Culturally Inappropriate with A.C. Lee
Unfiltered. Unapologetic. Unafraid to say what needs to be said.
Culturally Inappropriate with A.C. Lee is where sharp wit meets grown-man perspective. A mature rebrand of Big Baby’s Podcast, this show dives headfirst into the intersections of sports, politics, hip-hop, and culture—without watering down the truth.
From the barbershop to the boardroom, A.C. Lee blends humor, intellect, and raw honesty to tackle the conversations others avoid. Each episode brings bold takes, cultural critique, and unapologetic storytelling shaped by Southern roots, Cartersville pride, and Atlanta energy.
If you’re tired of safe conversations and cookie-cutter commentary, you’ve found your spot. This isn’t about being politically correct—it’s about being culturally inappropriate.
Culturally Inappropriate with A.C. Lee
Washed and Winning: Deja Vu: Same Old Falcons
When does a pattern become an identity? For Atlanta Falcons fans, Sunday's loss to Tampa Bay wasn't just another defeat—it was the continuation of a two-decade saga where the faces change but the story remains painfully the same.
This episode dives deep into the Falcons' organizational problems that transcend coaches, quarterbacks, and players. Whether it's Michael Vick, Matt Ryan, or now Kirk Cousins and Michael Penix Jr., the results follow a frustratingly familiar script. We explore how Arthur Blank's ownership since 2001 and a particular front office executive's presence since 2004 represent the only constants in this ongoing disappointment.
Despite the heartbreak, rookie Michael Penix Jr. provided glimpses of hope with his poise and playmaking ability under difficult circumstances. We analyze his performance and what it means for Atlanta's future, while also dissecting the kicking situation that cost them a chance at victory.
Beyond Atlanta, we break down an electrifying Week 1 across the NFL, including the Bills' remarkable comeback against the Ravens, Miami's complete collapse against Jacksonville, and what these performances tell us about the season ahead. We also touch on the WNBA playoff race, Basketball Hall of Fame inductions, and offer our picks for college and NFL games in Week 2.
For Falcons fans and football lovers alike, this episode offers honest analysis, passionate debate, and the perspective that only comes from those who've experienced the highest highs and lowest lows of sports fandom. Subscribe now and join the conversation about what it takes to build a winning culture in professional sports.
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Speaker 1:Well, yeah, you press the button.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I was off the screen because I was setting us up to go live on Instagram.
Speaker 1:So I guess I'm the eggplant emoji here. Huh for saying that.
Speaker 2:I'd never refer to you as an eggplant emoji. I don't even use that emoji. It's not in my emoji decks.
Speaker 1:It's not in mine either, but to keep it PG-13 the first two minutes I had to make sure I related to that demographic and then also not say what I want to say, even though you just called me one.
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:In pre-production here.
Speaker 2:I mean, maybe I think you could have referred to a chicken, you could have referred to Josh Holsey's call sign. I think we could have got it all. They all fall under the same belt, sure? I mean you could have said, you could have honestly said so what am I, josh Holsey, here, and I would have understood exactly what you meant, or, dave?
Speaker 1:I didn't want to take an unnecessary shot at our buddy Shout-outs to Josh. He got off. You know it's crazy. Actually, I had the least amount of points in fantasy this week. Somehow he practically had four people that did nothing, so maybe that just goes to show just how bad my roster was this week.
Speaker 2:Ryan you said you had the Atlanta dream.
Speaker 1:I do, I do, I do. We had a bad week, and that's okay. My two highest scorers were on my bench. I didn't expect either of them, but they're the ones that performed. I had one touchdown. Josh Jacobs got me a touchdown in the third or fourth quarter, and that was it.
Speaker 2:But I know about our fantasy shenanigans.
Speaker 1:You won Bad coaching job. Bad coaching, yeah oh am I in? I mean, if your best scores were on the bench, I would say that's a Not everybody was going to start Javante Williams or Michael Penix and honestly, I was tempted to start Michael Penix I'm not going to lie because I just knew how bad, like what Kirk Cousins did. So I was like God, michael Penix probably is going to play. Well, now I know.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, we're here.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean, forget the intros, nothing else matters. And, bro, I can't see. There you go, here we go, we are all here to do what we do. It's ridiculous, it's obvious what's being done out here. It's a nightly basis. I hope the world can see now what's really going on out here, because it's getting ridiculous. It's really ridiculous. Yes, man, this is ridiculous, man, ridiculous parley p. Uh little case of the deja vu this past Sunday.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I don't know. I think Boogie Cousins just described it perfectly.
Speaker 2:What did Boogie say?
Speaker 1:He said it's getting ridiculous.
Speaker 1:He said it's really ridiculous, he's like yes man, this is ridiculous, this is ridiculous, because it's the same story over and, over and over again and there's only one constant since this story began. There's only one. There's one. Well, there's two. Technically. There's only one. There's one, well, there's two. Technically. Doesn't matter who's that quarterback, whether it's michael vick, matt ryan, joey harrington, by our left wedge, marcus mariotta, desmond ritter. Michael penn is kirk cousin doesn't matter who's that quarterback we're still got kind of getting like the same results in these games everything's the same taylor heineke Taylor, heineke, yeah, doug Johnson, I mean let's just throw Danny Canale in there too.
Speaker 1:Why not Chris Chandler siding? I mean it's the same thing, but certainly since 2004,. It's been kind of like the same thing, and Arthur Blank's been the owner of the team since 01. Arthur Blank's been the owner of the team since 01, and a certain somebody, who shall not be named, he's been in the front office since 04. So you have to ask yourself and think about it, even in the big spots. You know, I'm not going to bring up 28-3 because that's the irrelevant one, but still just the way that we lose these games. I'm not going to bring up 28-3 because that's the irrelevant one, but still just the way that we lose these games and the way that this stuff happens.
Speaker 2:Kaepernick game in 2012 maybe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's many. The Chargers game the same the Super Bowl year. I don't know the Dallas Cowboys in Dallas.
Speaker 2:Pretty much every home game we've gone to over the last five years.
Speaker 1:The Carolina Panthers game to end the year. Last year, I mean, we literally ended our season and started it the same way, except that we at least went to overtime. We at least went to overtime in that game, but in this one you know?
Speaker 2:Hey, before you say his name, because I'm going to let you finish, should anybody be a W-2 employee for a company for 21 years when there's very little room for elevation? You know you come in with a job that he had. There's only like two more jobs you can get. You come in as a GM. Then you can get the president of football operations, where you're over the whole football operation right and then become the team president or, excuse me, the AMG president, where he manages.
Speaker 2:He's over business when he's over everything. You know. But at the end of the day you can't own the team and you come in reporting directly to the owner or you got one person between you and the owner. It's only one. We're talking about horizontal growth here. I don't want somebody in my company for that long unless we are a top one percenter, and I probably still don't want them there that long. You know what I mean. Like it's not like Bill Belichick the coach. You know, when you're the coach, you're at the top of your profession. Now you could decide to move into personnel if you want to, but when you become the head ball coach, that is the crescendo. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Well, this person that cannot be named is a football lifer. He's won a Super Bowl as a general manager. That was 20 fucking years ago. Hasn't done anything in the league, since, except for be the head of the competition committee, even when he's not, involved in football operations with the team that he's associated with.
Speaker 1:Well, they claim that he's not. They claim that he's not. He doesn't have anything to do with it. Remember, he deals with the sorry-ass soccer team sorry ass soccer team. A soccer team that was doing just fine before, apparently, he got over and they've sucked ever since. Now that, I mean people still go to the games, but you know it's also a good time to go out and get I don't know eight items for $20. If you want to take the fans out and those tickets are way cheaper than ours.
Speaker 2:And you know, they brought a championship to the city too, didn't they?
Speaker 1:Year two. They won the whole thing their second year in at Zixons, and he wasn't a part of that, though he was still on our side while we were struggling and everybody was getting distracted because it was the beginning of the end for Matt Ryan and Julio Jones. That's what was going on when they won it was the beginning of the end.
Speaker 2:So him not doing his job correctly? Because he did not properly. He didn't have people ready to fill those roles who were willing to fill those roles and capable of filling those roles Right. Because we had a Julio replacement who showed that he was capable but then he showed he wasn't willing and we went after a Matt Ryan replacement who we now know wasn't capable.
Speaker 1:He wasn't really a Matt Ryan replacement, though in reality Not because of what we know, but just the reality of them drafting him- no, no, no.
Speaker 2:We all knew that in advance. I'm not talking about the guy we drafted. I'm talking about the guy we went after that then kicked Matt Ryan out the door.
Speaker 1:Oh.
Speaker 2:Because he would have retired a Falcon after that season. Wouldn't it have been worse?
Speaker 1:Do you think our situation would be worse today? Hell yeah, if Deshaun Watson now. But we don't know if Deshaun Watson is Cleveland Deshaun here Now. We also probably don't have Michael Penix. Honestly, kirk Cousins never comes here.
Speaker 2:Bro, we're in cap hell still. We would have just escaped cap hell to get right back in cap hell Because, no, we didn't guarantee him the full contract, but we guaranteed him a hefty sum in long term and, kind of like Tiger, once your cover, we guaranteed him a hefty sum and long-term, and, uh, kind of like tiger. Once your cover gets blown, like Manta, I tell you, once your cover gets blown, like Gilbert arenas, once you lose that superpower and you're worried about people looking at you and you're not just being an athlete in the arena, you're not good anymore. And that's what happened to Deshaun Watson. So, yeah, we'd be in a worse place. We'd probably be benched, we'd probably have a young stud or a young quarterback in front of him and we'd be on a path to nowhere.
Speaker 1:We're going to get back to this because it's going to bring it full circle once we talk around the league, but of course, we're going to stick to our Falcons right now. Yeah, gosh, our Falcons. I think I told you this. I, honestly, as soon as the kick missed, I walked straight out the stadium because I know you had hit me and you said where am I? And then, julian Turner, you may not.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's not confuse anybody.
Speaker 1:Julian turner, you know, sent the group and said, hey, you're not picking up. I was on the train because I was already halfway home and so I left immediately. I didn't want to. You know, in the club they have a party after. They're still serving drinks, food probably put up, but like you can basically hang around a whole hour after the game, I wanted no parts of it because there's nothing to celebrate. What do we? And this is the issue with the falcons as an organization? And and it starts to make justice look like fucking albert einstein. And it's not that justice isn't a smart individual.
Speaker 2:But he said there are the blanks of hot dog salesman.
Speaker 1:I'm starting to believe it, because the rollout for the food and stuff gets a lot of attention from espn. A lot of likes on social media. Everybody's amazed by it. They're like, oh my god, they just love their fans. No, they don't. No, they don't because they keep putting the same out on the field and we're tired of it. Everybody should be tired of this shit, man. You should be tired of it.
Speaker 1:Everything that I saw on the field indicated to me that we're going 7-10 or 8-9 again. That's what it looked like. But there's a bright spot Our quarterback. But there's a bright spot our quarterback. Considering how terrible the play calling was and the idea that we couldn't run the ball, I thought he played very well. I thought that he was prepared. I thought that he did everything he could do to win the game. And that's all I asked for. That's all anyone should ever ask for out of their quarterback. Well, you go out there and make plays if you can, and that's what he did. When he needed to make them plays, he made plays. He can't. He's still practically a rookie, so he's not going to line up and be Peyton Manning and audible out of Zach Robinson's play calling.
Speaker 2:Not yet.
Speaker 1:Maybe soon, soon come, hopefully, since play calling Not yet. Maybe soon, soon come, soon come. I was surprised you didn't give me a drop there.
Speaker 2:Hey, you know what you might get. Lucky he might have a coach with a lot of money in his pocket who may want to be an OC at the next level. That would never happen, but it sounded really good.
Speaker 1:Who are you talking about specifically here? Oh Kalen, oh hey, our offensive coordinator. If things go to shit this year, our offensive coordinator. He's in Miami right now getting ready to rethink his ink and put together a different playbook than everything that he's had, because he would actually come here and I think, as an OC, would be a good fit.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, because we have a quarterback with a cannon and not a noodle.
Speaker 1:We have a better Tua in reality. That actually is kind of an easier way to look at Michael Penix. Is he not just like a better Tua or what Tua? I think people thought Tua should be.
Speaker 2:He's Tua with a cannon.
Speaker 1:But just like how Tua can run and he's got injury, because our guy has injury too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he has a cannon, but he has a cannon, but he has a cannon.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, he can throw the ball.
Speaker 2:75 yards on one knee. It's Wheezy Baby Niggas bitching, so I got to tote the cannon Cannon right I got duct tape and rope. I keep you missing like the fucking old Bannons. One handles my money. One handles my money. One handles my money. That's the AK-47. That boy, wayne, used to spit dog. He did, he did. Nobody could freestyle better than him.
Speaker 1:No no.
Speaker 2:I will always give Wayne his credit and his flyers where they're due.
Speaker 1:Because it's crazy, because you can only say that you did have to be there. You had to be there in order to actually get that. But let's not get too off track here, because we still got some ass to lay into. We haven't even got to the kicker.
Speaker 2:I haven't even gotten started yet. I'm letting you go, I know, I know.
Speaker 1:Michael Penix played well. Michael Penix played well. We can't really blame B John. I mean the holes weren't there or the play calling was just that bad. But all in all, we saw how important Darnell Mooney is to the team, because that's no offense to Kaderil Hodge, casey Washington or Ray-Ray McLeod. But the reality of the situation is this Tampa did not have to have a deep third because there was no deep threat.
Speaker 1:That quarterback who you were just talking about the cannon. He didn't have anybody that he could throw one of those balls to. In reality, he didn't really, and that's kind of one of the flaws here. Is that the depth behind our wide receiver. Two there isn't a lot of else that can do that.
Speaker 2:It's not even the depth behind our wide receiver. Two, it's that we don't have another respectable deep threat.
Speaker 1:And maybe that's why we got Rondell Moore right who got hurt last year and then also got hurt in a preseason game this year and is out in season.
Speaker 1:That was maybe why, when you trade Desmond Ritter for him, you're like, well gosh, he's good enough to be wide receiver five. Desmond Ritter is not worth anything to us. We were going to cut him anyways, so we might as well, you know, kick the tires on this guy, but obviously it didn't work out. Is Des at Radio Shack now? Man, I heard he was door dashing still.
Speaker 2:You know what? I have some nerve to say that with my unemployed ass. Well, hey, dan, come join us on the couch man.
Speaker 1:You know we could. I wouldn't mind if he wanted to explain himself. I could be Big Bank and he could be Young Thug.
Speaker 2:He could explain everything, except you know we don't have audio phone calls.
Speaker 1:We've just got visual of what we saw and maybe he could come on the show and explain everything and he could tell me how. You're just dumb ass fan. You don't know anything about college football. I went against Nick Saban and that's why I got drafted.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you lost.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but, but, but the fact that I could make it to even be there. Their appetizer they like. What about you? He's like you throw in a parlay here and there it hits, and then you go all in six. That's what he says to me.
Speaker 2:He's like you're out here having to sue people.
Speaker 1:That's what's going on with you. He's like meanwhile me. He's like I'm chilling dog. He's like, yeah, I'm not playing ball, but neither are you, and I'm like okay. Point for me, des doesn't mean you're still not shitty. It didn't change anything. The shitter nickname still exists.
Speaker 2:Hey, Desmond, you may be winning at life, but you didn't win at football. You just weren't a good football player.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'm not taking shots at you as a man.
Speaker 2:Not to you as a man no, no, no.
Speaker 1:I'm saying you didn't clock in for work and you were trying to steal. You were stealing time. I'd say it about any nigga that walks around here and steals time and thinks that they're going to keep getting a paycheck on my dime. If I find out somebody's clocking in and stealing time and the people that I work with and for basically are telling me, hey, we're not going to count five of these hours. Man, we saw your boy. He stole time, he wasn't doing nothing, so we can't, we can't pay you, you get fired. You get fired. But here, hold on, we are going too long on desert river. He is not worth our time. New kung fu lee, you have the floor. I'm sorry, we can combine on the kicker. I'm going to wait. That's actually really complicated. We can go on the kicker together.
Speaker 2:It's ridiculous, hey, but look, it's a culture problem and there's a part of me and we'll get into this later I'm starting to think it's a bird problem.
Speaker 2:Okay cash money and it starts at the top. It's time for Arthur to sell the team. It's time for Arthur Blank to sell the team. You're going to profit off of it. You negotiate whether or not you want to keep the bins. I understand why you want to keep that investment around. Makes you a lot of money, you know. Obviously it drops the price in the sale. So you know you have more people that may want to get in on ownership. Maybe you know you have more people that may want to get in on ownership, right, maybe you know you know, maybe he comes up and saves today.
Speaker 2:Perfect city for him to want to get invested with, exactly, but it's time for Arthur Blank to sell the team because, as you spoke on, there are certain people in the building whose names we shall not say Lord Voldemort, we see the same thing in and out. Coach and staff doesn't matter. The GM doesn't matter, the quarterback doesn't matter, the defense doesn't matter. We can have a great defense. We can have a good pass rush. We can have a good offense. We can have a bad offense. We can have a good pass game. We can have a good pass game. We can have a good run game. It does not matter what we trot out on the field. What we consistently do is blow leads and blow games, blow leads. And while we're here, we had a great pressure rate, top four in the league, 40% pressure rate. You know what we didn't do. We didn't get home. We didn't contain Baker when he needed to make plays on the ground. Mike Evans didn't do much, but on.
Speaker 2:Thursday. They needed him. He was there. Emeka Buka, first time on the NFL field. This is AJ Terrell's first year having the same quarterback too, and apparently allegedly according to Mike Evans Ibuka was in the huddle and said hey, give me the post, I'm going to win the game A rookie. And he did it. Shout out to him he's my flex, but it's absolutely disgusting.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:The pass rush doesn't get home and the coverage doesn't hold up in the time that it matters. Year in and year out we played a great defensive game through three quarters. We held we held Tampa Bay to what? 17 points through the majority of the four quarters Great defensive output. Baker did not get in rhythm, bucky Irvin, he started to get in rhythm late, but they didn't run all over us either, but we still hey. Once they got in that two-minute offense, we knew what time it was. Falcons fans knew what time it was.
Speaker 1:Lee, I am surprised you're wearing. It looks like a Falcons pullover. I couldn't even wear my Falcons hat today, because there's nothing proud to be about. I'm sitting here now, you know I'm praying, I'm mourning, I'm praying. I'm praying because today is Wednesday and our kicker is still on the roster. Now I will be the first to say it.
Speaker 1:I don't blame Youngway Coup for the loss. I don't blame him for why we lost. I blame him for not giving us a chance to win, but I don't blame him for the loss. At the end of the day, Youngway Coup did what he did last year and that's why his ass shouldn't be here anyways. He was never supposed to have been here.
Speaker 1:He had a whole kicking competition with a black German kicker and I said to you, as soon as the schedule got released, I said, hmm, we signed this black German kicker. They've been showing him off. We play a game in Germany this year. I'm like, maybe they're trying to set up for this guy to get a chance to kick, you know, in his home country. And then we cut him and Koo's there and I'm like, okay, Koo must have not missed a goddamn thing in practice, must have not missed anything. Preseason I didn't watch preseason, guys, I'm sorry. Outside of maybe that first game and a couple of drops, I didn't watch preseason, nothing to watch, and so I'm like, hmm, maybe Kuz back to you know, when we still weren't winning games, but at least he was making kicks. I was wrong. He's not because he can't make a 44-yard field goal in the clutch Inside he made the first one.
Speaker 1:Let's give him a round of applause, people. Young Waco made it. The guy that just paid $5.5 million a year made a kick he made the kick, but then we needed him to make one. He couldn't.
Speaker 2:Well, when they frozen, he made the first one.
Speaker 1:Look, I don't know if him and McLaughlin were going back and forth saying no, no, no, I'm going to fuck this game up. No, no, no, I'm going to fuck this game up. No, no, no, no, I'm going to fuck this game up. Because he fucked my fantasy team up. I wasn't going to win anyways, but he missed an extra point and a kick. And then it's like Koo's, like I'll do you one better, I'll seal the game for you. He's like you just messed up because we would have my ass, would not have even had to kick. If you just made the extra point, you guys would have had to score a touchdown. But instead I but instead I'm going to give you the floor to choke this one away. You choke it away. His ass shouldn't be here. Them signing my man that played for Minnesota last year. They're teasing us. They're teasing us, you know, and Kuma's hurt too, because, if you remember, we lose that game to Washington because we don't make that game.
Speaker 1:When it field goal on Sunday night we had enough time in regulation to end that game and that game doesn't go to overtime. Missed there too Long field goal, though that was like a 59-yard. This one was 44 indoors and it was shitty weather and he missed a 59. He was new to the team that week, so we can be mad at him, but cut him a little slack. Him a little slack. He's weak on the job. He made a mistake in a big moment. That was also tough for anyone to do. Young Wayne Coon's missing field goals in a place that he's been kicking his whole career. They can miss me with that shit. Get his ass out of here. Get his ass out, man, get him out. Get him out. What more do we need to see? San Francisco said hey, moody, we spent a third-round pick on you, get to stepping His fucking key access. They didn't even let him get to come to the facility and see that the key access code didn't work Instead we signed a guy to practice squad Like what are we doing?
Speaker 1:What are we doing? Youngway could have missed more field goals than Jake Moody last year. Jake Moody had a rough day. They won, but our keeper is still here. We're about to go into probably a top five environment for a football game. I love Minnesota, minnesota's great.
Speaker 2:It is Top five defense too.
Speaker 1:Top three, I'd say top three, top three defense. And we got to see that on display Monday night because they kept them in that game. And so I just I don't know, lee, it's deja vu, but it's also one of these things where I look at it and I say to myself you know, maybe it is an ownership thing, like maybe like something just needs to change, something's got to change.
Speaker 2:Because at some point it is the players.
Speaker 1:I mean, it is like Young Wanku's one of the players, but like it really ain't the players to your justice point yeah, they take care of the fans, but they're not.
Speaker 2:they're giving the fans nice things but they're not taking care of the fans. I liken it to the husband but do that, but they're giving the fans nice things, but they're not taking care of the fans. I liken it to the husband who does nice things for his wife but he never spends time with her, and all she wants is time. Hey, cheap beer, cheap food, great food selection, great bars, great bar selection.
Speaker 2:Good game days, man in general. Yeah, all of that stuff we appreciate, but we're here for the wins and you're not giving us the wins. And you keep telling us that you're doing all this nice stuff for us and I go, I hear you, but I just want the wins. And if you can't give me the wins this other night, stuff doesn't mean anything to me.
Speaker 1:Do you really love me? Do you want me? Is this even really your real phone number? These are the questions that we ask ourselves as Falcons fans year in and year out, not week in and week out. Year in and year out, and I in and week out, year in and year out, and I don't know if they love me anymore. I do everything I can on my end. I show up.
Speaker 2:I pay for my tickets, I pay for my PSL. I get my free gear. You know what? I don't even wear my free gear to the games.
Speaker 1:I wear it out, I wear fucking gear one way or another. At some point in time I bought something for me.
Speaker 2:But I'm saying the free gear that they give me. I wear it out in the community to represent the Falcons. I don't even wear it to the games.
Speaker 1:You wear it on a daily basis.
Speaker 2:I buy gear to wear to the games because I think it's corny when season ticket holders wear their season ticket holder gear to the game.
Speaker 1:By the way, that's corny as fuck. Well, I mean, I've never worn the gear they give us. Yeah, but exactly. It's corny but I've worn, you know that season, that first game, I wear that hat. That's a giveaway I've worn. You know. That season, that first game, I wear that hat.
Speaker 2:That's a giveaway.
Speaker 1:I still wear it to this day.
Speaker 2:But, nonetheless, I got my flags up. You can't even see it. I got my old black flags up above me. I got my white flags over here. You know what I'm saying. I support you guys, and all I'm asking for in return is a home playoff game every now and then.
Speaker 1:Feed me, feed me, I'm hungry.
Speaker 2:I'm not asking for a Super Bowl every year. I'm not asking for the playoffs every year. I'm just asking for consistent winning.
Speaker 1:I am hungry, you won't feed me. You don't make somebody that's hungry starve if you love them. No, I would never in my life tell my daughter if she's hungry you will not eat. I would never do that. You know why I eat Because I love her. I love my daughter. If my baby tells me she's hungry, guess what I'm going to say? What do you want? And as long as they're open, we're going to go get it.
Speaker 2:Bro, I'll give you a great story as we close this out. I called my daughter about an hour or so before the show. She calls me back right as I'm plugging in and getting ready to start. I'm like, hey, I got to go, I'm about to do my show. I'll call you back after the show. She goes daddy, I'm not going. I stay on the phone for five more minutes and we're going to have a longer phone call after the show. You know why.
Speaker 1:Because she wants to talk to you. Yeah, You're going to feed her the conversation and the attention Exactly Because you love her. You're not. You know, some hussy might want it and you'll be like no, we'll talk later. I got better things to do.
Speaker 2:Exactly. You know, I can send care packages, right, I can send her my money to make sure she has the things that she needs. But she just wants to talk to daddy and I'm not going to say, hey, lo, I'm helping take care of you, I'm doing this and that for you, whatever the case may be. No, I'm going to give her the attention that she needs because I love her and she loves you. Exactly, we love each other, so we take care of each other. So, falcons, we love you, but love's not enough. You got to show and prove.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's a give and take relationship and I feel like I've just been doing a whole lot of giving.
Speaker 2:I feel like I've been doing a whole lot of taking, if you catch my drift.
Speaker 1:Yes, but enough about the sorry fucking Falcons. Let's get into week one of the NFL season. Biggest takeaways from week one Lee.
Speaker 2:I was right on Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1:Say again no, I said okay. So that was your biggest takeaway Was that you were right on Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2:I mean, it's the first thing that came to my mind when you said it that was your biggest takeaway Was that you were right on Caleb Williams? I mean, it's the first thing that came to my mind when you said it. Okay, I'll tell you what. Let me be transparent with the viewers. When we go to Falcons games, I only see the Falcons for the 1 o'clock window After the game. The four o'clock window has already started. And yes, I watched Packers lines, but I was in a restaurant and I was on Marta. Then I was at Pierce's and I was in a car. So, like, I watched the game but I was not totally locked into the game, so I only watched three and a half. I watched two and two half games this week because I watched Falcons, obviously everybody watched Bills Ravens yeah, enough of Packers lines.
Speaker 2:I watched Bills Ravens and then I watched some of the Monday night game but I was recording Village Vets, so second half of the game I wasn't totally locked in, I just had it on the iPad as I was recording Village Vets. So second half of the game I wasn't totally locked in, I just had it on the iPad as I was recording.
Speaker 1:And I think everybody here should be able to respect everything that we're saying here because we're not going to sit here and lie and act like we watched the games. First of all, it's impossible for anyone to watch the games. All we can do is check highlights and box scores, just like everybody else, unless you were at games or maybe you weren't at your house and you were just constantly flipping through but that means that you didn't watch a game fully.
Speaker 2:Well, some people, because I used to do this. I used to go back, yeah, and I would go back and watch all of the games. I would watch the abbreviated version, when they take out all the huddling and the commercial breaks and you can get through a game in about an hour and I will sit up and watch every game that I didn't watch.
Speaker 1:Stephen A Smith does not do that and I'm not trying to compare to him, but there's just a lot of people that don't. But obviously, like anything else, if you've got your hands in a lot of different places, if you're a jack-of-all-tr trades, you can get quite a bit done. And one of the things I think that we can say, certainly with week one, was that there were a lot of surprises around the league, daniel Jones probably being the biggest admiration. Are we even surprised by the dolphins, even, by the way, now that we think of, now that we're talking about this game, yeah, even surprised, because, based on everything we were hearing anyways, it kind of just showed up on the field that day.
Speaker 2:I'm still surprised, because I didn't expect it.
Speaker 1:I didn't expect them to get blown out.
Speaker 2:I heard the talk, I said, okay, this is something to watch, but I also seen what they'd done before with those guys on the roster and a healthy tour, and I said you're going to have to show me that the sky is falling for me to believe it. Well, now I believe it.
Speaker 1:I think I'm with you there. I think we've got top five pick potential out of the Dolphins. I think that, and we spoke about this yesterday on the phone. But I think that you're looking at a situation where it's just not working. And I think when you look at a guy like Mike McDaniel, obviously former Falcons coach, certainly he's a part of the Shanahan-McVay tree and, yeah, they got off to a quick start literally, you know they were really good, they made the playoffs. They were in the playoffs two years ago too and he had quarterback problems that he still, you know, was making it do. But now he's had his quarterback and it just looks really, really bad.
Speaker 1:Tyreek Hill's got all the off-the-field stuff. It's time for them to blow this thing up. That's what I think. I think and I know that, and we were going to get to, I guess, our overreactions, but I might as well just at least start with this one here, just because we're talking about it. I don't think that's an overreaction. I think that the Dolphins are going to be a top five pick type team in the NFL. I'd stay, I sure as hell am not touching them in any bets they won't get touched in that manner, but they're garbage, they're garbage.
Speaker 2:Chris Greer has been the GM for nine years.
Speaker 1:I think it's safe to say that he won't see year 10. Yeah, as time's ran out, I don't think he'll see year nine and a half. Lee, that's how I'm willing to put my name on the line. I think that these guys are going to be gone before Halloween or at Halloween. They're not going to make it that far. I'm going to give them to Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1:I don't think they make it that far and I think that Tyreek Hill does, in fact, get traded because of his personal issues. Just in general, this is a guy that was voted the number one player in the NFL. Literally, he was voted the number one player in the NFL last year.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't think he's bad at football. All of a sudden.
Speaker 1:I think that they need to get as much as they can for him and get ready for this rebuild, because Miami will still be a place where, if you get the right people there, you can get people that will come down there, not just because of the state income tax, but it's Miami man, yeah, so that won't be hard.
Speaker 2:You know what?
Speaker 1:Wayne Isaac is not the owner. Who's the owner now?
Speaker 2:The Michigan guy Ross. Yeah, Steven Ross.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but here's the one thing about Miami that makes it hard for them. The NFL is a married league. Explain that for anyone that doesn't know what you mean.
Speaker 2:So you see a lot in the nba where the large markets win. But if you notice, even though miami's had success, they don't bring in a lot of older free agents. They develop their talent, the majority of their talent, they develop and they may make a move here or there, like Like LeBron them coming. That was a little bit different. The Jimmy Butler trade. He was a distressed asset. You see it with Atlanta too. You don't see a lot of big free agents coming to Atlanta to play for the Hawks, and the NBA is a single league.
Speaker 2:These guys like the big markets, where in the NFL you see a lot of smaller markets thrive, more so because the demographics of the NFL are different. But also you have more married. People like these guys are 22, 21, 22, 23 when they start their professional lives, as opposed to the NBA where they're like 1920. And so some of these guys have had serious girlfriends from high school or serious girlfriends from college, and then they go to the league, they move them to their cities, they get married. It's okay to be in Kansas City when you're married because there's enough bars, lounges, steakhouses and stuff that you can go to where it's lit.
Speaker 1:And you're even more the toast of the town too. For what it's worth, because they're the only show in town.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but then you talk about Miami. Wives don't want to move to Miami.
Speaker 1:So you think Ballers is a bullshit show?
Speaker 2:I look at sports. I look at sports and I look at where we have success at. And I'll tell you, the party cities have not been successful for sports teams. Like, yeah, the Vegas Aces are good, but chicks are a little bit different. You know what I mean? Yeah, like, but the Raiders aren't good. Raiders haven't been good in Vegas.
Speaker 1:They had the Rich Masachi season.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they had the Rich Masachi season.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they had the Rich Masachi season, that was the most tumultuous season they had, and they were able to somehow get there and could have beat the Bengals too, by the way.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they've been terrible since you know, we see what Atlanta has been. When we've been good, it's been homegrown talent. We don't get big free agents very often Miami, it's the same thing. We always have to trade for ours. Yeah, I mean even look at New Orleans, you know what I'm saying. Like New Orleans is a party city, even though it's not like a lit party city, because it's New Orleans.
Speaker 1:You know this makes this a better question who does get the free agents in the NFL right? Because I guess some people could say Philly to a degree, but like Dallas signs nobody. So that's one. But that's their structure.
Speaker 2:Organizationally they don't sign people like that.
Speaker 1:Houston's a good example of a city that signs people. Yeah, but they're not good. They sign and trade for people. I guess maybe the Rams and Chargers.
Speaker 2:But if you think about the NFL, the way that it's set up and the way that contracts are structured, is less of a free agency league. You have your average players in free agency and you have your rare star players in free agency, but good players in their prime don't hit free agency in the NFL because they have so much more control, because they don't have guaranteed contracts.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:So if you're really good and you fit, you don't ever hit the market Right. So if you're really good and you fit, you don't ever hit the market Right. Which is why Kirk Cousins has made so much money because he's the one quarterback that's good enough to demand top dollar but not great enough to to to have somebody fall in love with him. He's a great. He's a great bar girlfriend. He's a great bar girlfriend. You know, you know. You know the girl that that, like you, don't compare cousins to a bar girlfriend.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know the girl you don't really take seriously, but she's a good hang and you like to hang out with her, go out with her. It's fun and stuff.
Speaker 1:And man it's just making your work wife at that point? Yeah, but like but.
Speaker 2:Just making your work wife at that point, yeah, but she could never be your actual wife. You're not going to have a kid with her, you're not going to totally invest in her like that. That's Kirk Cousins, your bar girlfriend. She gets the girlfriend treatment. She can be your plus one to parties. You take her out, you take her to games. She gets to do all the cool stuff.
Speaker 1:But she's not moving it. We are getting way far off topic of around the league here. Let's get back.
Speaker 2:Let's get to the game of the year.
Speaker 1:We're going to say that last, because that's its own topic. I know we just did Colts-Dolphins. We've already done the Falcons game. How about that first game, cowboys-eagles? Because we haven't even spoke about how that former damn good dog, jalen Carter, spits on Dak Prescott before the game starts. And close your eyes and hide your ears if you bet Eagles spread, but that definitely cost you that more than anything.
Speaker 1:Because their best defensive player wasn't on the field for the Eagles after they already just lost five starters, their offensive coordinator and Dallas. Honestly, we got to give Brian Schottenheimer some credit. They looked a lot better than I think a lot of people thought they were going to look.
Speaker 2:Shoddy called a hell of a game. He called a winning game.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they looked a lot better than a lot of people thought. Obviously, jalen Carter, I think he got fined. It was about 50. It was 50-plus thousand and obviously they counted that as a one-game suspension, which good on the NFL, because that was the way to handle it. He missed the entire game, so that's fair.
Speaker 2:I want to commend the NFL for what they did. You know, when it happened I was like suspend him, find him, make an example out of him, because this behavior is unacceptable. The game hasn't started. But then, you know, we wait around, we wait around, we get more clips. We see Dak spit in his direction. They're talking noise, they get face-to-face.
Speaker 2:But you know what? I was watching Good Morning Football today and by watching it it was on the TV with the volume down and I saw a different. I saw that from behind Jalen Carter, where Dak is talking to him. He spits in his direction, he sizes him up, he starts shaking his head and talking and then walks forward. I go all that stuff. Dak said after the game that he was just spitting. Nah, that was aggression. And although I'm anti-spitting in any circumstance, like you know, we talked about it the night of I would have been okay with Jalen Carter responding with Dak spitting at him, because that sets the line Like once you spit at me, all gloves off. It's just like if you're white and you call me the n-word, however, I respond to you outside of killing you, obviously.
Speaker 1:White or anything, yeah, non-black. If a nigga calls me a nigga, I'm offended by that too, if I don't know you no. I don't, I'm just saying you got to think about it in a certain way. That's another story.
Speaker 2:But point being is there are certain lines of disrespect that open the door For, for however he responds, you've created an environment for that response. I'm not saying that they should respond that way, I'm not saying it's right to respond that way, but if I walk up to you and say, hey, bitch ass nigga, and you punch me in my mouth or you spit in my face, you kick me in my nuts, you shoot me, I've opened myself up for that type of reaction because of my action. So after seeing that, I'm happy that they just gave find them a game, check, kicked him out the game, kept it moving and I hope and wish that Dallas internally find Dak for provoking it, because, hey, as the leader of this team, I mean I'm saying me, me personally, I don't like it.
Speaker 1:It'd be very little for him to be given, not to count these guys' money. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not, it is a drop in the bucket.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I just want to give him a little headache. I ain't trying to give him a migraine. I ain a drop in the bucket, but yeah, yeah, no, I, I just want to give him a little headache. I ain't trying to give him a migraine, I ain't trying to hurt his hamstring, just give him a little headache. It'll be gone in two minutes. You know what I'm saying, yeah, but but hey, one thing here. Uh, parley p, what are your thoughts on his lineman not stepping up while he's face to face with his lineman and kind of letting him just part the red seas and do that because he's the quarterback? He's face-to-face with his linemen and kind of letting him just part the Red Seas and do that Because he's the quarterback. He's the corporate guy. That's usually not the role quarterbacks play or what you expect your quarterback to do.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm not trying to be funny they're missing their Zach Martin, their Tyron Smith. These were the guys that were the stalwarts for that O-line for when the Cowboys were winning a lot of games. So maybe it's just the fact that Dak's the leader Now the O-linemen should still be there, like be like what you gonna do, bro, like you know, it should be still something along those lines, but there isn't truly a leader on that offensive line like they have had in the past.
Speaker 2:For what it's worth, Even CD you know what I'm saying or your tight end, but it might have went so quickly to where nobody really I mean, yeah, think about it.
Speaker 1:The ball just kicked off. There was a guy that got injured.
Speaker 2:Nah, but you hear him talking Like everybody's in the huddle, Especially like the linemen. They were right there, they're in front of Dak, so they hear it before Dak. Does you know what I mean? So I just found it odd that the team wasn't there rallying for their quarterback. I just, I'm not saying it's anything.
Speaker 1:No, for sure, For sure, and it might not be, but I tell you what the Chiefs being 0-1, is that anything? Does that mean something to you? What do you think of that game that we got to watch, the first ever broadcast on YouTube?
Speaker 2:Well, they lost. I didn't watch the game, man, I was watching high school football on Friday. Really, yeah, bro.
Speaker 1:Were you at.
Speaker 2:Cass.
Speaker 1:What were you doing?
Speaker 2:No, I was at Cartersville. Cartersville played against Calhoun. That's a big game. Exactly Calhoun defending state champions.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Cartersville. I think they got put out in the third round. A couple of a few D1 prospects out there on the field Game ended up being 35-38, cartersville won. It was a hell of a game.
Speaker 1:Big game. Well then, I'll give you a little bit of analysis from what I thought. I'd like the idea of the NFL putting on a free show on YouTube, because it was on the YouTube stream so any and everybody could watch it. You didn't matter if you had YouTube TV or whatever. So I like that. They were kind of overselling the YouTube stars, but I get it. It's the first YouTube NFL game, so Mr Beast was a big part of it. I show speed. He's kind of been going on what seems like a world tour a little bit. I've just been seeing a lot of him in a lot of places. But you know, they kind of put their people into the pot with that. But as far as the game went, I've got breaking news.
Speaker 2:What's that we can cover it later. Chicago's guide to listen to trade offers for injuries after split locker room.
Speaker 1:We'll get to it as soon as we get to the WNBA, because we are going to touch on the WNBA guys. But Chiefs, chargers overall the Chargers look like they could be the class of that division after this week in reality. Now again, overreaction maybe. I think it might be, because at the end of the day, the Chiefs are the Chiefs, but the Chiefs got the Eagles this weekend.
Speaker 1:I don't know they're going to have Jalen Carter this week and the Chiefs didn't look very good. They didn't look very good. They look like they're lacking explosion, like explosion, just period. Which is why I think, tyreek Hill if Andy Reid's smart, they drop the 0-2, I would not be surprised if they make a trade for Tyreek Hill and they give up a third-round pick and the Dolphins say take him. I really would not be surprised by this. But they lack explosion.
Speaker 1:Travis Kelsey yeah, he caught a big touchdown pass but, like I don't know, I was expecting him to come out and play like it was going to be his last season and he just left. It was a lot left to be desired from him and Hollywood Brown stepped up. He had 10 catches, a hundred yards, but because he kind of had to, xavier Worthy goes down with the shoulder injury. We have no idea how long he's going to be out. It's fascinating to me because we've been kind of on this show for the past few years, kind of predicting when the Chiefs are going to have this 10 and 7 year where they get in as a six or seven and then we see what type of resolve they really have.
Speaker 1:This seems like this could be the year, because obviously, you know, a lot of people think Denver's got the best defense. They certainly have one of the best top three play callers in the league. The Chargers are hungry. They're well coached. Now, pete Carroll is, you know, pete, and it's just one of those things where I think the Chargers, they played a complete football game. I thought that they did well on all units special teams, defense and offense. Justin Herbert looked like what Jim Harbaugh said on Rich Eisen I have to make him an MVP. That's exactly what he looked like.
Speaker 2:He should have read that. Yeah, I had him on my bench in one of my other fantasy leagues and I saw some highlights of the game. I'll just tell you just a bigger picture takeaway from the entire thing as we wrap up these games and get into the game of the week. Is that losing to the Chargers week one in Brazil with no Rashawn? Slater says something.
Speaker 1:Man and their offensive line looked great. He had plenty of time to throw.
Speaker 2:And I'm not saying that this is the year, but, like you said, we've been predicting this Chiefs thing and it's not, and it's not we're not haters.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're not haters. It's not counterculture, it is just. You're starting to see certain things fall apart and you haven't seen them perform in these different situations and now, bro, it's burnout. Y'all are playing more games than everybody every year. That's going gonna take a toll on you at some point and players are gonna want to make more money this, that and the third and the message can get stale because you're bringing the same group back, not bringing in new blood, it's just, and the blood you lose are your better players, because they can go get money and you got to draft guys and bring it. It's's a lot of things to make a dynasty sustain and what we often forget about with these great dynasties when we talk about what Bill and Tom did. They had a lot of dormant years where they were playoff teams but they weren't Super Bowl contenders and they weren't getting there and it was okay. I just think that because Patrick did so much so fast with social media, as opposed to when Tom Brady did it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Patrick Mahomes was also like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning at the same time with Aaron Rogers. Style of player, For sure, you put more into it. But then you add the social media aspect of it. You add the first take aspect of it. So now we're talking about him as the GOAT all the time and that's not real sports life. But we're pressed to get. We got to push, yeah yeah, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:I just wanted to hit just a few quick hits while just real quick Bengals look terrible.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no. But before you hit those quick hits like I wasn't done, I had one more thing on this game.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:We've got to get rid of the Brazil game. It's got to go Like a Friday night football game. Bro. Some of us want to go watch football in person. Don't put us in that position. And why are we playing in Brazil? We're not even playing on a real football field. There were issues with the playing surface last year.
Speaker 2:I understand growth, I understand scaling, I understand you have the demand and all of that stuff. But NFL I know you're a venture capital firm, but your main product is still art. It is not just science. It takes real people to do this, to make it entertaining, yeah, and it takes real strategy and skill to get the top tier people who are involved in this game that make it entertaining and have the desire to want to be involved in this game, that make it entertaining and to have the desire to want to be involved in football.
Speaker 2:So don't get caught up in all the, the hot dogs, the beer, the, the nice looking stadium and forget about the product on the field and having a team having to go to brazil, eat shitty food, not be able to leave the hotel, play on a terrible playing surface, then have to fly all the way back to America, reacclimate and then get ready to play a game the next week. That's bullshit and that is weakening the product. Now you can play other bullshit games that we don't care about. You got 30 seconds. We got to get to a game of the week. Of course.
Speaker 1:But I agree with you, by the way. Just quick questions More or less about the Bengals or the Browns? 141 yards from the Bengals one-point win Doesn't cover for the six-pack. More about the Bengals, less about the Browns. Less about the Bengals, more about the Browns.
Speaker 2:The Bengals are who we thought they were. The Browns less about the Bengals, more about the Browns. The Bengals are who we thought they were. The Browns are who they've been and we just didn't want to believe it, because they're the Browns. Kevin Stefanski has been running a great program over there. Despite quarterback, despite talent on the roster, he's running a great operation over there. The Bengals have a good roster. They're not a good operation and you know what the good operation usually is going to do well against the good talent. But at the end of the day, you can't beat good talent. Like, if you don't have the talent, you can't beat the talent.
Speaker 1:More impressed with the Air Riders or more impressed with the Jets offense.
Speaker 2:More impressed with Aaron Rodgers or more impressed with the Jets offense? More impressed with the Jets offense because I didn't believe that Aaron Rodgers was as cooked as we wanted to make him.
Speaker 1:Okay, I can agree with that. I was beating the drum for you. I'm like, hey look, I promise you he's not that bad. I just promised you he was on the Jets, but maybe the Jets are turning over a new leaf. I mean, we'll get to see if they get Buffalo this week and Buffalo, you know, did give up 40 points and we will get to them right after this one. Last question Lions-Packers, which obviously we did get to watch a little bit of. Yeah, are you beating the drum that everybody else is doing in media period and saying the Packers might be the best team in the NFL this year?
Speaker 2:I'm not going to call them the best team in the NFL, but I was kind of high on the Packers through my offseason research. I believe in the Packers as an organization and when you throw, I mean just organization, top to bottom.
Speaker 1:Yeah top to bottom.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the guys that clean up the bathrooms do a phenomenal job.
Speaker 1:I mean just organization. Yeah, top to bottom. Yeah, the guys that clean up the bathrooms do a phenomenal job, I mean yeah.
Speaker 2:And when you get Micah Parsons and you still had good interior line play after giving up your Pro Bowl interior D lineman, who's you know, 30, 31.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And Micah isn't even Micah yet. He had a bad back and new defense and no training camp. I don't think the pundits are overreacting, but I don't agree. I won't. We have the same. I feel the same way they do, but for different reasons.
Speaker 1:Different motivations. That's fair. Let's get to it then.
Speaker 2:I didn't even bring it up in my notes about how I felt about the Packers. That's my point. I feel that way, but I'm not going to put it out there because that's the hot thing to say.
Speaker 1:For sure. Let's get to it then. Game of the week, but certainly maybe even game of the year already. How blessed are we as football fans to be able to get so much in week one every year? Every year we get a game and we're like, wow, and it's usually Lamar. Well, it certainly was last year, because I think we can all argue that was probably the best game of the year. Last year Falcons-Bucks. A lot of people got underrated because it was a Thursday night. That game was great too, being there and Matt and all that was great. But that was a great game. If you're a fan of ball, that game was great too. But everybody would argue, certainly, that the Chiefs-Ravens was the top game last year. Then we get a repeat performance, this time on Sunday night football instead of Thursday. But we still got Chris and Mike Tirico to call the game for the last home opener at Orchard Park.
Speaker 2:How many pairs of underwear do you think Chris had in the booth with him?
Speaker 1:Man, let me tell you, chris' dressing room he's got. You know, when somebody's a gooner, they've got a lot of the point, a lot of different stuff around them. Chris has his own dressing room. I don't think he might not even wear the underwear at that point because he's got plenty of towels, you know. So every time they got a commercial break, every time there's a quarter break, a halftime break or whatever, he goes in there he cleans himself up and he gets ready to call some more football. But I mean, what a game, what a game.
Speaker 1:What a game it was one of those things where you watch the game and you don't stop watching. There are people in Buffalo that clearly did, but you don't stop watching because you're like well, gosh, it's still only a two-score game, all it takes is one score and then the rest kind of can figure itself out from there for anything. And if it was Derrick Henry Fung with that boss said, oh no, I said he's having literally all the best opening nights and it's just like I just don't see this ending. Well, because again it's deja vu. This time it's with those birds and not ours. And you see, you know, you know something similar, something we've seen before.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, I hated the outcome of this game because of the media narratives that I was concerned about and thankfully the game was played in a way that we didn't blame Lamar, Because I didn't want Lamar to be blamed because this quarterback stuff. You know, I say Lamar is Angel Reese and Josh Allen is Kaitlin Clark, you know.
Speaker 1:That is. That's a terrible comparison that I'm going to call oh, it's not. Maybe from a media perspective, yes.
Speaker 2:I'm not talking about them as talents, by no means. I'm only talking about the support behind them and the narratives they get, that that that get assigned to them and the way that the people speak for them. That that's all Okay. Yeah, no, angel Reese is nowhere near an MVP. Okay.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, you cleaned that up. You cleaned it up, oh yeah. Just like Chris did after the first quarter Go ahead, but thankfully the attention was given to Harbaugh.
Speaker 2:But here I'm going to give John Harbaugh some bail, because in the last five years he also has the most blowout wins and they get up early and it's hard to maintain leads in games.
Speaker 2:You're talking about different levels of motivation. You're talking about changing your offensive strategy, because you're now trying to kill clock and move the ball and that can put you in third and nine, third and obvious passing. You know what I mean. It's a difficult place to play from and you don't get there without winning a lot. It's hard, it's much harder to maintain a big lead against a good team than it is to go back and forth or be in the game, because you're not changing your game plan as much and everybody is on their P's and Q's the entire game, because every move matters when you're up 25 to 40, man, we done over with dog, yeah. So I just want to make sure that's a part of it, because think about yourself on your job. How do you work when you're working on timeline and you know you have to meet a deadline, versus when you're just going in and just doing the daily routine?
Speaker 2:Or you're working towards a deadline and you get ahead. You're like oh shit, I knocked out a week's worth of work in a day and I only got another week's worth of work left, and I got this whole week to get it done, which means I can get this shit done. You start lollygagging and bullshitting.
Speaker 1:You do, and I think that a lot of people work better under pressure because you know that you have to get it done right, exactly, and especially in the nfl. It's just a really common theme and that's exactly why people watch the games right, because it really isn't over until the clock is triple zero. Uh, check our bio out, guys. But anyways, I like bring that up because it's so true, it's, it's, it's true, it's true in any sport and that's exactly why we watch. Uh, anything can happen, anything can happen.
Speaker 2:And you know, josh.
Speaker 1:Allen just proved it. But when you have two elite offenses like that and I think that this is why Josh Allen to to your Caitlin Clark, angel Reese comparison, why Josh Allen gets so much love, is because he doesn't have Derrick Henry, james Cook's good, but he's not Derrick Henry, zay Flowers, zay Flowers, mark Andrews no, no no, no, that's not why he gets the love. Stop, stop, are you saying it's just because he's white, literally.
Speaker 2:In the comparison that I'm making, I'm speaking to people's biases in how they push what they want to push. Okay, the supporting cast have nothing to do with. It has nothing to do with play on the field. It is simply the way that there is a black versus white media narrative. That works in sports really well, and I could have said bird and magic. That probably would have been better for you because you're talking about two top end players, but it's the same. It's the same template. I just use Caitlin and Angel because it's the more recent version, more popular version of it. So, before you start trying to provide some analysis to it, there is no sports analysis that goes with this. It's culturally driven.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:You mean?
Speaker 1:it's strictly for culture.
Speaker 2:It's about what I like, what's strictly for culture. Oh, it's about what I like, what I relate to, what I will this, what will I, what I will dismiss because I like this person more, and what would I will, what I will, uh, allow because I like my guy, or what I won't allow for this other person because I don't like that person. It is not a it's not, it is not a football argument. So I don't even want you to try to make a football argument for it here, because we wouldn't have that type of conversation. I would never say that Josh Allen is heralded as a top quarterback in the league simply because he's white.
Speaker 2:No, no, no. I am saying that in the way that he's covered and the way that he's defended by the people who choose to cover him and defend him in that way is similar, just like the people who are pro Lamar, for whatever reasons, tend to overlook certain Lamar things and then they will take it away from Josh Allen simply because they are trying to push their guy, their narrative. That's what that is. It's not a football thing. Okay, that's fair, that's what that is.
Speaker 1:It's not a football thing. Okay, that's fair. Well, regardless, I think that after week one, Josh Allen appears to be a serious contender to win the MVP again. But Lamar played great. I thought the Ravens looked good. I don't think that there's anything to worry about. I don't think that they are a team on one of these topics that we've got here. I don't think that they're in panic mode at all.
Speaker 2:No, but you know who is in panic mode who? I'm reading the script. We got to do panic mode quick if you want to do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure we're not going to have to follow the timeline there. But I don't think that the Ravens are not one of those teams that are in panic mode and we can't overreact to them blowing that lead. They did it last year. They still ended up getting where they got. They lost to the bills and the playoffs. I think that we might be getting ready. I think that that's going to be our afc championship, but um, who do you have in panic mode?
Speaker 2:oh, the dolphins 100 I mean they're on 10 I mean they are in panic mode.
Speaker 1:I think that I, if I have to give it a 1 through 10, the Falcons are about at a 6.
Speaker 1:I think that we're in panic mode because of who we play this week and how. If you go 0-2, you literally have the toughest part of your schedule coming up. You're at Carolina, which is a game that you should win, because Carolina still sucks. That's the good thing. They still suck. They're not the team you faced at last week. But then you get the Commanders and then you get the Bills. They need to win that game. That game's going to be kind of important. It's going to be important because if you lose that game and then, let's say you beat Carolina, you still got the Commanders coming in and then you get the Bills next. It doesn't look good from what I. I mean, the defense didn't look bad, but you're gonna have to score points against those two teams.
Speaker 1:So if the offense ain't clicking and the play calling is the same. We're in panic mode right now that's why that game was so important. You have to beat that team that you beat twice last year with your other quarterback. That's sitting on the bench like you gotta win've got to win that game.
Speaker 2:So you got the Falcons in panic mode after losing a tight game to a division rival.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do. I do because of the way it happened, because Tampa didn't even play that well, like they didn't really play that well.
Speaker 2:Give the Falcons credit for that. I do. I do, but I'm just saying it was a close game A call here, a call there, a play here, a play there. We could have won that game. I don't think we're in panic mode. You want to know who I think's in panic mode.
Speaker 1:I'm saying we're at six on the panic meter.
Speaker 2:You want to know who I think's in panic mode. Who's that?
Speaker 1:Ryan Pulse. You know he is because of the situation. He's in the quarterback and the coach are safe, so he's the only, but he's not an extension hey, I think ryan pose is in panic mode because I don't think the quarterback's safe. I don't think the quarterback's the guy and I think he'll be Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 2:Let me, let me, let me, let me tell you Jesus, the the coach didn't necessarily choose the quarterback. He chose the team. He chose maybe the potential of the quarterback, but he did not draft Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams struggled last year he came out hot doing great when he was on script Amazing 10 for 10. Love it. But then he turned back into Caleb Williams.
Speaker 1:That's correct.
Speaker 2:Caleb Williams. He's always been, because you remember his Heisman year at USC. I told you I didn't believe in it. I said he cannot ball on time on target in rhythm. He said he cannot put the ball on time on target in rhythm. He does not do that. So if Brian Pohl's more on, because you're saying that they'll move on or that they'll certainly bring in a veteran to compete with him.
Speaker 1:Whether that be a Kirk Cousins or something next year, we don't know. We'll see. But it sounds like you're saying that Caleb Williams is in panic mode too. Where would you place that on a one to 10? Him and Pulse If you gave it one to 10.
Speaker 2:I think Pulse is sitting at a nice seven and, knowing it can jump to 10 in two weeks, I think Caleb Williams won't be in panic mode because he I don't think he's going to realize unless, unless Ben Johnson starts going public, I don't think he's going to realize that he can be on the move too and it's unprecedented, it doesn't normally happen and he may get polls, may be out the door at the end of this year Again. He just got the extension that that's very common in the NFL. Hey, we'll give you a nice extension, then we get rid of you here later, right. And then Caleb, it's an exit package, exactly. Then Caleb might get through year three, and then they don't pick up that fifth-year option, they don't offer an extension. It's like, hey, play out your fourth year.
Speaker 1:He's about a, two, three really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it can jump really high because I saw a report that players prefer Tyson Bajent. This was before the game. They're not going to bench him.
Speaker 1:So that won't be. He won't get the same treatment that Bryce Young got.
Speaker 2:No, no, no.
Speaker 1:But I'm just saying Bryce Young got benched in his second year.
Speaker 2:They're not going to bench Caleb Williams. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I got you. I didn't say he was going to get benched. You're not letting me conclude. I am going to cook, cook, cook, cook.
Speaker 2:You know him, you'll be like my English teacher over here oh my goodness. But no, I don't think he is going to run the risk of losing his job this year. But when you hear the Bajan stuff, you hear it come out. It shouldn't come out. Then you see some of the frustration that his coach had with him throughout. You see the differences between him and Jared Goff, the quarterback that the coach is more comfortable with. You start to think about some of the best, most brilliant offensive minds. They usually want quarterbacks who do exactly what they want them to do, because their system is is is is better than the quarterback's talent. Right, ok, I think that there are going to be some some clashes stylistically between Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams. If Caleb Williams does not learn how to throw the ball from the pocket where he needs to, when he needs to, and until he can prove that consistently, caleb doesn't do it. In year three we're looking for a new quarterback. That's fair. The polls will be the first one gone.
Speaker 1:Caleb doesn't do it in year three. We're looking for a new quarterback. That's fair. That's fair. I've only got one more that I wanted to get to, just because. You got to get to it without an explanation.
Speaker 2:That's going to be tough to do. Look at the clock. Where are we at on the time?
Speaker 1:Let's not overreact to Daniel Jones. Now. Maybe Daniel Jones just really quickly. Maybe Daniel Jones is the next Sam Donald, the next Baker Mayfield, the next Geno Smith? Maybe that is going to be his lane. But let's not overreact to a performance against a Dolphins team that I think a lot of people think is going to be one of the worst in the league.
Speaker 2:Go ahead offense team that I think a lot of people think is going to be one of the worst in the league. Go ahead. Well, should we overreact to Ryan Clark, putting Peter Schrager in his place and then the collective sports media, then putting Ryan Clark in his place.
Speaker 1:How quickly can you pull it up? Because I didn't even see it. To be completely honest, when you put it on there. I was like, well, what did he say? And I knew it wasn't about RC's tirade on how Brady, manning and Breeze weren't generational quarterbacks. I know it doesn't have to do with that right.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, it was about CeeDee Lamb and AJ Brown in their game. Then pretty much Peter Schrager was saying that.
Speaker 1:I should have did better homework but I, literally when I saw it, I was like what are you talking about?
Speaker 2:Okay, here we go. They call it on-air meltdown.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Are you feeling? Okay? You look at AJ Brown, which is this number one wide receiver who got one target all night, and then you got cd lamb. But that's the when was the one.
Speaker 1:That's the target. But I'm saying when was the one? I'm saying you could have it both ways.
Speaker 2:Four seconds left in the game on second and it was the one target he runs the out.
Speaker 1:You wake up this morning brown has had a better day than cd lamb, you know what you wake up saying no, aj brown, aj Brown's team is 1-0.
Speaker 2:Of course, I get it, but the thing is this, though and we shouldn't do this on TV here you go.
Speaker 1:He loves to do that, I think this is rude.
Speaker 2:That's the non-player. Oh stop, no, ceedee Lamb is. Let me tell you why I'm not saying I'm not looking at fantasy football. Ryan, I'm not. Don't, don't, don't belittle me like that. I could come in and say as three, all right, let me respond to this real quick and I'll let you go. Ryan clark was valid in what he said. I'm not a the big ryan clark fan. I agree with what he said. Now, could he have not done all the dramatics on the front end? Could he have said, hey, from a player's AJ Brown's want to know from a player's perspective. Hey, I had a good night. My stats weren't there, but we're here to win games and that's exactly what we did. We won the game. I was available for my team. I ran my routes. I pulled coverage this way. It allowed Shaquille to do this. I blocked, I pulled coverage this way it allowed to do this. I block.
Speaker 1:it allowed Jalen Hurts to do that and, more importantly, I got no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, but, but, but CD lamb.
Speaker 2:Cd lamb had 10 catches for 107 yards on the stat sheet, had drops. He had a drop in the first half. He had the big drop. Uh, he had the two big drops in the fourth quarter that were obvious. You know what I mean. And and and those were plays. One probably was a touchdown, one get some a first down, get some close down there to go make a play to possibly win the game.
Speaker 2:So when you're not talking about individual performance just for and it's not about fantasy, peter schrager, it's about you want to put up big stats in order to help your team win games. Now, on a professional level, you want to put up big stats so you can make money, because this is your profession. But we're looking at playing sports and you're not and you're only concerned about your team winning. You want to be the best version of yourself in order to help your team and, yes, in a vacuum. Ceedee Lamb had a better game than AJ Brown. Ceedee Lamb may have won more than AJ Brown. Aj Brown may not have been getting open. I don't know. Didn't watch the film. I watched the game. But AJ Brown won the game and, like Herm Edwards say, you play to win the game, and then for Peter Schrager just to be so shocked and appalled like oh, oh, whoa, whoa, we don't even need to go there. Yes, we do. That's why we're here, that's why we have players and media.
Speaker 2:People talk about sports for sports fans, because sometimes the media has a perspective. It's very valid. The player has a perspective Very valid. Both perspectives need to come together and clash. And for y'all to get paid the hundreds of thousands and millions you get paid to talk about this stuff and research this and do what you do, y'all have to come together and clash. This was a great thing.
Speaker 2:But all you fucking square media groupies I love y'all, I'm one of y'all too but that are coming out here to defend Peter Schrager hey, be confident in who you are, be confident in being square media. Parley Pete, we're square media. We're being square media. Parlay p I'm. We're square media, we're alternative square media, but nonetheless, we are square media and if we're having a conversation with a player on certain things, we will defer to that player.
Speaker 2:But just because somebody played the game does not mean they understand the full context of the game, and even explaining the game to a fan in the best way they can talk ball. But the reason why these media personalities who did not play the game and cover the game get paid millions of dollars to cover the game, because the people who watch the game, who buy your jerseys, who show up, who buy the hot dogs, who buy the PSLs, who throw the green billboards on the field, that we don't see, all the people that help y'all get paid and watch the games. Listen to these people because they make you, they make what you do. That's super complex, simple for them who don't understand.
Speaker 1:Yeah, for sure. Well, because, again, not everybody has time to watch every game, and even the nationally televised games like the season opener. Now, I'm sure a lot of people did, but I might be a huge football fan and I might work at 8 o'clock. So if I work in retail, I work at McDonald's Hell, I have my own company. Maybe I'm still working at 8 o'clock and I didn't get to watch the games.
Speaker 1:The guys on TV don't watch the games, I know, but they are still the outlet to fans, because that is the sports network. That is the clip that gets cut up and put on social media. Or just in general, anywhere like, anywhere, like are you just, mike, just so having to be eating your breakfast? Or just in general, anywhere Like. I can hear myself, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Oh oh, I pressed the wrong button. I thought I had it muted. My bad, I was trying to. I was doing something.
Speaker 1:OK, anyways, point being, I agree with you. I don't think that where RC was going with it. But you're right, he could have presented it a little bit better and that's a him problem, you know, that's him in the media.
Speaker 1:But like I agree overall, I don't think that there should be any beef or anyone come and be like RC was wrong, ryan Schrader was right in terms of the way that they approach, talking about and being critical or praising any type of player. I don't think that that should be the case, but at the same time, you know from a player's perspective, that is correct, it's, it is the absolute right way to look at a game. Nobody looks at a game when the team wins because it's, it's, it's, it's we've seen it we's greater than I, right?
Speaker 1:yeah, you know, there is no I in team like these are. That's a cliche, that that you hear anyone that's played any type of sport, whether it's peewee up to pros, because it's true and that's true with any organization. There is no one person unless andy reed and patrick mahomes getting to his bed and he says I've got, you got to get him out of here, or I'm out of here because then it does turn into I only in those situations, but those are few and far between. You know, if mike wanted phil gone phil's ass would have been gone.
Speaker 1:So and look actually not to get into michael jordan, but just real quick, mike would have came back. I mean, he said it in the last dance, he would have came back. They didn't want him. But that's mike not even putting himself first before the team. That's a that is a team greater than I. That's an example of somebody doing it. And I I'm not here to praise Michael Jordan. I know we're not going to get into LeBron man, no.
Speaker 2:I wasn't. You said Michael Jordan, not Kobe. If you would have brought up Kobe, totally different. I brought up Kobe first on the show. I'm not going to beat you up, bro. I brought up Kobe and Matt Ryan, you brought up neither and you haven't responded to anything about either of them in this show. So no, you're good, Keep cooking, King.
Speaker 1:But the truth is that's an example of somebody putting the team because he said no, this is our unit, this is the way it's going to be. It's either all of us, all for one, one for all, literally. And so I love that idea and I think that it gets exemplified even in a situation like that. You know, I'm sure aj brown yeah, I'm sure he wish he had more targets. He just got his bag anyways. But, like, certainly he wants to continue to be productive while helping the team. But just because it doesn't show up in the stat line doesn't mean that he wasn't productive and it doesn't mean that he didn't help the team. But that's what it took to get the w that day. They got the W. That's the most important thing. They're on the, not Cincinnati, they're on the Kansas.
Speaker 2:City hey, but let me tell you two things right. This conversation happens because of producers and square media types that come up with the topics. So then you juxtapose these two individuals against each other and try to say who had the better game when they were asked to do different things. They're on different teams and the games were totally different and I understand why you put them, the two, together, because one didn't really show up, won the game, show up in the stat sheet. Another guy shows up in the stat sheet but had big drops and lost the game. That's great, that's easy TV talk.
Speaker 2:But, more importantly, I think Ryan Clark is getting his heat because he's elevating himself in this media game. He's Draymond New Media. People don't look at him that way, but he's Draymond new media Right and the square media. They're afraid of the athletes and media. And as Ryan Clark continues to ascend, you know he has his roles on ESPN he was doing inside NFL. He was. I mean, he has the pivot and that's his and that's where he can really show his value and demand more money. Because a lot of your square media types, even the great ones, have always been employees and didn't start their own platforms, because they did it the old school way, right? Peter Schrager is one of the guys. Everybody loves Schrager, you know he's. He's everywhere. He's on Fox, he's on ES, he's on ESPN, he's on NFL Network. He's in the one big company that owns all of these companies. He's one of those guys and I think they just are trying to defend their position.
Speaker 2:Get off my lawn and I'm not going to make it racial, it isn't but I do think there's a racial component that goes into all of this, even with the way that some people respond to it or how they even receive what Ryan Clark said. I'm not saying that the people who respond to support Peter Schrager are racist or pro white, anti-black by no means. But when a black player turned media or pro-white, anti-black, by no means. But when a black player turned media guy talks to the white media guy and tells him why he doesn't know what he's talking about, that can sit in a weird way for some people, just like there are some black people who watch that and it's like hell.
Speaker 2:Yeah, tell his white ass to shut up. He don't know what the hell he talk about. He ain't never played shit that, but that's. You know, that's the reality, the reality that we live in that they can't talk about on espn and we probably shouldn't talk about if we want sponsorship deals, but it's the reality of it. You know what I mean yeah, yeah, and and and.
Speaker 1:The reality of it is is that if we did one sponsorship and talked about it, you know you let one of those guys talk to somebody else hell hennessy will put you on.
Speaker 1:You know it'll be something like that. It's not a racial thing. I'm just telling you. That's what the response would be. But but hey, it appeals to your demographic Absolutely, and we can close this. But all in all, I didn't think that RC was out of line Me neither he could have presented it better, and if there's anything anyone could say, it's that he could have presented it better. But aside from his point, he wasn't belittling him. He was just simply saying look, I did play. That is the player mentality. One way or another, if you're in a well coach, which the eagles are, they're, uh, I mean, I guess they're coached all right, but like, uh, a well-ran organization top to bottom. That's the mentality. It's hey, hey, let's stack Ws. You know, let's Jameis, winston, these things, let's eat them, let's eat Ws. And the Eagles have done that. They have lost one game since week four of last year, since week five of last year, which maybe we'll get to once we get to the picks, maybe that's a hint to what I'm going to do.
Speaker 1:But you know, we'll see. We'll see about the picks. Maybe that's a hint to what I'm going to do.
Speaker 2:We'll see. We'll see about that. Let's see, man, we've got 30 minutes to punch through a lot of stuff. I'll try to keep us on top 10 minutes on Young Thug.
Speaker 1:Man, we can probably do 10, him, 5, WNBA, and then we can fill out the rest.
Speaker 2:All right, betts. So I mean you put it in here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, King Kwan Did it answer more.
Speaker 2:You got more questions. You know what. You are steering this show. Let me just be a passenger, princess no.
Speaker 1:And let you go. Don't call it that, I'm sorry what. Don't call it that, I'm sorry what, but I don't know if you did get to finish that. I know when we spoke you weren't done with it yet, but you still saw a good majority of it. Obviously it's turned into a walking meme on Instagram, all social media platforms and, in general, if you look at somebody like Young Thug us being Georgians, and certainly in Atlanta, no matter what, during that period where he did become Young Thug, where the world was introduced to him, we were there. I know you had a quick story and we'll let you tell it quickly on it, but in general, in terms of you meeting him, you got to meet him.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, back in 20-.
Speaker 1:But that gets back to his part, to to everything that he talked about in the interview, because he talked about what type of person he is and I know that you had, you had no issues with him and it was somebody. It was a producer instead, somebody he was putting on. But the thing is, is this my biggest takeaways from it was that I think he was telling the truth. I do, and maybe he wasn't, but I think he that. I think he was telling the truth I do, and maybe he wasn't, but I think he was. I think he was telling the truth. He's not hell, he's your age, he's, I mean, we're all basically around the same age. So for me, I looked at it as looking at a peer and a peer talking about something. I know nothing about street life in Atlanta. I've seen a lot of street shit, especially living over here, and just kind of the way that people interact and this is kind of it's not his neighborhood, but it's a rival. These are the neighborhoods and so when I think about everything that he said, I believe them. I believe everything that Thug said for the most part.
Speaker 1:Um, I understood both sides. I understood both sides. I understand why donna did what he did. But I also understand why thug feels the way that he feels, based on everything he put in the interview. And I questioned why big bank got the interview and I was wrong. That was the perfect person to do this interview a old school street dude from atlanta that was. He was very even kill throughout the whole thing shout outs to big bank because I think that literally there was not a better person to do it than him. Um, he could, thug, could have went on button or he could have went anywhere and did it right, like in reality, because everybody would have wanted it now keep it homegrown and and put I had never. I didn't even know big bank had a. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1:So you're out the loop, man you gotta catch up I am, I, I am, I am. I'm not a social media person, but point being, it was great. It was great. I thought that it was a great interview. It felt very raw, authentic. They clearly didn't cut. I don't think they cut anything out. It was three hours long. It was great. I enjoyed it. I thought that it answered questions.
Speaker 2:I thought that it answered questions. But my question for you, based on what you saw, were there more answers to questions or more questions that need an answer? I think he answered a lot of questions and I left conflicted. So I have more questions only because I received more answers. So for one, I want to just give a big shout out to Big Bank for doing an amazing interview. The way that he asked his questions, the way that he humanized Thug, the way he also held him accountable, it was just, it was amazing.
Speaker 2:And as somebody who is invested in seeing Atlanta be great and a guy who comes from the street but also has removed himself from that lifestyle but he understands it, he respects it, but he but he, by all accounts, he's not moving that way I go hell of a job because when I listen to interviews, I go could I have done a better interview than this person? And I go there's no way in hell I could, I could have that type of conversation with thug because I'm so far removed from that lifestyle and understanding Atlanta in that way. So, like you, like Joe Buttonham said today, I was listening to him Shout out to bank for doing the interview and shout out to people doing regional interviews. There's a reason why you should go as an artist, you should go, sit down with people who know you and love you actually love you not want to cloud off of you, but know you and love you who will talk to you but then also hold you accountable for your BS. But my biggest conflict came just hearing how he grew up and hearing how he grew up and how he responded to his trauma and how that manifested itself today.
Speaker 2:You know, because he talked about being a giver but also not valuing life. You know, fuck it, we get locked up in life. We get life. That's the game. No, no, you have more to live for. Life is more valuable than that. I understand your brother was willing to take life because somebody said they were going to rob him and he ended up losing his life for trying to take those people's lives, because a couple thousand dollars are worth of is worth a life. Right. Then you, you come, you ascend from the streets, you build a record label, you, you build a rap career, you, you, you I mean you got gonna have a hotter artist than you are and you are a top tier artist who's done a song with what phil collins?
Speaker 1:no, he did it with uh that other one. No, he did it with uh uh, john l, john l john, sorry you've done a song with elton john.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, like you've offended from this street life. But because of how you were raised and your experiences your daddy having 15 kids, your mama having 11 kids, y'all being in a house together there's not enough love for you to receive the proper amount, there's not enough time to give you the proper guidance, there's too many distractions going on so you can't be focused on everything you should be focused on and your parents can't be focused on you the way that they should. And it helps you understand the person.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:But when you still disagree with the person and you hear him say I didn't realize I was fucked up, this should happen. It's like, dang bro, You're delusional, and not even like you're a stupid idiot and like I'm not judging you for being delusional because you've been so successful living this crazy, abnormal way of life. That's probably not too crazy and abnormal to people who come from that.
Speaker 1:Yeah that.
Speaker 2:it's like being told domestic violence is wrong your whole life, but watching your mom and daddy fight and stay together and love each other.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it can be a selling trauma, for sure.
Speaker 2:It normalizes it. So all of it was just a lot. And the one thing I didn't like I didn't like in the gunner conversation when he talked about how he gave gun to this. He didn't take this money, he helped pay for Gunna Mama's house. He bought the car, all of that, and he let Gunna present it. Well, if you did that, because you love Gunna, you wouldn't.
Speaker 1:It didn't need to be brought up right then and there either.
Speaker 2:You'd never bring it up One way or another.
Speaker 2:Even if you feel betrayed by Gunna because, again, you haven't talked to gunner, you don't understand gunner's understanding and I don't know what their true relationship was. I don't know what gunner's street life was like. I don't know what fuck what he said. What did he? Walk day to day around these guys who were doing street stuff? Now, was he the guy who may so, who may like, smoke some weed, throw a little weed, kept a pistol on him? But was he really making plays? Was he really a stepper? Was he really flipping packs? Was he really kicking does? It's a little bit different.
Speaker 2:So when you say, yeah, but what Gunnar said could have put me behind bars for the rest of my life, hey, what you did could have put him behind bars for the rest of his life, just by being associated with you. Yeah, you put him on. Yeah, you put millions in his pocket. But just because you put me on, you put millions in my pocket, doesn't mean I owe you my life for things that you did, that I wasn't involved with, that I didn't consent to. You consented to put money into me to. You can send it to put money into me, whether you wanted to see me grow because you loved it, or you wanted to add validation to your record label, or you wanted to get the money back because I'm profitable, you still benefited from what we did here, so I shouldn't have to put my life on the line when I'm not living that way.
Speaker 2:And I'm so tired of these street podcasts and this is why I think we're so important here is y'all want to knock a nigga for ratting, but you don't knock him for being a criminal. Well, we come from these environments and this, and that Yo have a song with Elton John. You ain't got to kill shit. You ain't got to entertain shit. You ain't leave Atlanta, move to Hollywood, get out the streets. If the people around you don't want to get out the streets, cut them off. If you cut them off, they can't get you in the hidden hills.
Speaker 1:And this is completely off topic from the perspective of what you're talking about, but it's on base with, uh, the regional talk, what you were talking about and it's only because I meant to bring this up earlier and I'll be very quickly, but it was sent into our group chat about bleacher report and how who was on the hot seat and stuff raheeem his seat's warm, apparently, but this was the write-up for him. Morris did double Atlanta's win total in 2024.
Speaker 2:I don't even have to read the rest, and there's another error in there.
Speaker 1:But the point is, is that who the fuck wrote this? Somebody that doesn't watch the team? Somebody that didn't even do enough research to realize that the Falcons won one more?
Speaker 2:game. It was 7-10 and 8-9. What the fuck is he talking?
Speaker 1:about and he could get some leeway based on the fact that he's working with the rookie quarterback in a defensive transition, but any sort of backward step could cost him his job, considering the offensive talent on the roster. The only thing that was true was that last sentence. Everything else was false because that's somebody that doesn't pay attention. But these are who we have as national media people, which is why it's good that there was somebody like Big Bank in order to fucking do the interview, and that, I guess, is my point out of all of that. But I agree with what you're saying. Why do we? Why is it that snitching culture is?
Speaker 2:It's worse to be a snitch than to be a killer.
Speaker 1:That's weird.
Speaker 2:We praise Boosie but hate Charleston White.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's true. Hey, Point Guard, you want to get us to our next topic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't see why not. The WNBA playoffs are almost here and our studs are, you know, right now currently battling to get the second seed. They look like they are going to win. They're up 12. I mean, anything can happen, right? That's the point. It's not on cable the second seed. They look like they are going to win.
Speaker 2:They're up 12. Anything can happen, right, that's the point.
Speaker 1:It's not on cable by the way, not on cable, you know that it would be.
Speaker 2:You ask for more money, but you can't even get on cable for an important game for your playoff seeding.
Speaker 1:Maybe that's the way. That's just what did. Marlon Wayans said this in Above the Room. He said when Tupac Birdie Birdie is the character when he pumped him, what's his fucking name he came up to him and he basically was just like hey man, what's up with that? He's like man. He basically was just like hey man, what's up with that? He's like man. That's just Birdie being Birdie, and maybe that's just what the WNBA is. That's just the W being the W. Right, but overall, fascinating season for them and just in general, the Aces look like they were dead in water and they're on their way to 17 straight wins to close out the season and possibly get the two seed. I guess we'll see tomorrow, but, um, yeah, based on all the w that you've watched this season I hate that we don't have wayne on it. We'll probably get him maybe for the next show so that we can get uh, the w and wayne's debut on was winning WWW, our WWW. It's actually a fourth W.
Speaker 2:Who do we like, Bro? There's only one story to talk about in the W right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but who do you still? Who do you like It'll be an off-season matter?
Speaker 2:We'll talk about it just because it's breaking news. There is only one topic in the W that we can talk about. That would do numbers on TikTok. But who do I like? Honestly, I like Vegas, if they can stay hot. I don't know if they're going to flame out because they've been so hot for so long. I'm worried about Minnesota because the thesis has been out a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they've been winning without her too.
Speaker 2:I know, but I don't think they can win a championship without her.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And if they win a championship without her, she's not an MVP. I think Asia's the MVP this year.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:I was looking at, I was watching the game the other night and they were putting up MVP stuff. They put up Nafisa, they put up Shorty from Phoenix, alyssa Thomas.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So they had Nafisa's stats, all of that stuff they had not. Angel, Jesus Christ, I am so sorry, Forgive me, that's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. That was ridiculous. But they put up Asia stats and they put Alyssa Thomas Leads the league record triple-double seven and I go. Is she going to get the Russ MVP? Nigga Maybe. Well is Angel going to get traded? Traded?
Speaker 1:that's the real question does angel reese get traded? Yeah, she's clearly acting like a malcontent, or at least that's the way that it's being portrayed, and she said it out of her own mouth, I mean. So I guess that's it's not like that was a quote. She said it Like you know, there's audio of it, but sure she'll get traded, but where would she go? I mean there's what? 12? Now there's 13 teams in the league right or 14. I'm sorry for not remembering but I know it was like 12.
Speaker 1:So maybe it's 13. With the Valkyries joining this year. They're a brand-new team. Maybe that would be a landing spot for them.
Speaker 2:Whitlock says she wants to go to Dallas and team up with Paige. I don't take anything Whitlock says seriously about Angel Reese as far as what she wants in life.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Because I know he has no insight into her circle. He's just making assumptions.
Speaker 1:Well, she came out and said he had no insight either.
Speaker 2:I don't see much of what she says.
Speaker 1:No, that's what he it was on Twitter. Yeah, you're right, it came up on my top.
Speaker 2:I think Angel is going to learn a hard lesson Although ESPN owns Anscape, you should care about what ESPN posts about you and not what Anscape posts about you. You should care more about Bleacher Report than the Shade Room. You should care more about being producing on the basketball field, on the basketball court, than producing your podcast. And I'm saying that not to to say she should have her off-field ventures. She should.
Speaker 2:I support her off-field ventures yeah but what I think is that the people that angel listens to come from a supportive side, that is not the basketball side, and she is marketable as hell. You can put her in Fashion Nova, you can put her in Reebok, you can throw in a commercial. The baddies love her, all of that. But without being a basketball player, none of that stuff exists. Keep the main thing, the main thing.
Speaker 2:She's a nice-looking girl, but she's not IG model bad, she's the fine basketball player, the basketball player. You got to be a basketball player. You ain't like old girl you was with with Jalen Brown in Vegas. No, no, no, she's fine and I found out she played basketball. She's different breed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you are the fine basketball player. So if you lose basketball, I don't know if all this other stuff exists for you to continue living this life you want to, unless you're then gonna just be a, a plus one. That's different. You can still get your bags there, you can still get some deals, but you're not going to get the notoriety. You're not going to have the shoe deal like. You're not going to get a, a fashion shoe, like a light, like you know, I mean yeah listen to lebron.
Speaker 2:Like players want to talk about building businesses outside of basketball. Lebron has done it better than anybody Top tier. He made basketball the main thing. Kevin Durant built another nice empire outside of basketball Guess what he's best at. Guess what he's best known for Basketball. Steph Curry got a lot of stuff going outside of basketball making a lot of money. That's what he's known for, Basketball.
Speaker 1:It's fucking crazy that a basketball player is being known for playing basketball. Well, but speaking of basketball, we did have the basketball hall and the Hall of Fame, the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame, yep, and obviously the marquee guys were Carmelo, dwight Howard, the O-8, and Moore. Of course, I forgot who else was on the list, but shout out to Maya Moore obviously, sue Burt. Oh, sue Burt went in. Okay, well then, yeah, sue Burt as well.
Speaker 1:I think Danny Crawford the referee Maya Moore, though just shout out to her because she's a Georgia product, arguably because she was playing while we were in high school but, arguably, you could argue, if she didn't end her career early. Maybe the best women's basketball player we've ever seen. She won three titles at least with Minnesota. A couple MVPs all-star every year she's on all the 25th anniversary, she's all of it.
Speaker 2:And she's great at Connecticut. Let's get to the meat and potatoes. You know what we're here for why not?
Speaker 1:But you got to give the Georgia girl a shout-out. Give the Georgia boy a shout-out too Dwight Howard, who should have been on the All-NBA 75 team.
Speaker 2:That's where I kind of wanted to go real quick on this. Congratulations to the Hall of Famers. Nice little handoff there. Huh, yeah, you know, I saw this side-by-side of Dwight and Mello's career achievements and I think I sent it to you on Saturday.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:I just started going down the line and I said, outside of a scoring title, dwight eclipses Melo in everything. Dwight led a team to the finals. Dwight was an integral part to the Lakers finally winning a championship and, although his prime did not extend as long as we expected it to and go the way that it did, he was good in Houston. He wasn't bad in Atlanta, washington or Charlotte. It was just a bad basketball situation, yeah. And then you saw what he did for the Lakers the Lakers haven't beat Denver since Dwight left the building. Basketball situation yeah. And then you saw what he did for the Lakers the Lakers haven't beat Denver since Dwight left the building.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:And I just go wow, melo has all 75 over Dwight Howard. I know we talked about Dame Lillard and AD and all of that stuff, but Melo should be on that chopping block, like Melo should be in that conversation of guys who Dwight Howard should have clearly and obviously made top 75 over.
Speaker 1:I'm not mad at Mello over Dane.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not saying that Mello does not deserve to be on the all 75. I say that he deserves because Dwight didn't make it and he made it. Melo deserves to be in that conversation of people that Dwight could have been over Exactly, but because Melo has a name and a reputation and he's a part of the banana boat. You know, he's like the odd one, the only one who hadn't been to the finals.
Speaker 1:Well, hey, he got two jackets Saturday. Who Dwight no? Well, they both did yeah well, you know, dwight plays for two teams, allegedly. Yeah, no, I'm saying, but Melo too, I'm saying they both got. I guess I forgot Dwight's on the 018, too, but yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Quick Melo question for you, because we got to get out of here quick. Does Mello deserve a statue? No, does he deserve to have a jersey retired?
Speaker 1:Because Bernard King has one with the Knicks and he deserves one too.
Speaker 2:Mello didn't get past the second round. Bernard King didn't win anything with the Knicks, so yeah, he deserves one too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, melo didn't get past the second round. Bernard King didn't win anything with the Knicks in the 80s either. Fair enough, that's why he gets one, in my opinion.
Speaker 2:Okay, fair enough, you want to get to the picks now and then, if we have any filler time after that, we'll fill with the other shit that we didn't get to. Yeah, we can get to a new segment. Possibly we'll see. But yeah, I'm ready for college. Uh, six pack. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for parlay peas.
Speaker 1:College football sticks you're really killing this, this micher thing, especially with that mic. But regardless, yeah, we did okay in college football. We were 4-2 last week, but I'll quickly go through these because these most likely won't get posted. But we did pretty well in college and I'll get to the NFL. All right, we'll start off. We got Vandy at South Carolina. I really like over 48-and-a-half. Vandy scores the ball really well. Diego Pavia dog Lenore Sellers possibly can catapult to number one pick. I like over 48 and Vandy at South Carolina.
Speaker 1:Next we got Utah at Wyoming. Wyoming struggled to beat Akron. Akron might be one of the worst teams in FBS. Yeah, we're going to take Utah minus 23 and a half and they're just so great defensively as well. Next we got New Mexico at UCLA. Finally, nico Iamalaba should most definitely cover this spread. Let's take UCLA minus 15 and a half here. Next we got Oregon at Northwestern Oregon, minus 27 and a half. They beat the shit out of Oklahoma State. They're going to do the Oregon at Northwestern Oregon minus 27.5. They beat the shit out of Oklahoma State. They're going to do the same to Northwestern.
Speaker 1:Next we got South Florida at Miami. This game is spicy and they're setting the line at the exact same line. I know Florida's not very good, clearly, because they lost straight up, but South Florida, they got something to say. So we're going to go ahead and take South Florida, plus 17.5 at Miami, and then finally, well, go Bulls, but now it's for you. It's Rocky Top time. We got Georgia at Tennessee. Tennessee's top two corners are not going to be playing and even though Georgia didn't look great against Austin Peay, georgia should win this game. So we're going to take Georgia money line. We didn't hear him all because he was fixing something, but over 40.5, vandy South Carolina, utah minus 23.5, ucla minus 15.5,.
Speaker 2:Oregon minus 27.5,. South Florida plus 17.5, Georgia.
Speaker 1:Moneyline. Thanks, man. And just so you know, I was grabbing a pen to write the picks down. No, absolutely, it's all good, but again.
Speaker 2:I don't think, unless you're going to use it in at least three. I wrote my potentials down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Okay, Good deal, Good deal, All right, Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for Parley Pease. Nfl 6. 666. Anyone that follows these picks knows how bad last week was. I've never done that before, but regardless, we will get into it and we're going to go 6-0 this week instead. So we got Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Houston Texans I like over 42-1⁄2. I know that we took the over last week with that Texans game. Tampa's going to score some points and the Texans really don't have a choice but to this week Over 42.5 on Monday night.
Speaker 1:Next we got the Carolina Panthers at the Arizona Cardinals. Man, look, the Panthers fucking suck, and I'm just going to keep it real, they're garbage. We're going to take the Cardinals to get off to that 2-0 start, 2-0 start minus 6.5 on the Cardinals. Next we got the Seattle Seahawks at the Pittsburgh Steelers. A little DK Metcalf revenge, and I like the idea of Rodgers being at home. Let's take the Steelers on the money line. Next we got the 49ers at the Saints.
Speaker 1:It just came out not too long ago Brock Purdy's not playing, so this line could change. But under 44. We've got to take under 44 in this game. Future offenses McCaffrey's going to get 30 carries or he might not get 30, but they're going to run the ball 30 plus top. Next we got the Chargers at the Raiders Another Monday night game. I was impressed with what I saw at the Chargers. We're going to take the Chargers on the money line. And then, finally, we got the Jaguars at the Bengals. At plus odds, Give me the Bengals minus three and a half. I think the offense had a gut check last week. Jaguars defense not nearly as good. This one's exposed. Bengals minus three and a half.
Speaker 2:All righty, we've got Tampa Bay at Houston over 42 and a half. We've got the Cards minus six and a half.
Speaker 1:We've got the Steelards minus six and a half.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh, we've got the Steelers on the money.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:We got 49ers at Saints under 44.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:We got Chargers on the money.
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:And we got the Bengals minus three and a half.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 2:You got yourself a winning ticket.
Speaker 1:You like it, then I'll if you like it, then I'll love it, and when you love it, that means it's time for Lee's 3. Lee's 3., lee's 3. You don't slow down. New Kung Fu, kitty Whoa.
Speaker 2:Alright. So I'm going to do something a little bit different than normal. I'm going to take something a little bit different than normal. I'm going to take two college and one pro. Wow, that Oregon minus 27 and a half. I just liked it so much, man. I listened to Dan's pregame speech and I said you know what I like this guy and I didn't like when he did it to Chicago or Colorado, but I like this guy, but anyways, let me push. And then I got to take UGA. I'm sorry I got to. I don't believe in what we got going on at Tennessee. I may be an alum, but I'm a Georgia fan and 49ers and Saints under 44. Mack Jones. I don't believe in it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that line is probably going to change too, because, literally, I took a screenshot of this yesterday.
Speaker 2:Hey, we've got a minute if you want to get off the last topic, though.
Speaker 1:Well, we got something new here on the show, guys, and it's called AC Lee and Parley Pete got something to say, shays of Andre 3000 at the 95 VMAs and I got something to say Can we stop with the killings? And this is not to just kind of shed light on a topic we didn't really touch, but the reality of it is is this People can hate that dude for what he spews and what he says, and maybe he did have it coming to him. He still had a family and it's unfortunate that he got killed. I had never heard of him until today, because I don't look at that stuff and that stuff doesn't pop up on my timeline.
Speaker 2:But yeah, that's kind of what I have to say. Rest in peace to Charlie Kirk, rest in peace to anybody who passed away Prayers for the families, and the one thing I'll say is hey, man, when public figures die, if it's not positive, keep it to yourself, keep it to your group text, because there are people out here who really love and care about these people and they deserve to not have to deal with people heckling just because of their political beliefs. Hope you guys enjoyed the show, hope you're washed and I hope you're winning AC Lee out.
Speaker 1:Salutations good people.
