again just and we can put a ribbon on it but like with him his professionally he's already ruined like he'll never have those endorsements again he's not gonna work with Sirac again he's not gonna just that that Cassie video you know pretty much ended his professional career to a degree yanks are cooked oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah welcome to October yeah and that's typically when it ends I mean think about it out last year was kind of an admiration for them you know yeah but uh ladies and gentlemen it is time for Parlay Page football six six six six all right so we've got a nice little slate here of college picks uh I kind of really like this slate honestly and Lee I know you're gonna disagree with me on this but again it's back to the fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me I'm gonna have to get fooled twice Northwestern at Penn State I'm gonna take Penn State minus 20 and a half I just don't see how they can't bounce back at home against Northwestern.
SPEAKER_04:Northwestern's not very good. Give me Penn State 20 and a half next we got Arkansas headed to Rocky Top a good old friend of ours named Bobby Petreto back on the sidelines as an HC at Rocky Top they got the over under set at 68 and a half I'm gonna take the under I honestly I just don't see the points getting scored not that high. Maybe it does maybe we do have a 40 to 35 tight game I don't see it. Give me an under 68 and a half that's a really high over under next we got Clemson at Boston College that we picked Dabo last week to thump Bill. He's gonna thump Boston College too Dabo's on his revenge tour. Dabbo back in the rankings let me get Clemson minus 13 and a half on the spread next we got a peculiar game here South Florida at North Texas. Did a little research on North Texas not understanding why this game's a pick them anyways if they want to give free money take the free money uh South Florida on the money line next we got the Red River shootout Oklahoma at Texas it's bounce back week baby let me get Sarkin Arch to get it done because I know they said Mateira might play. I don't think he's gonna play if he does play he's gonna be playing injured Texas's back's against the wall I'm gonna take Texas on the money line out there in Dallas. Then finally we got the dogs at Auburn another curious line here we're not gonna take the points but we're just gonna take Georgia on the money line I don't think Auburn's better than Georgia so give me Georgia all righty so we got Penn State minus 20 and a half Arkansas at Tennessee under 68 and a half Clemson minus 13 and a half South Florida on the money line Texas on the money line and UGA on the money line yep let's get it ladies and gentlemen it is time for Parlay Peach NFL six yeah and six six six this is what it's all about right so we're gonna get into this really really quickly all right we got the chargers at the Dolphins 42 and a half the overunder we're gonna take the over i i mean maybe the chargers come out there and have a dominant defense for us but I expect some points to get scored especially because the lack they're up for the Chargers next we got the Arizona Cardinals at the Indianapolis Colts baffling line minus six and a half Colts easy money easy easy money next we got Dallas at Carolina Panthers I like Dallas minus two and a half Dax been playing like an MVP I expect him to put up points Carolina is not good. Next we got Seattle at Jacksonville I'm drinking the Kool-Aid let me get the Jaguars on the money line at home tough spot for Seattle to have to go all the way down to Jacksonville. Next we got the New England Patriots at the New Orleans Saints I like under 47 and a half I don't see the Saints score very many points but the Saints defense is kind of their best thing about that team. And then finally I know I said three weeks ago that I wouldn't do this again but goddamn the spirit is in me. Buffalo Bills at the Atlanta Falcons we're gonna take the Falcons money line I think the Falcons are going to win this game.
SPEAKER_01:I like the Falcons all right so we've got uh Chargers at Dolphins over 42 and a half Colts minus six and a half Dallas minus two and a half Jags on the money line Patriots and Saints under what's that number on that under 47 and a half under 47 and a half and the Falcons on the money line well I know you like that.
SPEAKER_04:Well I liked it so that means that you love it.
SPEAKER_01:If you like it then I love it. And that means it's time for Lee's three three please three yeah so for Leeds three this week is actually uh pretty difficult uh but I'm gonna take Texas on the money line I like Texas on the money line a lot uh I'm also gonna take the Colts minus six and a half the Cardinals aren't as good as I thought they would oh they're just not a good team bro and then uh finally let me get the Cowboys uh minus two and a half uh I like that number for Dallas uh Dax been killing shit and yeah they can win by field goal we love it we love it well we've got about a minute and a half here Lee I think it's time to see what AC Lee and Parley Pete got something to say uh what do I have to say hey man we should care more about the government shutdown than Cardi B and Nicki Minaj Black America like know what's going on and know how it's affecting our communities and be more active a lot of voters in Georgia if you haven't voted in like the in so many voting cycles you uh lose your registration so make sure you know your status and get registered to vote beautifully beautifully put uh with my 30 seconds here I'm gonna go ahead and let everybody know the new app Sora it is the fucking wildest shit anyone that's been paying attention to the page saw that we put up Tupac Shakor giving us a nice little shout out that's what he listens to when he's in the car uh down there in uh Havana but uh yeah crazy app anyone that hasn't heard about it it's gonna blow up soon it's just like TikTok but with AI videos it's insane yeah and we'll probably have a deeper sore conversation later but uh hey parlay Pete great show buddy hey fantastic show salutations good people all right big dog all right brother
